Thu May 28, 2015, 02:53 AM
Lagom (26 posts)
Online database 'exposes' pro-Palestinian college students in bid to block future jobs
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.658325?
A new website is publicizing the identities of pro-Palestinian student activists to prevent them from getting jobs after they graduate from college. But the website is keeping its own backers’ identity a secret. “It is your duty to ensure that today’s radicals are not tomorrow’s employees,” a female narrator intones in a slick video posted to the website’s YouTube account. Called Canary Mission, the site has posted profiles of dozens of students and recent graduates, alongside those of well-known activists like Omar Barghouti, founder of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. Some of the students are active in Students for Justice in Palestine; others were involved in recent pro-BDS resolutions at campuses in California. Many of them have relatively thin activist résumés. “The focus on young people and students is an effort to try to tell people that there will be a price for you taking a political position,” said Ali Abunimah, founder of the pro-Palestinian website The Electronic Intifada. “It’s an effort to punish and deter people from standing up for what they believe.” Daniel Pipes, president of the Middle East Forum, defended the tactic as a way of forcing people to understand the seriousness of their political stands. snip See also http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/27/website-targets-pro-palestinian-students-harm-job-prospects
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Lagom | May 2015 | OP |
Scootaloo | May 2015 | #1 | |
BlueMTexpat | May 2015 | #10 | |
closeupready | May 2015 | #25 | |
Post removed | May 2015 | #2 | |
CBGLuthier | May 2015 | #4 | |
Lagom | May 2015 | #5 | |
nxylas | May 2015 | #9 | |
Oktober | May 2015 | #14 | |
nxylas | May 2015 | #24 | |
Oktober | May 2015 | #29 | |
daredtowork | May 2015 | #3 | |
peecoolyour | May 2015 | #6 | |
AngryAmish | May 2015 | #18 | |
starroute | May 2015 | #19 | |
AngryAmish | May 2015 | #21 | |
starroute | May 2015 | #22 | |
AngryAmish | May 2015 | #23 | |
closeupready | May 2015 | #27 | |
DetlefK | May 2015 | #7 | |
Jesus Malverde | May 2015 | #12 | |
spinbaby | May 2015 | #13 | |
Unknown Beatle | May 2015 | #8 | |
azurnoir | May 2015 | #11 | |
okaawhatever | May 2015 | #15 | |
Scuba | May 2015 | #16 | |
dembotoz | May 2015 | #17 | |
starroute | May 2015 | #20 | |
closeupready | May 2015 | #26 | |
Scurrilous | May 2015 | #28 |
Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:01 AM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
1. That it is endorsed by Daniel Pipes is kind of all you need to know
Also endorsed by a few posters on DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134103667 ...interestingly i did not know that that OP got hidden. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #1)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:43 AM
BlueMTexpat (15,210 posts)
10. Absolutely. eom
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #1)
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:12 PM
closeupready (29,503 posts)
25. +1. Probably Pamela Geller too.
Response to Lagom (Original post)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #2)
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:15 AM
CBGLuthier (12,723 posts)
4. Pro Palestinian means anti semite?
What an enlightened viewpoint.
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Response to Post removed (Reply #2)
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:19 AM
Lagom (26 posts)
5. calling someone "anti-semitic" who is simply against the atrocities in Gaza, etc is an old canard
It is designed to introduce a chilling effect factor, a cutting off of debate, to instill fear of reprisal from 3rd-parties, etc.
And, I also think it far more likely that scum like the Koch brothers would make a website like this to punish employment prospects for progressive activists, than the other way around. Right-wing ideologists who are also business owners, especially smaller firms, are far far more likely to put their anti-left bias ahead of their company than left-leaning people are, IMHO. |
Response to Lagom (Reply #5)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:36 AM
nxylas (6,440 posts)
9. And yes, I would oppose a website designed to stop Republicans from getting jobs
To punish people for their opinions is morally wrong, even when they hold views that I disagree with. Interesting that "post hidden" above seems to think otherwise.
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Response to nxylas (Reply #9)
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:01 AM
Oktober (1,488 posts)
14. Ridiculous...
Would you hire a NAMBLA member or a known KKK participant?
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Response to Oktober (Reply #14)
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:06 PM
nxylas (6,440 posts)
24. Lynchings and child abuse are not considered protected speech under the first amendment
It's hardly the same thing as punishing people for having opinions you disagree with.
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Response to nxylas (Reply #24)
Thu May 28, 2015, 04:04 PM
Oktober (1,488 posts)
29. No one is talking about that...
I'm pointing out that someone who goes around proclaiming their love for little boys or the superiority of the white race have, and should have, a tough time in the job market.
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Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:03 AM
daredtowork (3,732 posts)
3. SVAPP
Strategic Video Against Public Participation?
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Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:20 AM
peecoolyour (336 posts)
6. Orwellian as shit.
Eventually, American companies will do this to blacklist people with left-leaning views.
If they're not already. |
Response to peecoolyour (Reply #6)
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:09 AM
AngryAmish (25,704 posts)
18. The precident was set at Mozilla
Can't blame folks for following precident.
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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #18)
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:51 AM
starroute (12,977 posts)
19. Mozilla? The makers of the Firefox browser?
What do they have to do with any of this?
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Response to starroute (Reply #19)
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:11 AM
AngryAmish (25,704 posts)
21. Brendon Eich was forced to resign because of his anti gay views.
These folks are not being hired for anti Isreali views.
Two sides of the same coin. These are the rules nowadays. Unless you stood up for Eich, then no complaints this time. |
Response to AngryAmish (Reply #21)
Thu May 28, 2015, 11:07 AM
starroute (12,977 posts)
22. So unless you supported a bigot you have no right to complain about bigotry
Got it.
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Response to starroute (Reply #22)
Thu May 28, 2015, 11:29 AM
AngryAmish (25,704 posts)
23. Not quite.
The old rules were that your personal political beliefs would not get you fired. That is what you mean when free speech is a value, not just a right that protects you from the government.
Free speech as a value has changed. Free speech does not protect private people from discriminating against you. "Words have consequences" is the value of today. If you say something that someone considers to be bigoted, or act in a way that is considered bigoted then nongovernmental actors are free to try to keep you from employment. Question: if you were hiring and a resume that said a potential employee was the President of his College Republican club came across your desk you would toss it. Who needs these people? This is the same thing. |
Response to AngryAmish (Reply #18)
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:20 PM
closeupready (29,503 posts)
27. Yeah, why blame fundamentalists when you can blame Democrats?
Got it.
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Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:16 AM
DetlefK (16,423 posts)
7. Come on. Any employer using this is begging for a lawsuit.
Discrimination based on political opinions? Please!
And how is the employer supposed to prove that him doing business with Israel, the candidate having been active in BDS and the existence of the website have no connection? |
Response to DetlefK (Reply #7)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:56 AM
Jesus Malverde (10,274 posts)
12. It won't be the "employer"
It will be an activist involved in the hiring process. It will never be mentioned in the hiring process nor known to the employer. All the activist will say is he's not a good fit.
President Obama gives Israel raw data from the NSA I would not be surprised if online activists are similarly targeted. The hope is to put fear in the activist community, BSD is working and they are the ones who are scared of being isolated and marginalized by nations that value human rights. South Africa showed how effective it can be. |
Response to DetlefK (Reply #7)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:56 AM
spinbaby (14,970 posts)
13. Oh, you are so delightfully naive
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Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:24 AM
Unknown Beatle (2,649 posts)
8. Pro-Palestinian means
Pro-Human Rights.
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Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:50 AM
azurnoir (45,850 posts)
11. absolutely disgusting and they of course keep themselves secret
Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:28 AM
okaawhatever (9,438 posts)
15. Not a good move for the anti-Palestinian folks. Mentally I just moved closer to the Pals side nt
Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:37 AM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
16. Vile and disgusting.
Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:52 AM
dembotoz (16,401 posts)
17. here in Wisconsin. the word is if you signed the recall forget many state jobs
Teabaggers also endorse using the list for employment and tenant screening
Locally a judge who signed was primaries and defeated soleybon that basis |
Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:54 AM
starroute (12,977 posts)
20. It's the stalkerish part that's most chilling
It's not just about potential employment. "The individual dossiers on the Canary Mission’s site are lengthy and detailed, and include videos and photographs of the activists. In the case of some current students, the site lists their majors. There are links to Facebook pages, Twitter pages and LinkedIn profiles, and lengthy descriptions of pro-Palestinian student groups and movements to which these students have alleged links."
That seems like an invitation to harassment or even potentially to violence. |
Response to starroute (Reply #20)
Thu May 28, 2015, 02:16 PM
closeupready (29,503 posts)
26. It's revenge porn, and highly illegal. A lawsuit could shut them down.
Response to Lagom (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:19 PM
Scurrilous (38,676 posts)
28. BDS = Bad!
Blacklisting people for their political views = Good!
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