Political Bombshell: Rand Paul to attack classified Saudi link to 9-11 by every means possible.

[Kurska]

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-02/rand-paul-wants-redacted-9-11-information-released

"Flanked by members of Congress and the families of 9/11 victims, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul on Tuesday introduced legislation that would force 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 Commission report to be made public. He was building on a promise he made on the campaign trail, and a cause that had been furthered by New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and Oregon Senator Ron Wyden, both Democrats.

"The survivors, civilian heroes, and victims of 9/11 attacks–some of whom are here today–deserve the full truth," Paul said. "Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. While their nationality alone does not constitute any wrongdoing by the Saudi government, information that has been revealed over the years has raised questions about their support."

Toward the end of the news conference, Paul specifically called on "the media" and got some specific questions about his game plan. He said he did not immediately intend to read the redacted pages into the congressional record. "We're gonna try the normal legislative procedure first, and see how it goes," he said. "I will bring it up with the president.""

This could be huge. HUGE. If the America public was made aware of the extent at which Saudi Arabia is responsible for 9-11, it could be a diplomatic storm.

We deserve to know.

[Warpy]

1. The rabid little fake might prove to be useful, after all

if he keeps consistently being right twice a day.

This really does need to be explored. Oil baron administrations won't do it. Maybe a financial industry administration will.

[Enrique]

2. yes, he has the ability to shine a light on it

[Mz Pip]

4. Being right twice a day is a rarity.

glad to see someone look into the Saudi connection. We shall see if the doesn't end up getting shut down.

[Kurska]

6. I think it is going to happen.

Rand Paul already pissed of his party's elite by going after the patriot act. What dos he have to lose?

[localroger]

39. not just twice

A stopped clock is right twice a day but a clock that runs backwards is right four times a day.

[0rganism]

8. twice a day? hell, i'd settle for once a month

i'm not sure anyone in the GOP congress qualifies for the "stopped clock" award; Mr. Paul might pass my "stopped calendar" test, though.

[GummyBearz]

106. Give credit where credit is due

Geez.. I don't agree with him on much of anything, but hes doing something good in this case, and should be encouraged instead of given back handed compliments.

[billhicks76]

85. Obama Derilict

He made promises to address this even a year ago. What happened? He get scared? Lip service ?

[Warpy]

86. I think someone has managed to scare him pretty thoroughly.

[billhicks76]

88. I Tend To Agree

I can't wait to hear the deathbed confessions regarding 911. Like E Howard Hunt laying out the chain of command for JFK's murder.

[fasttense]

99. A little too little too late

Useful information to have had Before we attacked another country. Now it is merely interesting information.

[erronis]

103. It's never too late - that's how we learn from our mistakes.

[leveymg]

104. Not too late. There's a reason this has continued to be covered up. The AAA Operation never

completely ended.

Anwar al-Awlaki (AAA) was far more than a propagandist - he was a CIA and Saudi GID double-agent

The only question, is how witting was he in his true role as a spider at the center of a very wide global web spun by the Central Intelligence Agency. A web the Agency spun before 9/11 that netted the Flight 77 hijackers, the shoe bomber, the Times Square bomber, the Ft. Hood Shooter, and the Underwear Bomber, all of whom came to the attention of the CIA and FBI well before they committed their acts of terrorism.

All we know for sure is that Al-Awlaki knew too much about these operations and had outlived his usefulness. His son also knew too much about his father, so he had to go, too.

The former head of the CIA Bin Laden Unit, Michael Scheuer, admits Al-Awlaki was a US Intel Asset. See video below.

This guy was much more than a propagandist hater. He was a double-agent who played a role in identifying numerous al-Qaeda operatives involved in attacks on the US during the last ten years, before the fact of the attacks -- from the guys who flew Flt. 77 into the Pentagon, to the shoe bomber, to the Ft. Hood shooter, to the Underwear bomber, and even reportedly influence the older Boston Bomber. The only question is how witting his role was as the spider at the center of the CIA (and/or) DIA (and/or) FBI web(s).

Killing him means Anwar al-Awlaki will never talk about what he understood his actual role was. Nor will the kid. Anwar al-Awlaki was far more than a propagandist - AAA was a CIA double-agent.

Al-Awlaki lasted way past his shelf life in the GWOT. But, he was eventually thrown into the cutout bin, and here is why I think they finally did that.

The President was not pleased the Underwear Bomber got as far as the airspace over Detroit on Christmas Day, 2009. Even less so about the publicity attached to the role of others in getting him onto that airplane, leading back to Awlaki (who was also involved in aiding the Flt. 77 hijackers, the Ft Hood shooter, and the Times Square bomber). In the end, al-Awlaki's role as a U.S. agent was all but admitted to by U.S. officials. Here's what Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy said in his testimony before a Senate Committee in January 2010: http://www.state.gov/m/rls/remarks/2010/135865.htm

“We will use revocation authority prior to interagency consultation in circumstances where we believe there is an immediate threat. Revocation is an important tool in our border security arsenal. At the same time, expeditious coordination with our national security partners is not to be underestimated. There have been numerous cases where our unilateral and uncoordinated revocation would have disrupted important investigations that were underway by one of our national security partners. They had the individual under investigation and our revocation action would have disclosed the U.S. Government’s interest in the individual and ended our colleagues’ ability to quietly pursue the case and identify terrorists’ plans and co-conspirators.”

So it was in a sense for AAA. The remaining questing is this: did Anwar al-Awlaki become unreliable or simply lose his operational usefulness? That makes his killing seem all the more outrageous.

[sulphurdunn]

122. It could be much more than that.

It might even raise the question about who bankrolls ISIS.

[BeanMusical]

115. "The rabid little fake might prove to be useful, after all"

First thing that came to mind when I read the OP.

[Raster]

117. Ding! Winnah!

By whatever means necessary.

[KamaAina]

123. Rabid little fake?

Him or his rug?

[HooptieWagon]

3. Hmmmmmm....maybe I'm being reflexively cynical.

While I applaud Paul's effort to make the truth known, I find the timing interesting. We've "known" there was Saudi involvement in 9/11 for over a decade... certainly Paul has too. So why now? Perhaps b/c a Bush is entering the contest? Releasing a bombshell like that would kill any chance Jeb has.

[cui bono]

27. I think he also wants to be seen as the candidate that's fighting for the people.

There is overlap with Libertarians and the left as far as distrust of govt and being tired of banksters and corporate rule, the establishment. If none of the other R's are going to do it Sanders will get those voters, so he's jumping in there to try to snag any of the disgruntled people.

[Chemisse]

33. Maybe he just wants to see what he can accomplish while he is in the spotlight.

His anti-war attitude makes him dead in the water among Republicans, so he really has nothing to lose by doing this.

[Exilednight]

36. I don't believe that there is anyone on this board that doesn't know

What his motives are. I don't dount his sincerity in the matter, but the timing does show darker motives.

With that being said, I hope he succeeds. This is one of the few times where I believe the end justifies the means.

[Duppers]

87. Exactly.

I frankly don't care what his motives are. IF he can expose the hidden secrets then that will exposed the lies that have been told to the American people since Bush took office. Then KABOOM!! Even some wingers will take note.

[arcane1]

5. Indeed, we deserved to know THEN! I found this little exchange interesting:

That meant that the first question went to a man clad in black clothes, a black backpack, and black baseball cap. He identified himself as Barry Kissin, and started in on a leading question about the George W. Bush administration's knowledge of Saudi connections to 9/11. As he started in, Paul quickly stepped back and encouraged Graham to take the question.

"Is Senator Graham aware of who was the ambassador to Saudi Arabia at the time?" said the man.

"Prince Bandar," said Graham.

"Now, is this the same Bandar that George W. Bush called 'Bandar Bush?'"

"I only know of one Prince Bandar," deadpanned Graham.

[JDPriestly]

45. I believe I read in the book The Price of Loyalty

that Laura Bush attended a musical event and sort of party hosted by Prince Bandar shortly after 9/11. Paul O'Neill apparently told that story.

If Saudi Arabia had anything to do with 9/11, seems to me that her attending that event was to say the least, inappropriate.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Price-Loyalty-George-Education/dp/0743255461

I don't know the whole story, but it seems odd.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. You mean, there are 9/11 families that didn't sign off on their rights with early

settlement agreements?

[Octafish]

9. What's in there will sink Jebthro.

When Bandar Bush is considered a brother, how would Saudi financing of hijackers look?



Think of the optics.

[hifiguy]

53. Like the Titanic.

Glub, glub, Jebbie.

[TBF]

65. Which is why Jeb hasn't announced yet.

He's got to know that this is out there.

[Ilsa]

97. It would sink even faster if there was a way to

tie Prescott Bush to the Nazis. It's a family thing and they are all traitors. We still have George P. to consider since he's already started his political career in Texas.

[chapdrum]

129. Thanks to Ilsa for saying the unfashionable thing

"…they are all traitors…"
One of George P's first successes is his role in having the voter-approved fracking ban in Denton TX overturned.

[libdem4life]

10. I just came from the FIFA scandal page where the Swiss guy was unseated by the Saudis in the

corruption situation, aided by Loretta Lynch leading the charge. He's pissed. Hopefully he doesn't start the Swiss looking into our banking system...of which they hold a few cards.

Now this, then there's the snub when the Saudis just sent officials to meet with Obama a month or so ago.

And then that little event of the Saudi Royal family being flown out right after 9/1l when the skies were closed to all airplanes? Wonder if that is in those redacted pages.

Mixed messages, to be sure. Wonder if any of this has to do with our little Corporate Money scandal and the Too Big To Fail banks...as I recall some of those princes own big shares?

Inquiring minds want to know.

PS...seems the political Rabble Rousers these days are definitely Not from either of the Major Parties but they are getting the people's ears like never before. Now there's another interesting development for us political junkies.

[truedelphi]

13. Good points you are making, every

Single one of them.

[pangaia]

16. Just a small correction.

The skies were not 'closed to airplanes' when the Saudis were flown out of the country.
As if that makes any difference, eh..

[libdem4life]

20. Well a little bit of difference...could have sworn that was the case...it's been a long time.

Got to keep each other on our toes. Then what was the scuttlebut about? Just the fact they were Saudis and leaving under cover of night?

[pangaia]

21. I'm with you.

We just don't want the 'bad guys' saying. SEE Gotcha.

[arcane1]

28. Per Snopes, the airspace was indeed closed, but the Saudi flight part wasn't true:

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

They quote the 9/11 commission as saying:

"First, we found no evidence that any flights of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September 13, 2001. To the contrary, every flight we have identified occurred after national airspace reopened. "


All this time I believed the Saudi flight story too... now I'm curious to know where that came from

[Qutzupalotl]

30. I heard it from Michael Moore.

But now I can't remember if it was an email, a book or a TV appearance. Might have been all three.

[arcane1]

34. I'm thinking it was a combination of things, including the flurry of news at the time

From the 9/11 commission:

Another particular allegation is that a flight carrying Saudi nationals from Tampa, Florida, to Lexington, Kentucky, was allowed to fly while airspace was closed, with special approval by senior U.S. government officials. On September 13, Tampa police brought three young Saudis they were protecting on an off-duty security detail to the airport so they could get on a plane to Lexington. Tampa police arranged for two more private investigators to provide security on the flight. They boarded a chartered Learjet. The plane took off at 4:37 P.M., after national airspace was open, more than five hours after the Tampa airport had reopened, and after other flights had arrived at and departed from that airport. The three Saudi nationals debarked from the plane and were met by local police. Their private security guards were paid. and the police then escorted the three Saudi passengers to a hotel where they joined relatives already in Lexington. The FBI is alleged to have had no record of the flight and denied that it occurred, hence contributing to the story of a "phantom flight." This is another misunderstanding. The FBI was initially misinformed about how the Saudis got to Lexington by a local police officer in Lexington who did not have firsthand knowledge of the matter. The Bureau subsequently learned about the flight.

These flights were screened by law enforcement officials, primarily the FBI. For example, one flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin. Screening of this flight was directed by an FBI agent in the Baltimore Field Office who was also a pilot ... The Bin Ladin flight and other flights we examined were screened in accordance with policies set by FBI headquarters and coordinated through working-level interagency processes. Although most of the passengers were not interviewed, 22 of the 26 people on the Bin Ladin flight were interviewed by the FBI. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity.



So they did let OBL's relatives leave the country, it was after the fact. This was probably blended with the "phantom flight" in all the confusion of those first days after the attack

[Mnpaul]

51. It was in Fahrenheit 9/11

but you weren't listening closely:


MOORE (VO): In the days following September 11, all commercial and private airline traffic was grounded.

MALE SPOKESMAN: The FAA has taken the action to close all the airports in the United States.

MALE NEWSMAN (VO): Even grounding the President’s father, former President Bush, on a flight forced to land in Milwaukee.

MALE NEWSMAN (VO): Thousands of travelers were stranded. [Ricky Martin.] Among them, Ricky Martin, due to appear at tonight’s Latin Grammy awards.

MOORE (VO): Not even Ricky Martin could fly. But really, who wanted to fly? [A dog walked by the police in an airport terminal.] No one. [Osama bin Laden.] Except the bin Ladens.

SONG: We gotta get out of this place, if it’s the last thing we ever do…

SEN. BYRON DORGAN (D-ND), Senate Subcommittee on Aviation: We had some airplanes authorized at the highest levels of our government to fly to pick up Osama bin Laden’s family members and others from Saudi Arabia and transport them out of this country.

MOORE (VO): It turns out that the White House approved planes to pick up the bin Ladens and numerous other Saudis. [Listing of flights to Saudi Arabia.] At least six private jets and nearly two dozen commercial planes [Close Up: “SAUDIA ARABIA”] carried the Saudis and the bin Ladens out of the US after September 13th. [CU: Scan down long list of flights, focusing on the 9/13 date.] In all, 142 Saudis, including 24 members of the bin Laden family, were allowed to leave the country.
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/001375

[truebrit71]

56. Good catch.... thanks!

[LeftOfWest]

94. Nailed history. THANK YOU!

[valerief]

110. +1

[libdem4life]

31. Thanks.

[arcane1]

35. We both learned something new today. That's the good news! :)

[Cheviteau]

66. Read Carefully...

the quote. "Every flight we have identified..." And finding no evidence is not proof it didn't happen.

[maddiemom]

107. Yes, flights were canceled. My daughter was scheduled to fly on 9/12.

The airline put her up overnight because she was misinformed about their flights that day. For the next few days they were encouraging anyone who wasn't flying for business to postpone.

[JDPriestly]

48. Don't be so sure. I researched that way back in 2004 and I am not so sure that the skies were

closed to the Bin Laden family's plane. It is not so certain, I believe.

[Oilwellian]

63. According to Schumer, there was a plane that left on September 13th

A group of US senators has written to President George W Bush, asking for details of a charter flight out of the US two days after the September 11 attacks.

The flight was carrying 13 members of the bin Laden family out of the country.

Osama bin Laden is accused of masterminding the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington in 2001, which killed almost 3,000 people.

Democrat Senator Charles Schumer from the Senate Armed Services Committee, says evidence suggests the flight was organised by the White House, and he is one of the signatories on the letter asking for more information.

"It's awfully strange that on September 13th, the only plane that was allowed to fly was a plane with many high-ranking Saudi nationals, who might have known something about terrorism," he said.

"No-one has figured out why. No-one has figured out who gave the authorisation."

Senator Schumer says evidence suggests the former White House anti-terrorism chief, Richard Clarke, cleared the bin Ladens to leave the country.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-07-25/senators-seek-clarification-on-bin-laden-charter/2014888

[loudsue]

96. Well, all commercial flights were grounded. Period. My family was spread all over the place, and

not ONE was able to fly commercially for several days, and me for 8 days (in Alaska).

Yes, American planes were grounded except for congress critters and the 1%....and, of course, the Saudis.

[pangaia]

132. Yes, I know all commecial flights were grounded.

I didn't say they weren't.
I just wasn't so sure certain Saudis were flown somewhere during that shutdown.

[dmr]

32. Good points. Also, if this means anything, a Saudi prince has some ownership

with Murdock's devisive media empire which includes Fox Propaganda News.

Senator Graham has been trying to get those redacted pages released. I wish them success.

[OnyxCollie]

82. Alwaleed bin Talal sold his Newscorpse shares in February.

Not sayin' he wasn't steering Fox News messaging to drum up support for the Iraq war.

[ANOIS]

91. I believe some Bin Laden family

members were also flown out.

[ANOIS]

93. Oops, sorry, #34.

You covered it already. Thanks.

[Autumn]

11. He just might be a useful little tool after all.

[sadoldgirl]

12. Who is in charge of releasing this info? n/t

[n2doc]

14. Well, if he succeeds then he destroys W, and JEB, and anyone else connected with W

And will make the Repub base angry at the Repub establishment. So it is a smart strategy.

[Duppers]

81. bingo

[ChisolmTrailDem]

119. Yes. And more power to him. nt

[LittleBlue]

15. Good. About time we stopped white washing Saudi involvement

In this and many other issues

[NightWatcher]

17. Even a broken flashlight can be a usefull tool if you can use it to drive a nail.

Hammer away, Aqua Buddha. This bong hit's for you.

[glinda]

62. that made me laugh...I needed that

[H2O Man]

18. Huge!

Recommended.

I'm no "Rand Paul fan." My fear is that he could be the republican candidate in 2016, as I think he could prove much more difficult to defeat than any of the others. My younger son says that I'm way wrong about that, but I think he could create a very non-traditional contest.

Anyhow, I think he's generally right on this updated Patriot Act; I know that he is right to make this information public.

[clarice]

19. Good for him. nt

[pangaia]

22. So where have 'democrats' been on this for the last 10 years?

Or did I miss something, which is all too possible.
What a shame only a nitwit repub has the balls to even say anything...

[hifiguy]

52. Making sure that the boat isn't being rocked.

Just like when Pelosi immediately took the chimpeachment off the table.

[truebrit71]

54. No shit.... gotta keep that powder nice and dry...

[pangaia]

68. What an embarrassment, eh.

[Mnpaul]

57. Where have the Democrats been?

Snuggling up to the Saudis as well

[KamaAina]

124. Here

He was building on a promise he made on the campaign trail, and a cause that had been furthered by New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and Oregon Senator Ron Wyden, both Democrats.

[Reter]

133. Cynthia McKinney has been great on this

But the establishment shut her up and pushed her out of a seat.

[loudsue]

135. Cynthia McKinney was crucified.

A lot of left-leaning heroes get crucified. History is a witness.

[johnnyreb]

23. Dems need to be ON this.

We USED to be:

46 Democratic Senators have called on the Bush administration to declassify the 28 pages of the Congressional 9/11 report that has been deleted from the public report.
Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said, "Keeping this material classified only strengthens the theory that some in the U.S. government are hellbent on covering up for the Saudis."
http://www.democracynow.org/2003/8/4/headlines

Joint Inquiry co-chair Bob Graham is the acknowledged leader on this matter, he is kicking butt day after day and we Democrats are leaving him out in the cold.

Bob Graham: "While the 28 pages are maybe the most important and the most prominent, they are by no means the only example of where information that is important to understanding the full extent of 9/11 have also been withheld from the American people."

"This is not a narrow issue of withholding information at one place, in one time. This is a pervasive pattern of covering up the role of Saudi Arabia in 9/11, by all of the agencies of the Federal government, which have access to information that might illuminate Saudi Arabia’s role in 9/11."

See also:

Rand Paul leads bipartisan effort to declassify 28 pages of 9/11 report
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/02/rand-paul-urges-obama-to-declassify-28-pages-of-the-911-report?CMP=share_btn_tw

Paul joins crusade to expose secret 9/11 documents
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/243730-paul-joins-crusade-to-expose-secret-9-11-pages

[Warren DeMontague]

24. It's pretty sad that on stuff like this, or pot legalization, we're letting the likes of Rand Paul

carry water for areas where we should be leading.

[raindaddy]

55. Exactly...

This was once the territory of the Democratic party.

Allowing the Bush administration to get away with redacting the 28 pages that points to the Saudis funding 9/11, torture was one of the biggest mistakes the Dem party ever made..
No longer the party of JFK, RFK and FDR....

[90-percent]

101. torture

GWB was the first President in American history to officially authorize torture as part of US military policy. Thanks, George, That's 215 years of American moral leadership down the drain, for torture puts us on the exact same moral plane of all those "that hate us for our freedoms."

It also nullifies the service of every American that gave their lives in all our wars "to preserve the American way of life and protect and defend the Constitution." Thanks for your sacrifices, sorry we squandered and dishonored it by torturing bad guys.

-90% Jimmy

[sulphurdunn]

128. It's the kind of thing

that always happens when demons make diimwits titular heads of state.

[Enthusiast]

69. It's no accident. DWS even voted against medical marijuana in Florida.

WTF?

[Warren DeMontague]

71. And oddly enough (or not) in certain states where state Dems and party WERE on board w/legalization

we won, cough Oregon cough

[Enthusiast]

73. I get the distinct impression They® actually don't want us to win.

[KamaAina]

125. Some of us ARE

He was building on a promise he made on the campaign trail, and a cause that had been furthered by New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and Oregon Senator Ron Wyden, both Democrats.

[underpants]

25. Politically a. Too early b. He is running for the general election

at the expense of his primary concerns. It could work - the right will do anything they are told - but it could backfire. 9/11 is like a holiday to them. Anything that upsets their trained memories is disconcerting to them. As much as they block out the W fiasco THAT, 9/11, was their one shining moment.

[jalan48]

26. Rand should avoid flying on small planes for awhile.

[samsingh]

29. we deserve the truth

[herding cats]

37. Sen Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Sen Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) are also behind this

Former Florida Senator Bob Graham, who chaired the committee, has been saying this for some time and as recently as this year he was in the news saying this.

The only reason Rand Paul is getting the headline is because he's running for Republican nomination. Which means he's going to be getting more media attention on a national level. It makes sense if you want people to hear what you're doing, beyond we political wonks that is, to let him make the announcement.

The fact that it could sully Jeb's chance of being president is just a political cherry on top of the whipped cream.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. Yeah, like seize their holdings,....like that big chunk of Wall Street they own.

[SusanCalvin]

40. Good. nt

[kentuck]

41. Why aren't we supporting this??

Are we against it for purely political reasons, even if it might be good for country?

[G_j]

79. I support it

even if Paul is a psychopathic ass hole. I want to know the truth. Someone should have done this earlier.

[lostnfound]

111. Well-stated. N/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. Good. I'm glad to see some Democrats jumping in.

?t=46

[840high]

43. Good.

[Blue_Tires]

44. Paul gets TWO campaign commercials in one week

His campaign manager must be orgasmic right about now...

[peecoolyour]

46. Maybe, maybe not.

Washington (CNN)The presidential campaign of Sen. Rand Paul took down a web video Monday after the Senate Rules Committee determined its use of Senate floor proceedings in the posting violated the chamber's rules.

The video, which was posted on YouTube on Friday, used excerpts of a recent floor speech the Kentucky Republican delivered about his opposition to continuing a National Security Agency program that sweeps up a vast amount of call data from Americans in its search for terrorists.

"Use of any duplication of television coverage of the proceedings of the Senate for campaign purposes is strictly prohibited," said Brian Hart, a spokesman for Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Missouri, the chairman of the Senate Rules Committee, citing the standing rules of the Senate.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/01/politics/rand-paul-nsa-senate-rules-violation/

They're all going to rip each other to shreds between now and next year.

[SoapBox]

47. I hate the little twit but

this would be big...if anything actually gets released.

Maybe he could try and get the records from Cheney's White House Energy Summit.

[hifiguy]

49. Even a benighted halfwit with a dead tribble on his head

may just stumble on to one good idea in his lifetime.

[Jackpine Radical]

50. Holy Crap--The lunatic is out of the asylum

and he brought Nurse Ratchett's secret personnel file with him.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

58. When DICK had to accompany W to the hearings, we should have all shit our pants

and screamed from the rooftops, but we did nothing.

Rand Paul is a nightmare, but if he accomplishes something here, good.

But he cant have the WH, over my blah body

[Enthusiast]

70. When Bush and Cheney testifed together and not under oath

the media acted as if that was just standard operating procedure—not suspicious in the least.

It raised huge alarm bells with me. Are we just that much smarter than the media? I don't think so.

I agree. We don't want any white supremacists anywhere new the levers of power.

[Bohunk68]

98. What you all said.

The whole 9/11 commission was nothing more than a big whitewash. It was obvious at the time. I find it amazing that it is being quoted as an authoritative source of information when it was nothing but disinformation.

[DonCoquixote]

59. as much as I hate Paul

if he does this, I will praise him, not enough to let him near the White House, but enough he gets his due.

[KoKo]

60. It Could Be Huge...If we can get it released without Redactions..

[Kurska]

76. He could read it into the official senate proceedings if they stonewall him

They can't stop him if he really wants to.

[Thespian2]

61. K & R

Piles of money will be spent to keep the redacted pages secret...At least Paul will make the corporatists shit their pants for a few minutes...

[Mira]

64. I am shocked and I am thrilled

Wouldn't it be fabulous if he had Senator Graham by his side

[johnnyreb]

67. Actually, retired Senator Bob Graham has Paul by his side.

Republican presidential candidate, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. and former Florida Sen. Bob Graham take questions from the audience during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., on June 2, 2015.

http://www.macon.com/2015/06/02/3776773/former-sen-bob-graham-for-president.html

All defer to retired Democratic Senator Graham as the one who has carried the fight this far.

The authoritative 9/11 family-endorsed page is 28pages.org

[Mira]

75. Yes.

That's superb.
How rare to see such co-operation

[carolinayellowdog]

72. debate discussions could be more interesting in both parties

if this information is released and the Bush legacy better understood

[Reter]

74. He's no broken clock

He's right four times a day. I hope it's him against Bernie. Who will win? Freedom.

[workinclasszero]

78. Well if Rand can expose a link from Bush to the Saudis and 9-11

at least he would have done one good thing in his repub hater life.

[Joe the Revelator]

80. Say what you will, but Rand is exciting

Some of his idea are bat shit crazy....but some of them are really on point.

[rhett o rick]

83. Democrats should be persuing this. I mean more than two. But even some here don't want

to know the truth and would hide this story as CT if they could get away with it. Inconvenient truths for Democrats as well as Republicons.

[noise]

84. This makes Presidents of both parties

look very, very bad.

How sick is it to terrorize the public in order to sell the necessity of police state policies while covering up information that does not mesh with government propaganda?

Very, very sick.

[Puzzledtraveller]

90. No doubt the collusion runs thick between the two

they really are the masters of self preservation so if this shines a little light to get the roaches skittering I'm all for it.

[McCamy Taylor]

89. He is morphing into his dad. This ought to be fun to watch.

[fingrin]

92. Im for Conspiracy theory

Firstly for an interest in 9\11 and secondly as a non American because the events shaped My Government, which enacted laws to curtail my Freedom.
It sure makes an interesting story on Bloomberg, not for what was written but for the subtle manipulation of the reader.
Firstly we have that quaint description of the man who was asked the first question. He was "Dressed in black, Black backpack and Black cap" Now close your eyes and Imagine him. Whats your first thought?
That's right. ISIS, Terrorist. Danger, Danger, Danger.
People think hes not worth of listening to. Someone not to be taken seriously.
Next we have a joke thrown in about Bandar Bush just to reinforce the first image in your head. Hes a joke. The man in "black" a memory.
Now we write the money shot. A nice little spiel on how its all a conspiracy theory complete with link.
Indoctination 101 nothing to read here. Move along.

[Scuba]

95. Kickety kick kick.

[90-percent]

100. Amongst all the incredibly implausible 9-11 factoids;

The one that amazes me the most for it's lack of attention is the business partnership between G.W. and Salem Bin Laden in Arbusto? Energy in the early 80's.

The sitting President of the USA was former business partners with the half brother of the mastermind of 9-11, the worst act of domestic terrorism in the history of the United States. Salem died in a small plane accident in 1988.

A hypothetical - what if 9-11 happened on Clinton's watch, and he had been a business partner with Salem Bin Laden: Do you think republicans and the MSM perhaps would have made a big deal out of this connection?

It's always amazing to me that the MSM is utterly non-plussed about that remarkable connection.

-90% Jimmy

[duhneece]

105. ARBUSTO!! I, too, can't believe this isn't and wasn't HUGE news

The folks I shared it with thought I was making it up or else we, the American public, would have known about it through 'mainstream' news...
Can you imagine if Tim McVeigh's half-brother had bailed out...oh, never mind, we couldn't have made up the Arbusto-Bush-binLaden connection..

[lostnfound]

112. Arbusto. I wish I could give a "recommend" to this post all by itself.

True, true.

[AikidoSoul]

118. The Bushes, their friends, and the Bin Laden family were also investors in The Carlyle Group

which has huge interests in the machinery of war.

[raouldukelives]

126. Agreed, but I don't find the MSM ignoring it amazing, quite the contrary. nt

[90-percent]

102. Lastly, my theory of the causes of 9-11

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Roughly, the GWB White House gave a stand down order for all investigations involving Saudi Nationals living in the USA and learning how to fly but not land 747's. I think GWB did this because his entire livelihood for most of his adult life was dependent on kissing the asses of all the Saudi Princes in charge of maintaining the flow of cheap Saudi oil to the USA. And the USA has done much worse to keep the flow of cheap oil going AT ALL COSTS.

Plus I think the GWB White House was too stupid (The polite term is "failure of imagination&quot to have comprehended the implications and consequences of "Osama Bin Laden determined to strike in US". They probably thought the terrorism would be small in scale, comparable to a typical and not infrequent American firearms mass murder in a school, church, or Boston Marathon.

-90% Jimmy

[CanonRay]

108. Go Rand, I sincerely hope he succeeds

we not only have a right to know, we have a need to know the truth. If Rand Paul is the vehicle to make that happen, so be it. Anything to shake up this power structure.

[lark]

109. Believe Rand is doing this to hurt Jeb,

but regardless of motive, the end result would be a huge black eye for those who were responsible back then and those who would try to cover this up today. Of course, I wouldn't mind Jebbie getting a bit of a black eye over this either.

[lostnfound]

113. Perhaps he didn't appreciate being scolded by Mitch either.

Can't stand Rand but hate that our government has lied to us about something so important for so long.

[lostnfound]

114. Hastert iceberg

Anyone else wonder if the intrigue hinted at in Sibel Edmond's comments will end up being a thread connected to Saudis?

[Raster]

116. Lord, I can't believe I am saying this: GO RAND PAUL!

15 OUT OF 19!

[bbgrunt]

120. I wish him well in this endeavor. Just two thoughts: anthrax and small planes.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

121. I've said it before and I'll say it again: 9/11 was an inside job. nt

[Javaman]

127. meh...

let's see first just how far he goes.

me thinks it will be just far enough to keep himself in the headlines to baluster his rather lack luster campaign.

[douggg]

130. The Bush family does not want their Saudi friends exposed.

After 9-11 the skies over America were closed to air traffic except for Bush's Saudi friends including bin Laden's relatives.

How did Bush know that they needed safe passage out of America?

[Babel_17]

131. My guess is that the incredbly large Saudi royal family has its finger in lots of pies

I don't think that can casually be explained but we're talking thousands of people with significant cash. Gaining influence/sympathy with diverse groups might be seen as the best thing for the royal family. And it might even go beyond that including plausible deniability for the top of the royal family. There could be competing factions, and/or no real agreement on what's best.
In exchange for favors from factions friendly to the US government/the then current administration, our government might have decided to sweep some stuff under the rug. Maybe they thought they were avoiding stirring up a hornets nest. By avoiding embarrassing revelations, they avoided compelling Saudi Arabia from cracking down on, and possibly further radicalizing, any dissident members of their wealthy elite (so they might have told themselves).
Just thinking out loud, not making excuses. I wasn't a fan of how all those post WTC attack hearings seemed to gloss over a lot of important areas worth exploration.

[Reter]

134. Imagine for one second if it's Rand vs. Hillary

If she attacks or even disagrees with him on this or the Patriot Act it will get interesting around here to say the least.