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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:28 AM Jun 2015

“PBS pulls ads from Harper’s Magazine after critical essay,” by PBS's own Bill Moyers

That “critical essay” had PBS’s own Bill Moyers say, “Our Washington coverage, by design or not, serves up ‘news’ the way the butler serves tea on Downton Abbey, so as not to disturb the master class.” He knows well the master class; it’s as small as Downton Abbey, but vastly more powerful



Eric Zuesse

1: The ugly realities are covered up, not covered; here’s an example of what you don’t see in the regime’s media about the people whom Americans’ tax dollars are bombing and killing:

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2: The great investigative journalist John Pilger discusses the systematic truth-suppression:

http://johnpilger.com/articles/war-by-media-and-the-triumph-of-propaganda

3: The great investigative journalist Robert Parry’s latest take-down of America’s press is here:

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/02/neocon-fugitive-given-ukraine-province/

4: As usual, a great journalist gets fired for being too honest:

http://yournewswire.com/cnn-journalist-governments-pay-us-to-fake-stories-shocking-expose/

CONCLUSION:

A shared feature of all of those news-reports, about news-suppression in the United States, is: they all concern foreign affairs; not a one of them concerns domestic matters, such as, for example, the Wall Street bailouts — even though those issues are also highly sanitized in the U.S. press. What the U.S. regime is doing abroad is even more horrible than that. As you can see from the above few examples: it’s not reportable (except by a very few of the small American news-media and on some foreign news-media that are independent of U.S. control).

In other words: U.S. ‘news’ media are actually propaganda-media.....................................................................



http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/06/western-news-media-as-tyrannys-propagandists-hiding-reality.html
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“PBS pulls ads from Harper’s Magazine after critical essay,” by PBS's own Bill Moyers (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 OP
Let's talk about it. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #1
Let's give them something to talk about. Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #2
I think synchronicities are more frequent in times of great tension. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #3
If you like bonnie...... this concert is Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #7
Bill Moyers is a Demigod. FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #4
You said it!!! n/t zentrum Jun 2015 #15
What do you mean "almost"? Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #18
PBS brought us Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered and the Wall Street Journal Editorial Report N/T Chathamization Jun 2015 #5
Actually the article is much more than the PBS shit Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #6
I always check primary sources when I can. For instance, if you recall the fake IRS scandal, reading Chathamization Jun 2015 #8
"... the elected official who asked for the investigation ..." aggiesal Jun 2015 #22
Here you go. Looking at it now, it's actually 21 pages (not including the appendices) Chathamization Jun 2015 #23
Moyers is a national treasure. Post-Dimson PBS has befouled itself by merrily Jun 2015 #9
News served up like the butler serving tea on Downton Abbey, so as not to disturb the master class. Octafish Jun 2015 #10
Yes, the MSM did pretty good up until then and with the Vietnam War (for instance the naked girl jwirr Jun 2015 #19
Well, at least you'll always have RT snooper2 Jun 2015 #11
saving to read later. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #12
Yeah the M$M has no intention of actually reporting all news, just what is filtered Rex Jun 2015 #13
Bill Moyers is a national treasure.. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #14
It's time everyone got this.. sendero Jun 2015 #16
RW memes from PBS & NPR are much more damaging than from Fox "News" Faryn Balyncd Jun 2015 #17
Indeed. The corporations stand up the patsy and knock them down over and over. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #20
Here is the article reference in the OP mrdmk Jun 2015 #21
Moving past the propaganda, ManiacJoe Jun 2015 #24
... Scuba Jun 2015 #25
Whatever you do Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #26
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Until we acknowledge this................. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #27
thanks for this rurallib Jun 2015 #28

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
2. Let's give them something to talk about.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:52 AM
Jun 2015

strange I was listening to that song when you wrote that
you must be NSA. Second song in the concert

July 11–19, 1995 in Oakland, CA


Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. I think synchronicities are more frequent in times of great tension.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jun 2015

Kinda like a piezoelectric crystal generating a current (or whatever they do) under stress.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
4. Bill Moyers is a Demigod.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:09 AM
Jun 2015

Thanks for posting this, especially the Gdansk video. Interesting how the US applauds Russia for helping disarm Assad, for making the Iran deal work, and fighting Islamist radicals, but is attacked so dishonestly on Ukraine. It's almost as if there are more than one power faction in the Federal government, each conducting mutually exclusive foreign policies.

Ford_Prefect

(7,893 posts)
18. What do you mean "almost"?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jun 2015
It's almost as if there are more than one power faction in the Federal government, each conducting mutually exclusive foreign policies.


The MIC has one set of goals, the oil & business interests have another, and what remains of the diplomatic corps at State Department has another set altogether. Not to mention all the Neo-Con stay-behind agents left over from Bush/Cheney at CIA, State and the Pentagon. You can't tell the players without a score card and decoder ring.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
6. Actually the article is much more than the PBS shit
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jun 2015

I just thought that headline would grab more attention for those to read the rest

BILL MOYERS HAS NEVER WON THE PRESIDENTIAL FREEDOM AWARD LIKE OBAMA GAVE GWH BUSH.....

......even though he showed the nation the truth for all these years.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
8. I always check primary sources when I can. For instance, if you recall the fake IRS scandal, reading
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:44 AM
Jun 2015

the report clearly showed that the IRS wasn't targeting conservatives - multiple groups were being investigated, and the report stated that only conservative groups were looked at because the elected official who asked for the investigation only asked that the treatment of conservative groups was looked at. That was in the report, which was only 18 pages long. Every news organization missed that, every liberal news outlet missed that, every blogger missed that. When it was pointed out on this board, most people dismissed it because it wasn't being reported in the news - even though it was directly from the report the news was based on.

(some groups managed to figure this out a few weeks later; they could have figured it out at the start by reading the 18 page report instead of just pontificating on it)

Fall of Ramadi - the media has recently gone nuts about that, no? But if you take a look at this map from The Economist a year ago, you'll see they already had Ramadi colored in as ISIS territory. Oh, if you read the side blurb it's because that's territory where controlled by ISIS, contested, or with some ISIS presence. Of course you've seen the reaction people have to that map (posts here are just one example) - "my god, ISIS is sweeping through the country and is about to surround Baghdad for the killing blow!"

Another favorite in the media is "Militant group is only a 2 hours drive from the capital of the country!"-type reporting. The usually neglect to mention that a two hours drive is the middle of the desert or the middle of a contested region controlled by a different sect. Mali and Irbil were too good example of this.

I've tried to spread the word when I can, but honestly, people don't seem to be that interested in narratives that differ from the mainstream news - even though the mainstream news has been shown to be terrible time and time again. When I throw stuff up on a blog, posts of the type "You'll never guess what Santorum said!" with three sentences got a ton more votes that well researched debunking of false news narratives. You can see the same here - informative posts sink quickly, unsubstantiated attacks ("Some DUers seem happy to support Nazis if that means blah blah blah&quot get to 300+ posts pretty quickly.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
22. "... the elected official who asked for the investigation ..."
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jun 2015

That would be Darrell Issa.
Issa spelled backwards is Ass-I

No better fitting name for the ass that is Issa.

Link to the 18-page report, please.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
23. Here you go. Looking at it now, it's actually 21 pages (not including the appendices)
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jun 2015
Here. Including the appendices it's 48, but you can get the relevant information just from the 21-page report. I'll repost what I said at the time for anyone who would like a TLDR version:

From the report:

According to the Director, Rulings and Agreements, the fact that the team of specialists worked applications that did not involve the Tea Party, Patriots, or 9/12 groups demonstrated that the IRS was not politically biased in its identification of applications for processing by the team of specialists.


Note: it's not just that they worked on applications not involving those groups, it's that the majority of their applications didn't involve those groups. But this is even more interesting:

Based on our review of other BOLO listing criteria, the use of organization names on the BOLO listing is not unique to potential political cases.16


So there were other groups included as well. But they don't list them...hey, what's footnote 16?

16 We did not review the use of other named organizations on the BOLO listing to determine if their use was appropriate.


Why not? Why did they only look to see whether or not Tea Party groups were targeted?

Now if we look back to see why they started this investigation: "TIGTA initiated this audit based on concerns expressed by members of Congress." Ah, so that's why they only looked at whether or not the Tea Party groups were treated inappropriately!


Keep in mind that this was the report that started the whole "the IRS is targeting conservative groups!" crazyness. If anyone had bothered to read the primary information, which was a short 21-page report, it would have been clear that the report was only looking at groups with names like Tea Party or 9/12 because that's what they were asked about, and they didn't bother to check what was going on with other groups who were flagged. Look at figure 4 on page 8 to see that the majority of the political organizations that were to be processed by specialists did not have the conservative names the investigation was investigating treatment of (Tea Party, Patriots, 9/12).

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. Moyers is a national treasure. Post-Dimson PBS has befouled itself by
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jun 2015

retaliating against the telling of truth. It has lost its way.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. News served up like the butler serving tea on Downton Abbey, so as not to disturb the master class.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jun 2015

Pretty much says it all since Nov. 22, 1963.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. Yes, the MSM did pretty good up until then and with the Vietnam War (for instance the naked girl
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jun 2015

running from the napalm attack).

But since then it is almost all about controlling the truth in order to protect the PTB. Once the Vietnam War was over the MSM and the MIC decided that there would be no more real stories from the front. They decided that is what turned all of us dirty hippies against the war so they would not let us know about them anymore

I would like to think that there are still sources that are telling us as much truth as they dare (Bill Moyer, Keith O, etc.). But the corporations own the MSM and Cable. People like Ed Schultz and Rachel who want to tell us the truth are not allowed to and if they do they are fired.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Yeah the M$M has no intention of actually reporting all news, just what is filtered
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jun 2015

by their corporate masters. This has given rise to the garbage pundit and the fall of investigative journalism.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
16. It's time everyone got this..
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jun 2015

... through their heads. The media is bought and sold just like our politicians. They are not remotely interested in telling you anything you really should know.

Thank gosh for the internet or there would be no hope at all.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
17. RW memes from PBS & NPR are much more damaging than from Fox "News"
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jun 2015



The corrupted state of the media is the right wings biggest weapon.

And for them to have RW memes coming from the sources they falsely label as "left" is perhaps their greatest accomplishment.









raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
20. Indeed. The corporations stand up the patsy and knock them down over and over.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:53 PM
Jun 2015

All for the bemusement of the ignorant and the indebted. Forever playing Colmes to shareholder financed Hannity's.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
21. Here is the article reference in the OP
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jun 2015


PBS Self-Destructs


And what it means for viewers like you

By Eugenia Williamson


Last October, I watched as a passel of activists convened in front of WGBH, Boston’s public-television station. There were about three dozen of them on the concrete forecourt, many in matching T-shirts layered against the chill, but one middle-aged man wore a ministerial robe and clerical collar. Another activist of uncertain gender waved at passersby from the innards of an Elmo costume, which looked as though it had made one too many trips to the dry cleaners. WGBH employees, as well as cameramen and reporters on hand to cover the protest, weaved through the crowd.

The grassroots climate-change group Forecast the Facts had organized the rally as an attempt to expel David Koch from the station’s board of trustees. The members had collected and printed out 120,000 digital signatures and placed them in boxes, which they planned to present at that afternoon’s board meeting. (The trustees had already agreed to take delivery.) In the interim, they made brief speeches, mostly for the benefit of the reporters, since the studio’s location overlooking the Massachusetts Turnpike precluded much in the way of foot traffic.

(the rest of the article is behind a pay wall)

The bold is my highlighting of the story

link: http://harpers.org/archive/2014/10/pbs-self-destructs/



PBS pulls ads from Harper’s Magazine after critical essay Piece argues public broadcaster has fallen under the sway of political influence and outside money


After a sales representative at Harper’s Magazine received a phone call on September 18 from a disgruntled advertiser, the subject of a critical story printed the week before, Publisher John R. MacArthur wasn’t surprised that it decided to pull ads from subsequent issues. But he was shocked by who that advertiser was: PBS, the public broadcaster famous for Big Bird and Ken Burns’ epic historical documentaries.



“Our readers are their viewers, which is why we thought it was an important story,” MacArthur said, referring to an essay in the October issue, “PBS Self-Destructs,” which argues that corporate and political influence increasingly cloud the network’s programming. “We’re part of the same family. So to have done such a petty thing does make me suspicious.”

Pulling advertisements is an age-old tactic for businesses facing media criticism to seek retribution. But in the case of PBS, which exists in part as a way to limit commercial influence on educational television, doing so just feeds into writer Eugenia Williamson’s thesis — that the idealistic, Great Society-era initiative often behaves more like a corporate or political organism. [Disclosure: Williamson occasionally writes for CJR, too.] The broadcaster distributed a peculiarly labeled list of “talking points,” first obtained by Current.org, for station managers to respond to the criticism. And it will publish a letter to the editor in the November issue of Harper’s, which will not feature any PBS ads.

PBS Distribution, the network’s marketing subsidiary sometimes known as PBSd, ran a full-page spot hawking box sets of Burns’ latest saga, The Roosevelts: An Intimate History, in the September issue of the magazine. But after the October edition was delivered to subscribers and posted online on September 11, MacArthur said, PBSd pulled ads from the magazine’s November and December issues. Citing an insertion order for the pair of ads, the publisher added that PBSd would have paid $6,000 for the former and nothing for the latter — part of a buy two, get one free deal.

More at the link: http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/pbs_pulls_ads_from_harpers_mag.php?page=all

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
24. Moving past the propaganda,
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jun 2015

looking at the video, why was that house chosen for shelling and why is that info not in the video?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
25. ...
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:17 AM
Jun 2015
The heaviest restriction upon the freedom of public opinion is not the official censorchip of the press, but the unofficial censorship by a press which exists not so much to express opinion as to manufacture it. ~ Dorothy Sayers

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
26. Whatever you do
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:21 AM
Jun 2015

Don't link to RT I'm told and over they are a
State propaganda outfit, unlike our "free" and "unbiased" press.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
27. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Until we acknowledge this.................
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:58 AM
Jun 2015

we are truly fucked as a nation.

The United States media has become what they accused the Soviet Union media of being back in the day. Have you no shame?

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