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progressoid

(50,773 posts)
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:17 AM May 2015

Dennis Hastert is a Democrat. (according to Fox/Yahoo/AP)

10 Things to Know for Friday

Your daily look at late-breaking news, upcoming events and the stories that will be talked about Friday:

1. EX-HOUSE SPEAKER DENNIS HASTERT ACCUSED OF PAYING HUSH MONEY

A federal indictment alleges that the 73-year-old Illinois Democrat paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars, seeking to conceal unspecified misconduct.

...http://news.yahoo.com/10-things-know-today-095924373.html


Also here:





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Dennis Hastert is a Democrat. (according to Fox/Yahoo/AP) (Original Post) progressoid May 2015 OP
Well how would you expect them to know the facts? Vinca May 2015 #1
Fox tried this with Mark Foley leftieNanner May 2015 #124
Yes, I remember when fox did that, saw the little banner running at the bottom of the screen showing EV_Ares May 2015 #133
And many news outlets frequently referred to Mark Foley as Tom Foley (D-WA) Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #135
Wow, that's a minor league error right there. cbayer May 2015 #2
New sails? hootinholler May 2015 #6
Nah, just had some seams redone. cbayer May 2015 #7
This is not an error. Scuba May 2015 #13
Are you saying the AP did this on purpose? cbayer May 2015 #15
I've seen many examples of Republicans with problems being labelled "Democrats". Never ... Scuba May 2015 #17
If it were Fox, I would find it easier to believe. But the AP? cbayer May 2015 #19
Or a Nedra Pickler. n/t Gormy Cuss May 2015 #97
Yes, I just learned about her in this thread. cbayer May 2015 #105
AP is not trustworthy at all . . FairWinds May 2015 #127
The same "mistake" was on Fox. Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #190
Fox picked up the original AP piece and published it without any change. cbayer Jun 2015 #192
I've seen the same thing madokie May 2015 #22
next step: SCantiGOP May 2015 #86
By today's definition of Democrat supported by corporate America, he was. Fearless May 2015 #184
It was deliberate. RiverNoord May 2015 #114
" 'political-party-identification-confusion' mental health disorder..." Jackpine Radical Jun 2015 #191
:-) RiverNoord Jun 2015 #193
LOL pocoloco May 2015 #33
No. I was assuming that is was probably an error, possibly made by an intern. cbayer May 2015 #37
A later version from AP omits reference to party pinboy3niner May 2015 #46
That's a different story but they did omit the party reference. cbayer May 2015 #49
"but they did omit the party reference" awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #157
Perhaps I am naive, but I do have a journalist in the family cbayer May 2015 #159
They may have honest people working for them here and there... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #161
My naiveté is balanced by your cynicism, lol. cbayer May 2015 #162
A fine pair we make, huh? awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #164
I've always thought so, my dear awoke. cbayer May 2015 #167
One of the things we have found with younger kids nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #170
The story about the "missing" students in Mexico cbayer May 2015 #171
I agree that they are likely dead nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #172
Unfortunately the seeds that were planted have not really born fruit. cbayer May 2015 #173
Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #174
I'm so glad you are on this. cbayer May 2015 #177
Unfortunately folks do not care nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #178
Yes, you are naive tabasco May 2015 #185
I don't believe all media is honest because my family member is. cbayer May 2015 #186
That intern makes that same error very frequently jmowreader May 2015 #107
Apparently the Associated Press doesn't fact check their news articles and shouldn't be considered think May 2015 #35
Agree. I have considered them reliable in the past, and I'm not convinced cbayer May 2015 #39
I got to wonder if the junior reporter nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #75
Exactly. If not intentional, it sure is sloppy. cbayer May 2015 #78
AP has been making those "mistakes" often though nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #79
I'm taking an online course on news and journalism right now. cbayer May 2015 #80
Why I left a note, a comment nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #81
Agreed, we've seen this ploy many times over the years dreamnightwind May 2015 #106
You think that "credibility is essential"? Wow. Just... mr blur May 2015 #110
It's been some 23 hours since it was posted... JHB May 2015 #116
Hah! They have corrected it! cbayer May 2015 #129
Backlash sometimes works nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #166
Yep. I am sure I'm not the only one that contacted them about it. cbayer May 2015 #169
I'm taking an online course on being a dentist. Goblinmonger May 2015 #155
Why the need for a nasty personal attack nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #165
! Kali May 2015 #136
So you are surprised at the statement nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #139
"the junior reporter" pintobean May 2015 #138
You are adorable. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #141
I bet junior is actually a trained journalist pintobean May 2015 #146
Nope. You would be wrong nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #148
Keep thinking they're a defunct grocery store.nt Eleanors38 May 2015 #151
Yes! Yes! Yes! librechik May 2015 #52
Do you include the AP in that group? cbayer May 2015 #54
Sadly yes. And I'm going to name names. Nedra Pickler and Ron Fournier librechik May 2015 #57
Great information. cbayer May 2015 #63
The news "aggregators" are owned by the wealthy...of course they are biased, and better at it. Fred Sanders May 2015 #55
Technically speaking AP is not a news aggregator nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #77
I don't think they hate... Whiskeytide May 2015 #59
not all of them are haters, you're right librechik May 2015 #61
I am a working journalist nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #76
yes, I guarantee they did it on purpose... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #156
Not an error at all. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #24
someone here asked how long it would take. mopinko May 2015 #27
iT'S SOP for Faux lark May 2015 #89
That's what I was going to say. This happens quite a bit. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #163
Definitely not. cui bono May 2015 #111
Wasn't Hastert a democrat eons ago? erlewyne May 2015 #117
We'll know when Michele Bachmann is found to do something illegal... cascadiance May 2015 #152
Was he a democrat... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #158
No it's definitely intentional! DawgHouse May 2015 #121
Not if you're business is propoganda. Volaris May 2015 #31
This story comes form the AP. Fox picked it up, but they are not the source. cbayer May 2015 #32
They are known for doing this. This isn't one or two mistakes. Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #50
Again, this is an AP article. cbayer May 2015 #53
AP is also biased towards Repubs and against Democrats. Boomerproud May 2015 #181
Meh. I'm not convinced at this point. cbayer May 2015 #183
No error - it's done deliberately very frequently. RiverNoord May 2015 #71
In this case, I think the AP loses credibility. cbayer May 2015 #73
Don't think it's an error George II May 2015 #120
This has happened too frequently to be a mistake. DCBob May 2015 #3
Same shit, different day. FOX always tries this. merrily May 2015 #4
It was an AP wire piece jberryhill May 2015 #11
And your point is? merrily May 2015 #18
Fox didn't make the change jberryhill May 2015 #20
Exactly. FOX should have made the change. Nothing obligates FOX to run an error from AP. merrily May 2015 #21
+1000 thank you heaven05 May 2015 #58
You're most welcome! merrily May 2015 #93
FOX has a habit of identifying Republicans as Democrats if they get into tblue37 May 2015 #5
That didn't take long... HereSince1628 May 2015 #8
Typical Fox. They have no clue. TheCowsCameHome May 2015 #9
They're always doing this, putting a D next to a Republican politician sakabatou May 2015 #10
So this means Josh Duggar is also a Democrat? n/t durablend May 2015 #12
FOX S.O.P. - They seem to do it EVERY time. Octafish May 2015 #14
I seem to remember Faux Snooze identifying former Idaho Sen. Larry Craig as a "D" bulloney May 2015 #25
^ lolol. well said!! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #51
Also Lamar Alexander, Ted Stevens, Mark Sanford, louis-t May 2015 #84
That would be Sadam Hussien (D-IQ) ToxMarz May 2015 #26
Bush's cousin, working at FOX, called the 2000 election for Bush deutsey May 2015 #47
they're experts at creating smoke to make everyone see fire: remember the first question MisterP May 2015 #91
Anyone have a compilation of these "mistakes"? Old DU had a graphic with several. Scuba May 2015 #16
see post #45 downthread...n/t annabanana May 2015 #65
Try this... MattSh May 2015 #74
It looks like the fox story is from the same AP hughee99 May 2015 #23
That might come as a surprise to him gollygee May 2015 #28
deliberate skewing of facts. fox is an evil entity. spanone May 2015 #29
I think someone here at DU actually SAID this would happen yesterday annabanana May 2015 #30
I saw that also. -none May 2015 #34
Yes, they did! Frank Cannon May 2015 #48
Here's one: arcane1 May 2015 #101
This might actually work for them. lpbk2713 May 2015 #36
Of course it will work LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #96
LOL. He paid 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN HUSH MONEY! Rex May 2015 #38
Sounds like some of it went to Fox and Yahoo. Eleanors38 May 2015 #150
Bhahahahaaa!! Rex May 2015 #180
Have any of those stalwarts of the 5th estate acknowledged their FU? Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #189
They did the same thing with some Republican party leader mountain grammy May 2015 #40
CNN is almost as bad, implying he's a Democrat..... sinkingfeeling May 2015 #41
The only party affiliation they named PowerToThePeople May 2015 #60
No. They are implying he is a Republican Ms. Toad May 2015 #140
The same Speaker of the House that had Tom Delay as Majority Leader....Was he a Democrat? INdemo May 2015 #42
They're cutting him loose. marble falls May 2015 #43
FFS deutsey May 2015 #44
Here we go again. Fox already perfected this technique: LeftinOH May 2015 #45
Thank You for the above...terrific proof of the "non Intential" slanting of news.. Stuart G May 2015 #56
Whoever does it, it always happens to be the Republicans treestar May 2015 #168
Had to be done on purpose. JEB May 2015 #62
Bad Headline malaise May 2015 #64
RW News Thespian2 May 2015 #66
They say he is a Democrat, you say he is a Republican, so there is no real consensus on which he is. GoneFishin May 2015 #67
Illinois has some of the worst corruption in the country. SpankMe May 2015 #68
yeah sure. read reply 45 Doctor_J May 2015 #82
Illinois is an equal opportunity corruption state strategery blunder May 2015 #175
and it still isn't fixed do'h... n/t PatrynXX May 2015 #69
How very Foxian. nt valerief May 2015 #70
They are all in it... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #160
They would've gotten someone like Stephanie Miller 47of74 May 2015 #187
Liberal Media Botany May 2015 #72
Then there's Rep. Tom Exterminator D-Lay Zambero May 2015 #83
dennis hastert always looked, to me, like a big fart waiting to happen. calimary May 2015 #85
Thirteen hours, still not corrected either site. johnnyreb May 2015 #87
Faux will run a corrected crawler across their screen. lpbk2713 May 2015 #92
Part of me wishes awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #88
Great comments... Flying Squirrel May 2015 #90
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2015 #94
Still not fixed! geardaddy May 2015 #95
Gee, when he was Speaker of the House, guess which party he belonged to? DFW May 2015 #98
on purpose i would bet samsingh May 2015 #99
Selective Memory? B Calm May 2015 #100
This has nothing to do with Fox or Yahoo. It's an AP article. DesMoinesDem May 2015 #102
They aren't required to run the AP piece verbatim. jeff47 May 2015 #103
not you but sure can tell Fox News fans from the ones that just follow it to get a migraine PatrynXX May 2015 #109
You want editors fired for an AP error? Everytime AP has an error all editors are fired? DesMoinesDem May 2015 #115
I'm pretty sure that's not true. Why would AP allow others to edit their articles? DesMoinesDem May 2015 #113
Every single article that says "the AP reported..." jeff47 May 2015 #143
Well obviously anyone can write their own articles. That is not what you claimed. DesMoinesDem May 2015 #145
Golly, if only there was a second paragraph in that post... jeff47 May 2015 #179
Just stop. Random editors can't edit AP articles and shouldn't. AP will correct their own errors DesMoinesDem May 2015 #182
That darn liberal meida is at it again. herding cats May 2015 #104
Still UN-corrected at ap.org at 20 hours johnnyreb May 2015 #108
On the bright side, now we know who the Associated Press associates with. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #112
Yes, but on the plus side ... left-of-center2012 May 2015 #118
Any surprise? Fox still occasionally and "mistakenly" calls our President "Barack Osama". George II May 2015 #119
How are they going to blame this on Obama? aint_no_life_nowhere May 2015 #122
And NBC simply avoided mentioning his party affiliation IDemo May 2015 #123
CORRECTED at ap.org and yahoo at May 29, 11:26 PM EDT johnnyreb May 2015 #125
Yay! Now it should read, progressoid May 2015 #142
Not the first time these sorriest balls have done this still_one May 2015 #126
Fox News, deathrind May 2015 #128
The article has been corrected. cbayer May 2015 #130
Lying Fox "News"? Enthusiast May 2015 #131
Another intern strikes rpannier May 2015 #132
I'm sure it was an accident.... blackspade May 2015 #134
GOPers tactic on federal indictment, lie. lonestarnot May 2015 #137
yahoo fixed it but Fox nope still there PatrynXX May 2015 #144
This article is on over 500 websites. Could you please explain to me why you are so concerned DesMoinesDem May 2015 #147
Obviously on purpose. Everyone knows who Hastert is and what party. McCamy Taylor May 2015 #149
So when someone says Hastert is a Dem you know the idiot watches Fux. L0oniX May 2015 #153
AP, Fox, Yahoo. Didn't anyone go to school around there? Eleanors38 May 2015 #154
Doing their best or better than their best . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #176
FOX is not a news channel. MSM nightly 'news' is censored. This should be the ''given''. YOHABLO May 2015 #188

Vinca

(51,165 posts)
1. Well how would you expect them to know the facts?
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:18 AM
May 2015

They're still covering Johnny Depp's dogs.

leftieNanner

(15,725 posts)
124. Fox tried this with Mark Foley
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:42 PM
May 2015

when he was drummed out of congress after his "activities" came to light. Pisses me off.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
133. Yes, I remember when fox did that, saw the little banner running at the bottom of the screen showing
Sat May 30, 2015, 07:59 AM
May 2015

Foley as a Democrat. By the way, it is way more clear now why Hastert was so easy on Republican Mark Foley.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
135. And many news outlets frequently referred to Mark Foley as Tom Foley (D-WA)
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:53 AM
May 2015

with no retractions.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
15. Are you saying the AP did this on purpose?
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:14 AM
May 2015

Not that they will respond, but I sent them an email this morning about it.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
17. I've seen many examples of Republicans with problems being labelled "Democrats". Never ...
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:16 AM
May 2015

... seen it happen the other way around.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
19. If it were Fox, I would find it easier to believe. But the AP?
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:18 AM
May 2015

I think it's just a rookie mistake, but I tend to me overly trusting when it comes to stuff like this.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
127. AP is not trustworthy at all . .
Sat May 30, 2015, 12:53 AM
May 2015

For example, they can cover the "controversy" over paid
sick leave without ever mentioning that 22 nations already have it.
That is not an accident.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. I've seen the same thing
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:45 AM
May 2015

and I won't believe it is not on purpose either. They know what they're doing thats for sure.

SCantiGOP

(14,297 posts)
86. next step:
Fri May 29, 2015, 11:05 AM
May 2015

Richard Nixon, the 37th President of the United States, was a Democrat who resigned from office in the wake of a scandal to avoid impeachment.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
114. It was deliberate.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:55 PM
May 2015

Seriously, if you can string together a coherent series of sentences describing a criminal proceeding against a former politician, then you can EASILY correctly identify the person's political party affiliation.

Did the author get his name wrong, the charges, the name of the Attorney General who is the head of the Justice Department, the date of indictment, the fact that Hastert was a former Speaker of the House? Nope. Just the political party he was a member of while he was a member of the House of Representatives. For over 30 years. It's almost an impossible mistake to make, assuming the author doesn't have some sort of 'political-party-identification-confusion' mental health disorder...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
191. " 'political-party-identification-confusion' mental health disorder..."
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:59 PM
Jun 2015

You may not realize it, but that's a pretty common disorder. Endemic at Fox, for example.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
37. No. I was assuming that is was probably an error, possibly made by an intern.
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:00 AM
May 2015

They have an email address for corrections.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
46. A later version from AP omits reference to party
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:21 AM
May 2015
1. HASTERT INDICTMENT OFFERS FEW CLUES

Allegations that the former U.S. house speaker agreed to pay a person millions in hush money does not reveal what he did wrong.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/1/10_THINGS_TO_KNOW_TODAY?SITE=AP

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
49. That's a different story but they did omit the party reference.
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:23 AM
May 2015

It remains in the original.

FWIW, there is only one comment and it is about the incorrect party reference.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8e83c857de894081b2a6a61a0e82e5ef/10-things-know-today

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
157. "but they did omit the party reference"
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:04 PM
May 2015

and again by design. They got the lie out there, didn't bother with a retraction, and if called upon it they can say "look, we took the word 'democrat' out".

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
159. Perhaps I am naive, but I do have a journalist in the family
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:18 PM
May 2015

and I know that she is scrupulously honest in her reporting.

They did post a retraction, FWIW. I posted a link to it today.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
161. They may have honest people working for them here and there...
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:22 PM
May 2015

but that doesn't mean the organization itself isn't smellier than 3 year old Limberger. I know good cops, too.

on edit: I may be a bit cynical, but every time I think I am being too cynical something happens to prove it is warranted.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
162. My naiveté is balanced by your cynicism, lol.
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:26 PM
May 2015

I know that many sources are highly biased and I am very, very skeptical of outlets like fox and breitbart and others.

But I never saw the AP in that light. I could be wrong, of course, but they take such a risk with their credibility when they do something like this, whether it was on purpose or mistake.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
170. One of the things we have found with younger kids
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:03 PM
May 2015

I am getting up there in years, so yes, kids... is that some of the skills they need are not being passed on.

Also, at times they do not do any even basic research on a story.

We have been covering the 43 missing students in Mexico, ok, I have a masters in Mexican History... I still find myself doing a lot of research and fact checking. In fact, I just walked in from in front of the Mexican Consulate in San Diego. I love my sources, they are good sources. but some of what they told me, will require me to spend a few quality hours researching to find the background.

One of the adages from the Reagan WH should also apply to Journalism... "trust but verify."

Edit, they are there for a hunger strike that started last night. The main event will likely be on Monday.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
171. The story about the "missing" students in Mexico
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:09 PM
May 2015

is even more difficult because of the amount of corruption, deception and coverup around the story. I'm not sure it's possible for anyone to get an accurate accounting of what happened here. However, in mexico there is a version that is believed by most people.

(BTW, I put missing in quotes, because they are most certainly very dead and not just missing).

My daughter is one of the few that has actually obtained a masters in journalism. I believe she has the skill set and integrity needed to be a top notch journalist.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
172. I agree that they are likely dead
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:17 PM
May 2015

and the degree helps, but a lot of this is research, research, research and being honest to the story. Which is one thing we have at times found lacking with younger kids. On edit, I think a good discussion of what ails us is needed.

Back to Mexico: The movement still refers to them as missing, and the government tried to close the case, but has not done such.

A story we did locally on poverty took over 4 weeks to research. We went though census data, county data, talked to people, and most organizations do not want to spend that time any more.

My view of the story in Mexico... it moved beyond Ayotzinapa a while ago. A common saying in the streets is "They buried us, but they did not know we were seeds." This mess has led to a not so low grade fever anymore, but more of a high temp. I am missing metaphors, I know.

We might get a good ol' fashioned civil war out of this. And quite a bit is due to our own policies vis a vis Mexico. It is not just NAFTA (though that is a large part of it), but the reforms that they have done in the energy sector, education, communications infrastructure, labor. The war on drugs does not help, and then there is The Merida Plan \initiative. You will see it referred by both terms in US Press and in the Mexican press.

The strikes in San Quintin, which are part of the whole symptoms, are part of it as well... and that is moving to the rest of the rural areas. Then you have the war on drugs, which is a civil war of sorts, and the Federal Government does not control quite a bit of the country side, at times large population centers.



cbayer

(146,218 posts)
173. Unfortunately the seeds that were planted have not really born fruit.
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015

It looked hopeful for a while, but the day to day issues that face most mexicans keep them from organizing and acting in a way that would really change things.

Currently the issues with the cartels are front and center and the people are reluctant to not support the government.

But mexico has a splendid history of fighting back against oppression of all kinds and I remain hopeful that they will do it again.

The complicit role of the US is another subject and one that I find most people here would prefer to dismiss.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
174. Yup
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:28 PM
May 2015

Now I know NOW who Nestora Salgado is... one of the reasons for the hunger strike... but I need to do a lot more research into her case.

The autodefensas are a hot subject in Mexico. This is where fighting back is already starting IMHO, why the feds are going from friendly, or at least tolerant of them, to openly hostile.

They also mentioned Mireles, who I have heard off, but as you can tell, will not write a story until I wrap my head around who is who in this.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
177. I'm so glad you are on this.
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:37 PM
May 2015

For a time I was posting stories about Mexico, but they received very, very little attention.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
178. Unfortunately folks do not care
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:42 PM
May 2015

and they will not, if worst case, there is a revolution, they nationalize all energy (again) and SDG&E will have to suddenly build a lot of green energy facilities here, for example.

In San Diego we have a small, but committed, activist group that is demonstrating at the Consulate regularly. It is a local story, but the local press mostly ignores it. Never mind that when they get large crowds, they disrupt traffic in a touristy area of downtown.

Go figure

This hunger strike might get PBS and Al Jazeera on Monday, and I will be there on Monday too.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
185. Yes, you are naive
Sun May 31, 2015, 08:43 AM
May 2015

if you believe all media is honest because your family member is.

That is incredibly naive.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
186. I don't believe all media is honest because my family member is.
Sun May 31, 2015, 08:46 AM
May 2015

I never said that.

jmowreader

(51,563 posts)
107. That intern makes that same error very frequently
Fri May 29, 2015, 04:55 PM
May 2015

Think back to the Bush maladministration...every time a Republican fucked up, Fox "News" labeled him or her a Democrat. Every single time.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
35. Apparently the Associated Press doesn't fact check their news articles and shouldn't be considered
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:59 AM
May 2015

a reliable source....

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
39. Agree. I have considered them reliable in the past, and I'm not convinced
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:01 AM
May 2015

that they did this on purpose.

If this is just a fact checking error, that is really lame.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
75. I got to wonder if the junior reporter
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:40 AM
May 2015

is a Fox News viewer. But the editor should have caught it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
79. AP has been making those "mistakes" often though
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:13 AM
May 2015

US journalism is extremely compromised. Independent media, and a lot of it is really bad...stories I could tell about one particular outlet people here quote often and trust...but some of it is really, really good. Let's just say this outlet posts a story I check it with other places, like I do with all of 'em. If I trust a source, more than if I do not actually...ergo, MSNBC will get checked three to four times, fox half as much. I know MSNBC is telling me what I want to hear.



If I make a mistake, and we all do, I correct it. Many a times it is the simple wording of things. I always go through a piece right after I post it. Some things do not jump out until then. It is how my mind works. Factual errors are always identified. Corrections should. This is a major oopsie.

I do not expect the AP to identify it. They set the standard that you should.

Your tell this was a purposeful error is...they removed party affiliation after they were caught. AP standard, I could quote it chapter and verse, got the book in the IPAD, says you identify the party, when available, in political stories. Acceptable ways: Joe Blow, democrat from....Joe blow, Republican from. If in office. Joe Blow (D-CA) gets tricky when you are talking state, since most people expect Joe Blow, with that, to be a Senator from California. House Joe Blow (D-51-CA). AD-85- R would be assembly district. Ward -5 for a city, or Council District 2 and of course state senate.


Even when writing a story about a state senator, I still spell that out because many people default to the U.S. Senate. It's not like I have to...but a few of my readers asked for clarity...yup, I am on a first name basis with more than a few. As they said, if I write about Joel Anderson, (quite the slime ball) they know he is not a U.S. Senator, but their mind wants to go there, and a few get sick just thinking about it.

And I think time to start work...and not with this story.

But this is not a mistake.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
80. I'm taking an online course on news and journalism right now.
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:18 AM
May 2015

I'm a pretty good fact checker and think credibility is essential. The course is teaching me even more ways of getting to the bottom of a story.

I know this is your strong suit and I am happy to be learning more about it.

This story has been up for over 12 hours and they have not corrected it. That's a bad sign.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
110. You think that "credibility is essential"? Wow. Just...
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:49 PM
May 2015

When you get back to the course, look up "irony". Get to the bottom of that one.

JHB

(37,450 posts)
116. It's been some 23 hours since it was posted...
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:10 PM
May 2015

...still no correction.

However, a more recent article (~ a half hour ago, and a full article with identified reporters, not just a AP-generic blurb in a "top 10" list) correctly identifies him as a Republican.

AP source: Hastert paid to conceal claims of sexual abuse
By ERIC TUCKER and MICHAEL TARM
May. 29, 2015 8:33 PM EDT

CHICAGO (AP) — Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert paid hush money to conceal claims that the Illinois Republican sexually molested someone decades ago, a person familiar with the allegations said Friday.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a6bf349f621949edb2ddb1a5723d79c9/hastert-indictment-offers-few-clues-about-alleged

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
129. Hah! They have corrected it!
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:35 AM
May 2015
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8e83c857de894081b2a6a61a0e82e5ef/10-things-know-today
In a story May 28 about former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert being indicted, The Associated Press misidentified his party affiliation. He is a Republican, not a Democrat.

A corrected version of the story is below:

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
169. Yep. I am sure I'm not the only one that contacted them about it.
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:00 PM
May 2015

However this happened, it damages their credibility, imo.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
155. I'm taking an online course on being a dentist.
Sat May 30, 2015, 02:51 PM
May 2015

I've watched several videos already. Should be ready to do a root canal any time now.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
165. Why the need for a nasty personal attack
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:55 PM
May 2015

not that I would report or alert on this, since it really does not work to alert on this site. But seriously dude.

And by the way, there ARE ONLINE degrees in some medical fields already... Which include on hands work at some of the same teaching hospitals that physical facilities use.

Here you go

http://www.kaplanuniversity.edu/nursing.aspx

Even rankings

http://www.usnews.com/education/online-education/nursing/rankings

And for dentistry

http://dentistry.usc.edu/programs/online-programs/

http://dentaldegree.org/

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
139. So you are surprised at the statement
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:11 AM
May 2015

Or that U.S. Journalism is extremely compromised? Here is more, freedom of the press keeps degrading in the United States, which is part of the damn problem.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
146. I bet junior is actually a trained journalist
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:14 PM
May 2015

with a degree in journalism. I would think that would be a requirement at the AP.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
148. Nope. You would be wrong
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:29 PM
May 2015

Many working journalist did not go to journalism school, but have English, history, political science degrees. Some come from law, a few from law enforcement. The skills to find crap are the same whether you are a trained historian, a lawyer, or a reporter.

Yes, some folks go and get a degree in journalism, but you would be shocked to learn how much of this is actually on the job training with later education in seminars etcetera.

And yes job requirements tend to read journalism or equivalent experience.

And things like this very procedural story are indeed written by the junior staff at most news rooms, including the AP, and checked by the assignment editor. At times by the area editor, in this case politics beat, editor.

Why at times breaking news has a paragraph and developing. Reporters might know more, but there are the fact checkers and editors who have to go through it. Which is why, when people tried to burn the central door of the national palace in Mexico City we were able to scoop the big boys. I got sources in Mexico City and we saw it on the stream. So a few tweets we had the same facts the AP and CNN ran with 12 or so hours later, never mind they had... Photogs and camera people at the zocalo.

Though they did get better photos.

We don't have those many layers, which is both good and bad. We can break faster, but damn it we have to be damn sure of the facts.

Of course we do a lot of policy, which is far from breaking news. This beat, as it were, is not done by junior reporters either.

librechik

(30,790 posts)
52. Yes! Yes! Yes!
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:28 AM
May 2015

and thanks for sending the email. I'm a former journalist, and my blood pressure just shot up into the furious range. Yes, all three of them are NOTHING BUT PAID PROPAGANDA! And they do it because they hate Democrats.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
54. Do you include the AP in that group?
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:35 AM
May 2015

They use a lot of independent journalists. My daughter does work for them. I haven't gotten the message that they hate democrats.

I tend to think this is just lazy fact checking and am also incensed by this kind of journalism. It really hurts their credibility.

librechik

(30,790 posts)
57. Sadly yes. And I'm going to name names. Nedra Pickler and Ron Fournier
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:52 AM
May 2015

are paid Republican stooges and they alone are responsible for misleading the public on many issues that needed good reporters instead of credulous yes-men. Yes, people died because of them. The owners these people work for are ruthless partisans who spend millions to protect their good reputation, and acquired decades ago, now used to convince people that eternal war is honorable and torture should be overlooked.

I'm sorry if this is news to your daughter, congrats on her getting a great job, seriously! I hope she can make change from the inside. I too worked many years for a highly trustworthy organization, cbayer, a "PBS News Show". Gradually, as an insider and fact-checker, I discovered they too are in utter thrall to the Republican Military Industrial Complex. So is the AP. It is not lazy fact checking. It happens far too often, and only in a certain context, i.e., to protect their own.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
63. Great information.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:01 AM
May 2015

I see that Pickler has some really questionable events in her history, including sloppy journalism.

Fournier hasn't been at the AP for five years, but it appears that he really was instrumental in moving the AP to the right while he was there.

My daughter is a freelancer and takes what she can get. I brought her up because I haven't gotten any sense from her that the AP is partisan.

Well, this hurts their credibility whether this was intentional or not.

Interesting insights on the PBS show. I've heard others with negative reports, although I'm not convinced that the problems you encountered are pervasive at PBS.

Thanks for your work. We have gotten way to lax about our journalistic standards, as can be seen everyday on this site. If it's on the internet, it must be true. We have got to teach our children to be fanatical fact checkers.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
55. The news "aggregators" are owned by the wealthy...of course they are biased, and better at it.
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:44 AM
May 2015
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
77. Technically speaking AP is not a news aggregator
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:46 AM
May 2015

like CNS, city News Service, they have field reporters everywhere.

But the political beat can be ahem, interesting. The local guy who works at the Court, for CNS, he's a nice enough guy, but do not ask any depth into his reporting. This is my major gripe. I can spend hours, days getting background and all that...many are so busy they are done in 10 minutes.

Whiskeytide

(4,512 posts)
59. I don't think they hate...
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:55 AM
May 2015

... democrats. I just think they like and need their jobs, and keeping them requires them to play ball with the suits and wealthy benefactors.

librechik

(30,790 posts)
61. not all of them are haters, you're right
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:57 AM
May 2015

But their bosses do and put their money where their hate is.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
156. yes, I guarantee they did it on purpose...
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:01 PM
May 2015

it happens to frequently to not be done by design. We don't have media in this country- we have a propaganda apparatus.

mopinko

(71,912 posts)
27. someone here asked how long it would take.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:51 AM
May 2015

no, it is not a "error". they do it every.damned.time.

lark

(24,300 posts)
89. iT'S SOP for Faux
Fri May 29, 2015, 12:43 PM
May 2015

Just about every time a Repug is caught doing something illegal, they show him/her to be a Dem. It's not an error, it's done on purpose to confuse the sheeple and because it works.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
163. That's what I was going to say. This happens quite a bit.
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:35 PM
May 2015

Once, sure, honest mistake. But they pull this crap regularly.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
117. Wasn't Hastert a democrat eons ago?
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:29 PM
May 2015

Like back in the sixties?

I have no resources, but I thought he was
a wrestling coach and belonged to the democratic
party.




 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
152. We'll know when Michele Bachmann is found to do something illegal...
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:54 PM
May 2015

... they'll try to call her a Democrat too, since she used to be one as well and campaigned for Jimmy Carter. Perhaps Faux News will try to find a way to link Jimmy Carter to her wrongdoing too!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
158. Was he a democrat...
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:11 PM
May 2015

when he was speaker of the house? No, so it doesn't matter what he was in the 60's. They referred to him as SOH and democrat in the same sentence.

Volaris

(10,627 posts)
31. Not if you're business is propoganda.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:56 AM
May 2015

If you're Fox, that's intentional, and therefore, top of the line.
and nobody does it better.

Boomerproud

(8,437 posts)
181. AP is also biased towards Repubs and against Democrats.
Sat May 30, 2015, 08:05 PM
May 2015

I don"t care who the source is-it's a lie and they thought they could get away with it. In a lot of quarters they will.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
183. Meh. I'm not convinced at this point.
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:13 PM
May 2015

I've also read over and over how NPR is a republican tool.

I'm just not buying it.

Not everyone is our enemy.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
71. No error - it's done deliberately very frequently.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:28 AM
May 2015

Happens frequently. Democrats become Republicans when the reporting is favorable and Republicans become Democrats when the reporting is unfavorable.

Very effective propaganda. To call it despicable is to state the obvious - unfortunately, publications can just say 'oops' and maybe publish a correction a few days later in the small print 'nobody reads this' corrections section.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
73. In this case, I think the AP loses credibility.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:33 AM
May 2015

I expect this kind of thing from some news organizations, but I think the AP tries to present itself as neutral.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
3. This has happened too frequently to be a mistake.
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:20 AM
May 2015

They should be fined for this. It can have a big impact on viewers who are uninformed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. Exactly. FOX should have made the change. Nothing obligates FOX to run an error from AP.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:40 AM
May 2015

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. FOX S.O.P. - They seem to do it EVERY time.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:14 AM
May 2015


Disinformation Science 101: Be first to lie, it will stick in the minds of a surprisingly large percentage who hear it. Who can forget Saddam Hussein and Iraq attacking the USA on September 11?

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
25. I seem to remember Faux Snooze identifying former Idaho Sen. Larry Craig as a "D"
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:50 AM
May 2015

during his airport restroom "wide stance" sex scandal. I think they did the same on John McCain when he was having one of his maverick moments and didn't fall in line with Republican talking points a few years ago.

If integrity and credibility were cotton, you couldn't get enough from Faux Snooze to make a T-shirt for a piss ant!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
51. ^ lolol. well said!!
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:24 AM
May 2015

I feel the same way about Yahoo, too.


If AP made the error first, agencies picking up should be checking anyway. Should be protocol---for a responsible agency, anyway.

louis-t

(23,742 posts)
84. Also Lamar Alexander, Ted Stevens, Mark Sanford,
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

Mark Foley and Arlen Specter when he was a Republican, have all been identified by fox as Dems when it suited them.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
47. Bush's cousin, working at FOX, called the 2000 election for Bush
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:21 AM
May 2015

in the early morning hours, which went on to create the false impression that the election dispute had been resolved.

A mere coincidence, I'm sure.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
91. they're experts at creating smoke to make everyone see fire: remember the first question
Fri May 29, 2015, 12:59 PM
May 2015

they ever-so-innocently asked about the GermanWings pilot? the first thing the police looked for? whether he was Muslimming in secret; so if after every big disaster the first thing they say was "terrorism is not involved" that just associates every rot-brained mass murderer and every creepy white supremacist bomber and every explosion caused by gross negligence and greed with Those Islamoids Over There

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
28. That might come as a surprise to him
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:51 AM
May 2015

But I imagine they're hoping their viewership doesn't know any better.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
30. I think someone here at DU actually SAID this would happen yesterday
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:53 AM
May 2015

when the news first broke...

-none

(1,884 posts)
34. I saw that also.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:58 AM
May 2015

They were not guessing at all. It is a forgone conclusion, that has happened many times already.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
48. Yes, they did!
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:23 AM
May 2015

I wish I could find the link to the thread. I, too, was waiting for it to happen, and sure enough, the "liberal" media didn't disappoint.

lpbk2713

(43,201 posts)
36. This might actually work for them.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:59 AM
May 2015



There are a certain number of FauxBots who take anything they say as gospel.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,383 posts)
96. Of course it will work
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:11 PM
May 2015

That's why they've done it before and will do it again.

Those "FauxBots" are ingnorant idiots. They don't know anything about politics or politicians much at all, only what Faux News tells them. Even if later, a correction is made (I've never seen that happen) the actual vitriol and lies have been soaked up by their hate sponge minds. Its death by a thousand knives. A few misrepresentations here...a few overblown stories there...a few non-reported stories here...and even simply the inflections and wording of how they introduce and describe some on-going story. All these little things add up over years of being glued to Faux News until they evolve into some giant blob of hate that has no basis in fact as to why it is so hateful, only that it knows it hates with a passion....anything Democrat...or liberal...or progressive..or social...or empathetic...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. LOL. He paid 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN HUSH MONEY!
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:01 AM
May 2015

Wow, even when they lie...they lie and lie and lie.

Then again Foxnews is only around to prop up a dying breed...fuck them all I hate every last one of them!

Pathetic assholes.

mountain grammy

(27,343 posts)
40. They did the same thing with some Republican party leader
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:02 AM
May 2015

in a red state who was caught with his pants down. Their viewers hear the word "Democrat" and that's enough for their small brains, even the Illinois viewers, who probably just think, well I couldn't have voted for him, he's a crooked Democrat. We're talking very tiny
minds here,

sinkingfeeling

(53,147 posts)
41. CNN is almost as bad, implying he's a Democrat.....
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:10 AM
May 2015

"Hastert, 73, served as House speaker from 1999 until 2007, when Democrats retook the House. "

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/dennis-hastert-indictment/

Funny, he was the longest-serving Republican House Speaker in history!

Ms. Toad

(35,590 posts)
140. No. They are implying he is a Republican
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015

"until 2007, when Democrats retook the House." You can't retake something if you already possess it => Republicans (or at least something other than Democrats possessed it before 2007.

(It would be better if they expressly identified him as Republican - this is the second major article I've read which implies his party affiliation rather than stating it outright.)

INdemo

(7,020 posts)
42. The same Speaker of the House that had Tom Delay as Majority Leader....Was he a Democrat?
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:14 AM
May 2015

No but he too is/was a crook

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
56. Thank You for the above...terrific proof of the "non Intential" slanting of news..
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:49 AM
May 2015

My guess is the AP story is not a mistake..was done on purpose for just a while, a correction will be made, but the first impression will already be made on some. . And the writer and editor know it. First impressions, very important...If they are lies, well that is the way politics is, that is the way the AP has become..

Too big a detail for anyone writing this to not know the truth. I really hate to say that about AP, but must be true in my opinion. Like calling Obama Vice - President..or George Washington ...3rd President..or Lincoln presided over World War One..

... that is my point..

treestar

(82,383 posts)
168. Whoever does it, it always happens to be the Republicans
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:00 PM
May 2015

who get into trouble around the time it comes out that they do it to.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
62. Had to be done on purpose.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:01 AM
May 2015

Everybody remembers the liar steeped in corruption and bigotry from the Clinton impeachment days and of course his willful ignorance in the Foley intern abuse scandal. Hastert reeks Republican. How could you not notice.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
67. They say he is a Democrat, you say he is a Republican, so there is no real consensus on which he is.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:11 AM
May 2015


They are such lying sacks of shit.

SpankMe

(3,289 posts)
68. Illinois has some of the worst corruption in the country.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:17 AM
May 2015

This particularly true of Chicago. And a vast majority of those corrupt politicians have been Democrats. Almost all, in fact. So, I think it's possible that it was an inadvertent error by the first reporting agency that propagated to the others. (Inadvertent based on the expectation that a corrupt Illinois politician must be a Democrat because that has been the trend for decades.) It was a probably a brain fart.

strategery blunder

(4,225 posts)
175. Illinois is an equal opportunity corruption state
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:30 PM
May 2015

I lived there when former Gov. George Ryan (R) was convicted on various corruption charges and sent to prison.

Of course it's easier to remember Blagojevich (D) because that was both more recent and more brazen (how stupid do you have to be to try to sell a Senate seat appointment?).

So, if I'm not mistaken (and I might be...haven't lived in the state since 2005), 2 of the 4 most recent governors (excluding the current Gov. Rauner) have been convicted of corruption charges, one D and one R. It might even be 2 of the most recent 3 but I'm not sure of that (the only other gov I remember is Quinn, but since I've been out of state I might've missed one).

I do expect Rauner will eventually be convicted for some form of corruption as well.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
160. They are all in it...
Sat May 30, 2015, 03:21 PM
May 2015

sure, stations like MSNBC allow Rachel to remain on the air, but that is just to give the illusion that there is options out there. If MSNBC were truly a liberal station, Scar and his sycophant wouldn't still be on them.

Zambero

(9,775 posts)
83. Then there's Rep. Tom Exterminator D-Lay
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:20 AM
May 2015

The possibilities are endless. At any rate, "honest" mistakes are bound to happen!

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
87. Thirteen hours, still not corrected either site.
Fri May 29, 2015, 11:30 AM
May 2015

The FIRST item in their list of Things To KNOW......... ..............................

lpbk2713

(43,201 posts)
92. Faux will run a corrected crawler across their screen.
Fri May 29, 2015, 01:03 PM
May 2015



Once.

At high speed.

About 4:30 in the morning.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
90. Great comments...
Fri May 29, 2015, 12:50 PM
May 2015

S
5 hours ago
Shame on the AP for a deliberate propaganda lie. Hastert is a Republican. Sad day for America when AP has taken to falsifying the news, sinking as low as Fox Republican Propaganda, Inc. Totally unethical and pathetic,

Johnnie
4 hours ago
Yahoo are licking and pandering to the right and doing everything to avoid agitating the dwindling wingers base. Hastert is a 'legendary' REPUBLICAN who was two heart-beat away from Presidency under W. Bush.

LeeB
3 hours ago
Even I know he's a REPUBLICAN and this still isn't fixed. I've noticed the Yahoo Insider hasn't been showing up. now I know why... smh

Jon
2 hours ago
Hastert is a REPUBLICAN, and a traitor criminal to boot. The republican criminal organization.

smtpgirl
1 hour ago
Shocker, yahoo & mind programming channel picked up the same AP feed to give the dumbed down masses they pander too. Knowing full well that hastert is a thieving lying republican turd.

T
3 hours ago
Yahoo & AP "news" specialize in dissembling - as long as it promotes their right-wing agenda and the Republican Party.

How long does it take you to correct such an egregious error, know that Hastert is a REPUBLICAN!

James
6 hours ago
What is this, Fox News? Hastert is a REPUBLICAN.

LeeB
3 hours ago
Yahoo News has often been a Fox News wannabe but this is rather low for even them.

Lawrence S
14 hours ago
DENNIS HASTERT Illinois Democrat, Nope Republican.

John
3 hours ago
11th thing to know: headline/news writers are often caught between texting and working.

If Hastert is a Democrat, I'm a Peregrine falcon.

Tony
1 hour ago
Why does the 'Liberal Media' always label scandalous Republicans as "Democrats??

DFW

(56,748 posts)
98. Gee, when he was Speaker of the House, guess which party he belonged to?
Fri May 29, 2015, 02:54 PM
May 2015

One hint: it wasn't the Democrats.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
102. This has nothing to do with Fox or Yahoo. It's an AP article.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:14 PM
May 2015

It will be on hundreds of different websites. Blame AP. It's amazing that people here will see an AP article on some Fox affiliate and then blame FOX News. I guess ignorance is bliss when it allows you to blame something you hate.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
103. They aren't required to run the AP piece verbatim.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:24 PM
May 2015

Each group publishing the story have the option of correcting AP's error. None of them did.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
109. not you but sure can tell Fox News fans from the ones that just follow it to get a migraine
Fri May 29, 2015, 06:48 PM
May 2015

do'h... both editors at yahoo and Fox whatever your fired

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
115. You want editors fired for an AP error? Everytime AP has an error all editors are fired?
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:05 PM
May 2015

This article is on over 500 websites. That's a lot of editors to fire. And this won't be the only error made. You want hundreds of editors fired every week. LOL.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
113. I'm pretty sure that's not true. Why would AP allow others to edit their articles?
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:54 PM
May 2015

Do you have any proof this is true?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
143. Every single article that says "the AP reported..."
Sat May 30, 2015, 12:29 PM
May 2015

Just 'cause the AP puts out the article doesn't mean you have to use the AP article.

Also, the AP edits their articles in order to provide a worthwhile service to their customers. Being able to buy an already-edited article is a lot more valuable than buying an article you then have to edit. It doesn't mean you can't edit the article again, and if the AP objected to correcting an obvious error, that would be a pretty big problem for the AP.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
145. Well obviously anyone can write their own articles. That is not what you claimed.
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:12 PM
May 2015

You have claimed that "Each group publishing the story have the option of correcting AP's error" and "It doesn't mean you can't edit the article again". That is simply not true. Why are you repeating this lie? If you believe it is true then please provide proof. It would be idiotic if AP allowed anyone to just edit their articles. That makes no sense at all.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
179. Golly, if only there was a second paragraph in that post...
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:11 PM
May 2015
It would be idiotic if AP allowed anyone to just edit their articles. That makes no sense at all.

Yeah, it makes so much more sense for AP to fight tooth and nail to call Hastert a Democrat.

Even if AP has a "no editing" clause in their contract with these newspapers, do you really think the AP is gonna try to enforce that in this case?
 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
182. Just stop. Random editors can't edit AP articles and shouldn't. AP will correct their own errors
Sat May 30, 2015, 08:45 PM
May 2015

and issue a correction.

herding cats

(19,619 posts)
104. That darn liberal meida is at it again.
Fri May 29, 2015, 03:57 PM
May 2015

I wonder what this country would be like without them?

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
122. How are they going to blame this on Obama?
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:25 PM
May 2015

I imagine some creative writers are busy at work. I wonder if Obama was living in Illinois when the alleged child molestation occurred and he was sending out evil vibes. Donald Trump has hired a team of investigators to look further into this.

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
125. CORRECTED at ap.org and yahoo at May 29, 11:26 PM EDT
Fri May 29, 2015, 11:28 PM
May 2015

(Corrected in the dark of night (but still not corrected at fox))

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/1/10_THINGS_TO_KNOW_FRIDAY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

In a story May 28 about former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert being indicted, The Associated Press misidentified his party affiliation. He is a Republican, not a Democrat.

A corrected version of the story is below:

10 Things to Know for Friday

10 Things to Know for Friday

By The Associated Press

Your daily look at late-breaking news, upcoming events and the stories that will be talked about Friday:

1. EX-HOUSE SPEAKER DENNIS HASTERT ACCUSED OF PAYING HUSH MONEY

A federal indictment alleges that the 73-year-old Illinois Republican paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars, seeking to conceal unspecified misconduct.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
128. Fox News,
Sat May 30, 2015, 02:00 AM
May 2015

Repeatedly show Mark Foley and Mark Sanford as being from the Democratic Party as well when their scandals broke out. So this is nothing new.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
130. The article has been corrected.
Sat May 30, 2015, 04:36 AM
May 2015
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8e83c857de894081b2a6a61a0e82e5ef/10-things-know-today
In a story May 28 about former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert being indicted, The Associated Press misidentified his party affiliation. He is a Republican, not a Democrat.

A corrected version of the story is below:

rpannier

(24,586 posts)
132. Another intern strikes
Sat May 30, 2015, 07:25 AM
May 2015

I think that's their answer every time this happens
Some flunky, intern is responsible

I guess faux spews has no supervisor to check these things

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
147. This article is on over 500 websites. Could you please explain to me why you are so concerned
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:14 PM
May 2015

about Yahoo and some random Fox affiliate in Phoenix? What about the hundreds of other sites? You know a Phoenix Fox affiliate has absolutely no connection to Fox News, right?

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
188. FOX is not a news channel. MSM nightly 'news' is censored. This should be the ''given''.
Sun May 31, 2015, 07:59 PM
May 2015

FOX is a propaganda machine of the Right Wing GOP of this country. So everything they ''report'' is to create and put forth disinformation. They're scum and whores to the money machine. Do you expect anything less from them?

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