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Has anyone here been to Paris lately? (Original Post) historian Jun 2015 OP
Chartier, Montmartre ... ucrdem Jun 2015 #1
Oh, yes. Chartier aussi (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #3
just posted this one as well - did not see your post DrDan Jun 2015 #16
I'll be there in eleven days. Not that I'm counting or anything. Recursion Jun 2015 #2
+ un million ucrdem Jun 2015 #4
I'm headed to France in a few weeks. Paka Jun 2015 #9
thanks historian Jun 2015 #12
I'm in Paris right now! DFW Jun 2015 #5
I want your job!! historian Jun 2015 #13
I've been searching for that Parisian rudeness for decades. DFW Jun 2015 #14
yes i know the feeliing historian Jun 2015 #17
On intercontinental flights, you still get more than peanuts. DFW Jun 2015 #19
well historian Jun 2015 #21
That definitely makes it less fun. DFW Jun 2015 #22
Google. Seriously. Most of the the big name in travel are online now, along with merrily Jun 2015 #6
A great up-to-date site to check out BlueMTexpat Jun 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2015 #8
Outiside of tourist areas Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #10
And the biggest secret tip of all DFW Jun 2015 #11
Chez Chartier DrDan Jun 2015 #15
There last year. DCBob Jun 2015 #18
There's a GREAT Olive Garden right off the Place de La Concorde. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #20
Oui. mylye2222 Jun 2015 #23

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
1. Chartier, Montmartre ...
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:11 AM
Jun 2015

Restaurant Chartier

7 RUE DU FAUBOURG MONTMARTRE 75009 PARIS
01 47 70 86 29
email : [email protected]

De 11h30 à 22h sans réservation

http://www.bouillon-chartier.com
..............
Dining room 360:

http://www.bouillon-chartier.com/en/360-tour
...................................
Today's menu:

THURSDAY 04 JUNE 2015
Entree
Avocat sauce crevettes 3.50 €
Celeri remoulade 2.70 €
Oeuf dur mayonnaise 2.20 €
Poireaux vinaigrette 3.50 €
Salade de tomate 1.90 €
Salade d'endives au roquefort 5.50 €
Salade frisee aux lardons 3.60 €
Salade verte melangee 2.20 €
Bloc de foie gras de canard 7.00 €
Jambon de pays saucisse seche 4.00 €
Museau de boeuf vinaigrette 3.80 €
Terrine de campagne 3.80 €
Crevettes roses mayonnaise 3.80 €
Filet de hareng pommes a l'huile 3.80 €
6 escargots 6.60 €
12 escargots 13.20 €

Poisson
Aile de raie beurre aux capres 11.00 €
Bar roti au four graines de fenouil 13.50 €

Plat
Steack hache sauce poivre vert frites 8.70 €
Pave de rumsteack grille frites 11.30 €
Faux filet sauce bordelaise 12.00 €
Pave de rumsteack au poivre frites 11.50 €
Tartare de boeuf assaisonne frites 9.00 €
Poulet fermier roti frites 8.90 €
Andouillette grillee moutarde 5a 11.70 €
Cote de veau normande spaghettis 11.50 €
Roti de veau pommes grenaille 11.20 €
Tete de veau sauce gribiche 11.80 €
Choucroute alsacienne 10.80 €
Confit de canard pommes grenailles 9.80 €
Spaghetts bolognaise 8.70 €
Tripous à la naucelloise maison savy 9.80 €
Faux filet beurre maitre d 'hotel 12.00 €
Cotes d'agneau grillees, frites 11.20 €

Legume
Pommes anglaise 2.50 €
Pommes frites 2.50 €
Pommes grenaille 2.50 €
Spaghettis 2.50 €
Assiette vegetarienne 6.50 €
Champignons a la provencale 2.50 €
Haricots verts frais a l' anglaise 2.50 €

Fromage
Bleu d'auvergne beurre 2.60 €
Camembert 2.60 €
Fromage blanc de campagne 1.90 €
Fromage de chevre 2.60 €
Pont l' eveque 2.60 €

Dessert
Ananas frais 4.00 €
Baba au rhum chantilly 4.60 €
Compote de pommes 2.30 €
Coupe de creme chantilly 2.50 €
Coupe mont blanc creme de marron et chantilly 3.30 €
Creme de marron vanillee 2.80 €
Gateau de semoule au caramel 2.70 €
Pruneaux au vin glace vanille 3.90 €
Chou chantilly 3.10 €
Riz au lait 2.60 €

Glace
Dame blanche meringuee 3.90 €
Peche melba 3.60 €
Peche melba chantilly 4.10 €
Supplement glace vanille 1.50 €
Sorbet du jour 3.90 €
Supplement chantilly 0.50 €
Chou glace vanille, chocolat chaud 4.00 €

VIN DU MOMENT
CEPAGE CABERNET MERLOT
Domaine Gordonne 2014
Les Gravières Rosé
La Bouteille 0,75 Cl - 12,50 € TTC

http://www.restaurant-chartier.com/www/visit/atable.php

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. I'll be there in eleven days. Not that I'm counting or anything.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 04:15 AM
Jun 2015

Last edited Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:24 AM - Edit history (1)

I love:

Benoit on Rue Pernelle near Chatalet
Au Clair de Lune near Etienne Marciel (it's a Moroccan place)
Le Bon Bock on Rue Dancourt in Montmartre (they have this amazing cold roast beef)

The best bar remains La Chope du Chateau Rouge on the Rue de Clignancourt side of Chateau Rouge

I don't know the left bank that well, so if you're going there all I can recommend is Le Square next to Notre Dame de Medaille Miraculeux, or, if you feel like spending the GDP of a small country, Arpege.

Cheap (for some value of "cheap&quot bistros are still to be found in the upper arrondissements. Montmartre is still OK even though it's kind of become Williamsburg or the Mission District.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
9. I'm headed to France in a few weeks.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:03 AM
Jun 2015

Not sure when I'll hit Paris as I'm visiting a friend in the south of France first. Eat out at lunch with the fixed price menus away from the tourist areas and it's not all that expensive, but always great food.

I live in Thailand for the budget, but if I could afford it, I would live in France.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
5. I'm in Paris right now!
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:21 AM
Jun 2015

Last edited Thu Jun 4, 2015, 08:58 AM - Edit history (1)

I'm usually here three times a month for work, and this week, today's my day.

The $!&($&(%§ Euro has gained 3 cents on the Dollar this week alone ($1.135 as opposed to $1.105 at the beginning of the week), but it's still way cheaper than it was last year ($1.35).

You can get a fabulous (I mean like amazing) shish taouk sandwich for €4.50 at the Cedrus at 17-19 Boulevard Montmartre, just south of the Rue Vivienne in the direction of the Opéra. They have full menus of GREAT Lebanese food, too, and they aren't at all expensive by Paris standards. If you like Vietnamese/Chinese fusion, there is a great new place on the Rue Richelieu between the corner of Rue Feydeau and the Rue Saint Marc (with the black décor, not the tan one next door). It is called Le Pont de Sichuan. They have a lunch menu for €12.50 that includes an appetizer, a beverage, and a generous main course (I recommend either the calamars or the spicy chicken). Métro for the first is either Grands Boulevards or Richelieu-Drouot. For the second, either 4 Septembre or Bourse. These are my favorite lunch spots.

If you want to splurge, there is always the "Devant Vous," the best teppan-yaki place in Paris. It's NOT cheap, but it is world class food, and it is also on the Rue Richelieu at Rue Feydeau. Métro Bourse or 4 Septembre.

Of course, a city as big as Paris has ten thousand nice places to eat, but these are ones I know and frequent when I'm here.

**edited to update information:

I had forgotten that the Boulevard Haussmann becomes Boulevard Montmartre above the Rue de Richelieu. FYI, for lunch today, I had 2 shish taouk sandwiches at Cedrus, which are actually more like two medium-sized dürüms. Marinated chicken shish kebabs witha lightly spicy yoghurt sauce, lettuce, tomatoes, and wrapped in a thin pita-like pancake. I could subsist on those things.

historian

(2,475 posts)
13. I want your job!!
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jun 2015

Thanks so much for the info. At least i speak French well so I wont be subject to the usual Parisian rudeness if it still exists.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
14. I've been searching for that Parisian rudeness for decades.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jun 2015

I'm only there once a week, though, and I seem to keep missing it.

By the way, that was yesterday. Today, I'm in Sprout City (otherwise known as Brussels), and I'm about to head for Düsseldorf for a good night's sleep (I hope!!).

I'm not sure you want my job. The pay is great, and I get to determine my own vacation time, but the wear and tear and the mileage are a little much at times. It seemed glamorous when I was 30. Today, less so, although I still wouldn't trade it for anything, and a desk job would have killed me (by boredom) well over a decade ago.

historian

(2,475 posts)
17. yes i know the feeliing
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 06:15 AM
Jun 2015

In my younger days i used to prance around the world going to Afghanistan and other places but nowadays just thinking of boarding a plane makes me ill. They are uncomfortable and i resent having someone throw peanuts at me as if I were a squirrel in a cage! By the way what is it you do if you dont mind me asking?

DFW

(54,330 posts)
19. On intercontinental flights, you still get more than peanuts.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:11 AM
Jun 2015

I have serious knee issues, and a few years ago, I told my superiors that from now on I will be flying business class on overseas flights, or else I take a boat. They were cool with that. After all, this August marks my 40th year with my outfit. Loyalty still counts for something in some parts.

But my daughters often fly back and forth between here and North America, and they seem to survive flying coach just fine.

No, I don't mind your asking.

historian

(2,475 posts)
21. well
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:30 AM
Jun 2015

I'm 68 and have spinal and sciatic problems so you can imagine the pain of sitting in those cramped seats for so long. Still in my day (and you might remember this) one could take a ship anywhere - no need for planes. I went from Australia to England, Haifa to Marseille, Piraeus to Egypt and so on. The ships were inexpensive and fun. I met lots of interesting people and spent the days lazing in the sun or reading. Nowadays it rush rush, frayed nerves and the occasional fight session. It's just awful right now.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
22. That definitely makes it less fun.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:29 AM
Jun 2015

If you can afford it, the seats in Business class are much better. Depends on the airline, of course. British Airways has greatly improved their seats, and the food in the business class lounge at Heathrow 5 is amazing. Practically a full Indian buffet!

Air France's lounges are not as good, but their on board service is, and their seats are good, too. Avoid American (the nationality, not the specific carrier) airlines, as their planes, comfort and service are inferior to the European carriers. And I say this as one who often takes Delta from the States back here, since the only nonstop from the Southern USA (except Florida) to Düsseldorf is the Delta flight out of Atlanta.

I only took a long distance ship once, back in the sixties, from New York to Le Havre and, a year later, back. It was an old converted WWII era converted Italian freighter. It used to cater to students studying abroad. I heard it burned completely several years ago. I learned how to say "don't throw up here!" in Italian and how to pronounce "sjösjuk (seasick)" in Swedish. I was miserable the whole time.
I just get seasick, no way around it. I have had some hairy near-misses with planes (take German Wings between Düsseldorf and Barcelona all the time, e.g.), but I would have gladly traded seven days of agony for a quick demise while I was on that boat.

Price hint on business class travel, by the way: from here (Europe), at least, you can take advantage of passenger poaching wars for a good deal on business class fares if you know where to look. Lufthansa and Air France, for example, fight each other tooth and nail for transatlantic passengers. Lufthansa offers sometimes over a 50% discount of the Air France business class fare if you fly from France to the USA via Frankfurt. Similarly, Air France offers a huge discount over the Lufthansa business class fare to the USA and back if you fly from Germany via Paris. I'm talking like the difference between 4500 euros and 1700 euros!! So, since I'm in Germany, I always fly Air France/KLM and change in Paris or Amsterdam. Delta is part of the Sky Team, so I can get an Air France code-share flight number and book the Delta flight for the trip home, although the word seems to be out, and it's getting harder and harder to get a cheap seat on that flight. It IS awful taking a transatlantic flight, arriving someplace exhausted (you lose the night) early in the morning, and then having to go through immigration, a terminal change and security again, but if you are coming from the States, you get to land at your destination at the end of the longest trip, and that is always best.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Google. Seriously. Most of the the big name in travel are online now, along with
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:09 AM
Jun 2015

amateur travelers. For example, Frommer is known for making suggestions in all price ranges. http://www.frommers.com/

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
7. A great up-to-date site to check out
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 06:23 AM
Jun 2015

is Trip Advisor.

Here's its link to Paris restaurants. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurants-g187147-Paris_Ile_de_France.html

Almost anything that you need to know can be found online somewhere.

An excellent example for non-hotel vacation or short term rentals can be found with Air BnB. Here's a link: https://www.airbnb.com/s/Paris--France#

Response to historian (Original post)

Dorian Gray

(13,488 posts)
10. Outiside of tourist areas
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:08 AM
Jun 2015

any cafe is usually quite good.

I was there a few years ago, twice in a year. My husband and I walked and walked everywhere. We would stop for lunch at random places, and they were all great.

Though I would avoid anything in direct line of site of Notre Dame!

DFW

(54,330 posts)
11. And the biggest secret tip of all
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jun 2015

If you're in France between June 10 and July 10 (approximately), it is the season of the so-called "red-orange" apricots. These grow on trees in Provence, and are available at fruit stands all over France (some savvy fruit dealers get them as far away as Germany). In Paris, on the Rue Cadet (9ième, Métro Cadet), there are several within a few meters of each other--don't let the vendors pick out unripe or damaged ones for you--they will if you let them get away with it.

They are in season only for a few short weeks, but even if you have never cared much for apricots, you owe it to yourself to try a kilo of these things. I once brought a few to a vegetarian colleague who has lived in Brussels most of his adult life. He bit into one and exclaimed (I am not making this up) "I feel like an angel just pissed on my tongue!"

Once, a LONG time ago, I had the occasion to visit a family who had an orchard of these things near Aix-en-Provence, and we got to pick the ripe ones right off the trees. The angels were doing a lot of pissing that day.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
18. There last year.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:18 AM
Jun 2015

Can remember the names but just wander around and go into places that look busy with locals.

Love Paris!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
20. There's a GREAT Olive Garden right off the Place de La Concorde.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jun 2015

I recently spent a week in Paris and went there for dinner every night. Wonderful breadsticks!

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