Police report makes it clear the Duggars waited 16 months, 5-7 abuse events before reporting it.

[madfloridian]

Newly Released Police Report Details How Duggar Parents Waited 16 Months Before Going to Police

More light has been shed on the ongoing Duggar family controversy, this time with a newly released police report detailing how Josh Duggar's parents waited 16 months before telling authorities about their son's actions.

In the 2006 report obtained by In Touch, through the Freedom of Information Act, Jim Bob Duggar told police that his son admitted on three separate occasions to molesting underage girls.

The star of 19 Kids and Counting explained that Josh confessed to him in March and July of 2002, and then March of 2003, before taking him to meet with elder members of their church.

According to the police report, Jim Bob explained that "they all agreed" at the time that Josh "needed to be put into a treatment program."

...Several members of the church suggested sending Josh to Piney Ridge Treatment Center at Vista Hospital in Little Rock, however, Jim Bob "had concerns about the program" over what Josh may "be exposed to."

Wait. Jim Bob was concerned about what Josh might "be exposed to" at Piney Ridge center?

What about concerns over what Josh did 3 different times to underage girls??

[onecaliberal]

1. What about what Jim Bob was exposing his daughters to when he allowed his pedophile son to remain in

the house with them....

[madfloridian]

2. Exactly.

Curious how much Megyn Kelly cozies up to them.

[onecaliberal]

3. I would love to respond to that but I know it will be hidden and it's just not worth it.

These people are beyond sick and evil...

[NickB79]

47. Daughters? Pffff, they're just females, after all.

Unless the abuse harmed them to the point they were rendered sterile and couldn't act as incubators for another generation of Quiverfulls, why would Jim Bob give a fuck?

Notice how the entire time they seem FAR more worried about what would happen to their son than any one of their daughters?

[Gormy Cuss]

4. Seven abuse events.

The first time Josh told his father that he had touched girls inappropriately 4 or 5 times.

[madfloridian]

9. I edited to use your number.

I was trying to word it to reflect abuses at 3 different times, but the subject line is not long enough.

[Gormy Cuss]

10. I think it may have been as many as seven different times

based on the way it was phrased. The first confession was of 4 or 5 times, not 4 or 5 girls in one event.
IOW, the first time he may have been reporting a pattern of events over time which makes his father's inaction at the first report inexcusable.

[madfloridian]

27. I used 5-7.

Not enough room in subject line to word like I want.

That seems to be a safe estimate.

[tanyev]

5. I'm guessing Megyn Kelly won't ask them about that.

[douggg]

12. However Megyn questions and treats Josh is

exactly how she would question and treat someone who molests her own children.

Fair and balanced.

[peacebird]

22. LOL! Betting she gives softball questions. If *her*child were molested she would ask real questions.

[KamaAina]

6. Accessories after the fact?

That's a hell of a lot of orange jumpsuits!

[d_r]

7. I *think* Arkansas statute

Is that clergy are mandatory reporters of child abuse. Guess it depends on if "elders" were "clergy."

[phantom power]

8. Treating women and girls like sex appliances is a feature of patriarchal religions, not a bug.

[madfloridian]

11. During my teaching career I had by law to report 2 sexual abuse cases.

One was a very good call, the abuser went to prison. The other was iffy, but I had to make the call anyway.

Yet the Duggars wait 16 months while their own daughters were molested.

BTW that is not counting the abuse cases I had to call about that were not sexual in nature. I had some painful ones like that as well.

It's very hard to make those calls, but it is the law.

[mercuryblues]

17. which brings

up this question. Isn't the Duggary household registered as a church?

[malokvale77]

30. I understand the sexual abuse reporting.

Outside of that, I am very hesitant to report anything that will involve CPS.

I have seen up close and personal what happens to a child under CPS care. They are far more likely to suffer abuse in CPS foster care than they would at home.

CPS is very badly broken.

[madfloridian]

41. As a teacher the decision was out of our hands. Make the call or be fired...

and even go to jail. My principal heard I was going to call on a fairly prominent school family. She called me in and asked me not to do it. I told her it was not my choice or hers. All hell broke loose for a while, but the social worker told me later it was a good call that prevented bad things. It got the family into counseling. They later came by the class for hugs and to bring me cookies.

[malokvale77]

46. "As a teacher the decision was out of our hands."

I understand perfectly. I was speaking as a private citizen.

If I had any writing skills, I could author a book on the corruption in CPS nationwide and in particular, Texas.

That is a discussion for another day.

[SoapBox]

13. The whole mess is just digusting.

[valerief]

14. Yeah, but they prayed in the meantime, so that makes it okay.

[yardwork]

15. Pedophiles don't change. He's still doing this.

If he has children, they are at risk.

[alp227]

16. Back then, Jim Bob was a candidate for US Senate

(Mark Pryor would eventually win that seat.) And Jim Bob ran for state legislature again in 2006. That is probably why he didn't want his son in trouble with the law. If Josh has a criminal record, the family is ruined. No reality TV deal, no political future for JB, nothing.

[libdem4life]

18. We don't Know much of anything...only what they choose to let us know. Jim Bob is the

Patriarch and I don't think he's lilly white in this, either. This kind of secret and hiding and shame and fear of outsiders Does Not happen in a vacuum.

Josh is the Scapegoat, and those pathetic excuses of parents are allowing HIM to be devoured, just in a different way. Josh learned that behavior from someone...the girls learned to let it happen from somewhere...anyone who has been anywhere near a sex abuse counselor knows that this just isn't an OOps.

Incestuous families live in such fear of discovery that it drives them further into the dark side. Jim Bob needs to be held responsible. And I hate to say it, but all those children should be taken from them. I know that's extreme, but that's their only hope. And to think this is just going to go away now? That's insane.

[Unknown Beatle]

19. Ted Nugent is probably thinking:

"Damn! I really like this guy Josh. I wonder if he was emulating my actions."

[TNNurse]

20. Of course they were concerned

Josh could have been exposed to decent human beings with morals and a conscience. They might have helped him and made sure the girls got help. They could not have that.

[madfloridian]

26. Good post.

[TNNurse]

37. Thanks

I just read that Jessa Duggar who calls herself a "victim", does not understand why they are calling him a pedophile ( I realize he was too young for that name then) or child molester...."that is so overboard". That young woman has been taught some very warped ideas about ....well probably everything. Do you think her parents convinced her that this was no big deal?

[madfloridian]

42. Yes, I think it is most likely her role in the patriarchal family.

I think they strongly convinced her it was no big deal...when unfortunately it really is.

[AC_Mem]

50. She is pregnant

Think she will let Uncle Josh babysit her chIld when they get to the ripe age of 5?

The parents are victimizing the girls again by this mess of an "explanation" on, of course, Fox.

Wonder what TLC thinks about this....

[madfloridian]

54. TLC needs their money maker back. Betcha they put someone in the family on the air again.

[dbackjon]

21. Waiting for the DU Duggar defenders to check in.

[Iggo]

29. Surely, they don't exist.

[JI7]

35. there is at least one

[Iggo]

36. Oh, gud gawd!

[countryjake]

44. For those of us who have life experience dealing with both abuse...

and sexual predators, it's more than just a slap to the head.

[dbackjon]

60. There are multiple

Including one that is very vocal about the poor, misunderstood Josh.

[Diclotican]

23. madfloridian

madfloridian

If I had a son - or a close relative who was living in my home and did something like this with my off-springs - my kids - I know I would first of all beat the living shit out of him for doing it - And I am not really a man who beat people as I am somewhat of a coward, but then I know I would be rather nasty then drag him to the nearest police department and get him arrested on the spot - and then I would have thrown him out of the house never to be allowed to get back again - regardless of who it was...

I would NOT have kept it a secret - and let the man live under the same roof as the rest of the family.... Or for the matter in the same county... Or for that mater in the same area of the country....

This familiy, from what I have been reading - is really sick... To defend a child predator because of religion is just disgusting and horrible...

Diclotican

[madfloridian]

25. Agree, Diclotican

They really did not take it seriously at all. It's a shame.

[malokvale77]

32. Diclotican...

You just described exactly how my family would handle such a situation.

Maybe it is a Norwegian thing.

[Diclotican]

33. malokvale77

malokvale77

It could be, I think my viking herritage would have blown up if I someone I had had under my roof, had been doing something like that I would go beserk - and not in a nice fachion... I would be a very mad person then for a while...

Diclotican

[malokvale77]

43. "I would be a very mad person then for a while..."

This in a nutshell.

Sometimes I think we Vikings are way ahead of the game.

[Diclotican]

57. malokvale77

malokvale77

Ideend I think sometimes the Vikings was just ahead of the game myself..

So you are norwigian yourself? - living in the US?

Diclotican

[malokvale77]

61. In a manner ...

My father was the first born of Norwegian immigrants. My grandmother was from Trondheim. My grandfather was from one of the Kvale Islands off the coast of Norway.

My mother is of Scotch, Irish, English and Choctaw ancestry.

My physical features are pure Norwegian (I was a real looker in my younger days). LOL.

[Monk06]

24. Ol Jim Bob was worried that if Josh went to Piney Ridge the media would find out. Cults like

to keep things in the 'family'.

[Rex]

28. So when do the police intend to file charges?

I know...dream on Rex...

[madfloridian]

31. They can't because of statute of limitations, at least that is what I read.

Josh was suing children's services for investigating him. Lost the link, have to look for it.

[countryjake]

38. Here's an article from Jezebel...

http://jezebel.com/josh-duggar-responded-to-molestation-case-by-suing-the-1707152331#_ga=1.202322385.1190437606.1432751719

That's the only link I have for Duggar's lawsuit, tho I'd like to read a little more in depth about Josh's response back then.

[madfloridian]

40. “Josh would be considered an in-home offender, giving DHS the authority to do an investigation."

Interesting. That's more than was in the article I can't find. Will keep looking. Nervy. They wait 16 months and then sue children's services for doing their job.

[madfloridian]

56. Found other links, but they all say about the same.

Basically came from In Touch reports. Apparently DHS reports could have removed him from the home, and he had the right to sue to over the outcome. ? Apparently there was a court hearing but it was kept secret.

[malokvale77]

39. I will never understand...

the statute of limitation on Child Molestation charges. Most children are too afraid to say anything. It takes a long time for most humans to realize that what happens to us as children is beyond our control.

[workinclasszero]

34. I'm sure this will all come out on the fux "news" interview

[avebury]

45. Boo hoo hoo!

We are so picked upon.

Why are people up in arms that the record was released - that is the real story.

Talk about trying to deflect the story away from themselves.

[madfloridian]

48. IMO this was a bunch of hogwash.

Some text there which is hogwash as well.

[tblue37]

52. At 4:17 they say that many of their acquaintances told them back then

that such things were common in families and several said it had happened in their own families.

But, no, this is not common in normal, healthy families at all. Unless they are just making that story up, then all those families they talked to should also be investigated!

I assume that if this claim is true, the people they talked to were all from the same extreme fundamentalist religion as the Duggars, so if such behavior is common among them, that would seem to be pretty strong evidence that their religion encourages some very twisted behavior.

[peace13]

53. Jim Bob has a terrible tell with all of that throat clearing.

These folks clearly did not protect their daughters from the clear and present threat of danger. Over and over the abuse transpires. This is sickening!

[madfloridian]

49. Trending on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DuggarInterview?src=tren&trend_id=TREND_CONTEXT%3A606284055580045312

Most not very happy.

[madfloridian]

51. Wow...people so not happy.

They did themselves no favor by doing this interview.

[madfloridian]

55. Updated Twitter trending.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/duggarinterview?src=tren&vertical=default

[central scrutinizer]

58. some good comments there

"Only for a few seconds?!" It's not a sandwich you dropped on the floor. There is NO 5-Second Rule for sexual assault!!!

[backscatter712]

59. The fact there are still right-wingers defending these festering fuckscabs disgusts me.

Josh Dugger belongs in prison. Period. And Joe Bob and Michelle also belong in prison, for failing to act when they found out about it.