Wed May 27, 2015, 04:24 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
Tampa Bay Times does not place Bernie Sanders Campaign Announcement Online! I called Media Matters
I just contacted Media Matters after speaking to the news room at the Tampa Bay Times. I called because I was told they carried the AP story in the actual rag today, that very few purchase. Most of their readers are online. This news source constantly lifts stories from other sources, because they are too lazy to actually do their own story. I have read that the political editor or the paper is in New Hampshire. My first thought was that he could have gone and wrote his own story, took his own pictures.
So I went looking for the AP story online. It was nowhere to be found. So I called the newsroom to ask as sometimes she'll tell me where to click, turn right, scroll to bottom and click again. In other words, it's well hidden, but it's there. She put me on hold for quite a while and when she returned she said, "you're right! we did not put it online, and I have NO idea why". I then told her that we both know why, starting with Florida's older electorate, and knowledge for Bernie Sanders, to hide his campaign. It's also to stop any machine building with media support, as they reserve all of that for Hillary, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio. Jeb is not even a candidate, yet the Tampa Bay Times has a special tab/section dedicated to Jeb and Marco called, 'Jebio'. I then told her there were three places online to see the same AP story of Rick Santorum getting into the race. I also told her the guy funding him right now, is the guy who said women only need to put an aspirin between their legs to prevent pregnancy. They did not print that about Rick. Anyway, it was an AP article for Santorum and it's placed in three places online at Tampa Bay Times. Bernie's should be in the AP section at the very least, but it's not. Not even in the political section! I made the call to call them out! Then I contacted Media Matters to complain and she took all the info and put a flag on it. I had to take the time to do this. For you, me, Bernie, and the whole darn country! This proves the Tampa Bay Times is a propaganda machine. Bernie's event was unprecedented! Go Bernie!!! We have your back! ![]()
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TheNutcracker | May 2015 | OP |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #1 | |
nenagh | May 2015 | #10 | |
MissDeeds | May 2015 | #2 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #3 | |
KansDem | May 2015 | #4 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #7 | |
Jackpine Radical | May 2015 | #31 | |
Aerows | May 2015 | #34 | |
MissDeeds | May 2015 | #5 | |
onethatcares | May 2015 | #6 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #8 | |
11 Bravo | May 2015 | #9 | |
nadinbrzezinski | May 2015 | #11 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #12 | |
brooklynite | May 2015 | #13 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #14 | |
lostnfound | May 2015 | #18 | |
Fuddnik | May 2015 | #43 | |
SusanCalvin | May 2015 | #42 | |
Rex | May 2015 | #54 | |
SusanCalvin | May 2015 | #57 | |
Sancho | May 2015 | #15 | |
KamaAina | May 2015 | #17 | |
Sancho | May 2015 | #21 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #20 | |
Sancho | May 2015 | #24 | |
KamaAina | May 2015 | #16 | |
lostnfound | May 2015 | #19 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #22 | |
KamaAina | May 2015 | #25 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #26 | |
Fuddnik | May 2015 | #44 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #49 | |
m-lekktor | May 2015 | #23 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #28 | |
WillyT | May 2015 | #27 | |
yeoman6987 | May 2015 | #29 | |
daleanime | May 2015 | #38 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #50 | |
yeoman6987 | May 2015 | #56 | |
renate | May 2015 | #30 | |
Enthusiast | May 2015 | #32 | |
johnnyreb | May 2015 | #33 | |
orpupilofnature57 | May 2015 | #35 | |
SoapBox | May 2015 | #36 | |
L0oniX | May 2015 | #37 | |
daleanime | May 2015 | #39 | |
HooptieWagon | May 2015 | #40 | |
Fuddnik | May 2015 | #45 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #47 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #48 | |
edgineered | May 2015 | #41 | |
glinda | May 2015 | #46 | |
peacebird | May 2015 | #51 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #52 | |
haikugal | May 2015 | #53 | |
freshwest | May 2015 | #55 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #58 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #59 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #60 | |
colsohlibgal | May 2015 | #61 | |
NCTraveler | May 2015 | #62 | |
TheNutcracker | May 2015 | #63 |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:28 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
1. Kick hard, to kick the MSM in the arse!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:29 PM
MissDeeds (7,499 posts)
2. Good for you!
We must make sure the media doesn't ignore or marginalize Bernie!
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Response to MissDeeds (Reply #2)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:32 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
3. Please K&R to the greatest for more coverage of this lack of journalism integrity
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:33 PM
KansDem (28,498 posts)
4. The Fourth Estate...
...has become the Whoreth Estate.
What a Whorrible situation! |
Response to KansDem (Reply #4)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:50 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
7. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show everyone their arses!
Response to KansDem (Reply #4)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:19 PM
Jackpine Radical (45,274 posts)
31. That's one way to puta label on it.
Response to KansDem (Reply #4)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:27 PM
Aerows (39,961 posts)
34. Excellent
way to sum up what the media in the country really is.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:49 PM
onethatcares (15,603 posts)
6. I think it is on Page 4
of the first section. It took me a few minutes to find it this morning. I did notice that Senator Sanders did not get much of a bio in that article.
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Response to onethatcares (Reply #6)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:51 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
8. They chose not to put it online, where most of the readers are. Plenty on Santorum though...
just saying he's getting in. Not the formal announcement yet. Cover Jeb every day...who's still unannounced! I know it's in the rag....but I watch how they work. It's hidden from most of their readers...they also CHARGE TO READ ONLINE! They pay, and still cannot see it!
gads...please kick to the greatest! |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:54 PM
11 Bravo (23,735 posts)
9. Goodonya!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:55 PM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
11. This takes me back to 2004
and it was worst.
The Republicans cancelled all their primaries. I learned of this nugget reading The Independent... a British center right paper ran the AP filed story, as is. Nowhere to be found in the US Press. |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)
Wed May 27, 2015, 04:58 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
12. I remember....and please kick!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:07 PM
brooklynite (86,913 posts)
13. You're upset about one local newspaper?
FWIW, the Tampa Tribune carried it, plus followup stories
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:16 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
14. No, but I watch the political shit show the Tampa Bay Times puts on....these same editors handle the
debates! The Tribune does not have the readership nor online. One local newspaper. Your avatar will be burning soon, when they do this to Hillary...when it's too late. I know their specialty. People depend on Florida in national politics. This is why this paper needs to be watched. And, people have to pay to read them online as well. They should have what's in the paper. The girl at the desk first said I had to be wrong...and she would find it. She had to come back and say I was right it's not there and she doesn't know why. Tampa Bay is also one of the most expensive media market in FLA, and one of the most in the country. I have personal political stories about these trolls at the Times, but I won't bore you.
This is the fourth estate. IT's not just one local newspaper. It's major influence or lack thereof. |
Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:25 PM
lostnfound (15,717 posts)
18. The Tampa Tribine has always been right leaning lower quality paper, while the Times was more left
And higher quality.
It surprises me.. |
Response to lostnfound (Reply #18)
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:07 PM
Fuddnik (8,846 posts)
43. The last few years, the Tampa Bay Times (formerly St. Pete Times) has turned into a shit rag paper.
Their political editor is a little republican dweeb asshole named Adam Smith. He's the one that Alan Grayson called a "shitting robot". That was putting it kindly.
A few years ago, they ran a fabricated republican story against a friend of mine in a congressional race. They claimed our candidate took a swing at the congresswomans husband. It was a blatant lie, and they refused to print a retraction. Then a couple of years later, they repeated the same bullshit story again in an article about the husbands death (cancer). I ran another race where they continually downplayed and omitted my candidates credentials and qualifications for office (Schools Supt) and refused to cover the race unless she started attacking her opponent or did something controversial. They used to be a fairly liberal paper, then a change at the top, and they took a decided right-wing slant. Fuck the TBT. |
Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:01 PM
SusanCalvin (6,592 posts)
42. Why not?
Blatant bias, called 'em on it. Seems reasonable to me.
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Response to SusanCalvin (Reply #42)
Wed May 27, 2015, 09:11 PM
Rex (65,616 posts)
54. Some around here are desperate for people to drop reason and just go on emotions.
They seem to be losing that war.
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Response to Rex (Reply #54)
Wed May 27, 2015, 10:37 PM
SusanCalvin (6,592 posts)
57. Huh?
Even if it's just an oversight, nothing wrong with calling attention to it.
Not sure what I said that you find hilarious. (Don't particularly care, just mentioning it.) Edited to add that I have no idea if you're laughing at me or with me, hence the above comment. Perhaps I'm a bit slow...... ;-> |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:22 PM
Sancho (8,901 posts)
15. I'm not surprised...Bernie isn't on the radar in Florida. I've posted that several times already.
Frankly, I don't think he has the name recognition or money to compete in Florida. We'll see.
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Response to Sancho (Reply #15)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:25 PM
KamaAina (78,249 posts)
17. "nothing will get any coverage until the Lightning is done for the year"? Srsly?
Florida is, um, not exactly hockey country.
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Response to KamaAina (Reply #17)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:35 PM
Sancho (8,901 posts)
21. If they win one more game, they will be playing for the Stanley Cup...big hockey fans here.
Crazy huh? People at beach parties rooting for an ice hockey game.
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Response to Sancho (Reply #15)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:35 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
20. Jeb has not even announced and they have a special online tab for him!
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #20)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:37 PM
Sancho (8,901 posts)
24. I can't go to homeowner's association meetings - lots of Jeb fans.
Everyone knows I'm the token liberal.
The paper covers the Florida candidates. If someone visits, they will put in something. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:24 PM
KamaAina (78,249 posts)
16. Yikes. As the St. Petersburg Times, it was once among the finest papers in the land.
It is published by the nonprofit Poynter Institute, which used to espouse actual journalism. What happened?
![]() Then again, the San Jose Mercury News was also once among the finest papers in the land. After its purchase by MediaNews Group, it has devolved to the point where I call it the "cat box liner". ![]() |
Response to KamaAina (Reply #16)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:26 PM
lostnfound (15,717 posts)
19. Yes it's always been great. It's still independent..
But has suffered cutbacks like every other paper out there.
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Response to KamaAina (Reply #16)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:36 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
22. I could go on for days what happened to them. It's political control for republicans in a nutshell.
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #22)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:46 PM
KamaAina (78,249 posts)
25. One wonders if $cientology might be involved.
Right up the road in Clearwater.
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Response to KamaAina (Reply #25)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:48 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
26. No, there is an extremely hateful relationship between that 'church' and the Tampa Bay Times
Response to KamaAina (Reply #16)
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:10 PM
Fuddnik (8,846 posts)
44. They made an assole named Paul Tash the Publisher.
It started going downhill the next day.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:37 PM
m-lekktor (3,675 posts)
23. Calling Media Matters is like calling Hillary campaign headquarters!
the people there are probably glad he wasn't mentioned.
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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #23)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:49 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
28. Good, they need to know we're watching and trying to participate above board!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:49 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
27. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:58 PM
yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)
29. Bernie's event was unprecedented?
How so? I think it was nice but every candidate announces in their own way.
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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #29)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:48 PM
daleanime (17,796 posts)
38. Really?
Just another candidate?
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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #29)
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:44 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
50. Yes, but never as many cuz it's always ticketed. Bernie's event was UNTICKETED
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #50)
Wed May 27, 2015, 10:17 PM
yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)
56. Thanks!
I didn't know that but doesn't surprise me.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:04 PM
renate (13,775 posts)
30. good for you!
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It's important!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:21 PM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
32. Kicked and recommended to the Max! Well done, TheNutcracker!
Thank you very much!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:22 PM
johnnyreb (915 posts)
33. K&R! Engage Operation Manta Ray.
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:27 PM
orpupilofnature57 (15,472 posts)
35. Thomas Paine would be proud of you, How to go !!!!!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:35 PM
SoapBox (18,791 posts)
36. LA Times print edition today...
Front page, story about how Paul, Rubio and Cruz are just like a first term Congress member, Obama.
Buried back on page 8 was the article about the LIBERAL Senator Sanders announcement. Well, I guess page 8 is better than nothing. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:37 PM
L0oniX (31,493 posts)
37. K & R
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:49 PM
daleanime (17,796 posts)
39. K&R.....
Scraping for every inch!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:55 PM
HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)
40. Page 6A.
Probably just an oversight that it wasn't posted online. The Tampa Bay Times is a pretty highly regarded newspaper, that's a bit left of middle.
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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #40)
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:11 PM
Fuddnik (8,846 posts)
45. Not anymore. I call them the Tampa Bay Crimes.
Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #40)
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:32 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
47. Not locally anymore. They coordinate with the campaigns and steer, more than the consultants!
They are not suppose to do that.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #47)
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:33 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
48. PS To add, only 1/4 of their readers were in St. Pete, thus changed to Tampa Bay Times
Locals got tired of their political shenanigans!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 06:56 PM
edgineered (2,101 posts)
41. kick rec
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 07:29 PM
glinda (14,807 posts)
46. kick!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:46 PM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
51. Excellent! Thank you for catching it, & calling them on it!
Response to peacebird (Reply #51)
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:53 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
52. Kick for Bernie!!!
Yeah!
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 09:03 PM
haikugal (6,476 posts)
53. Woot! Keep cracking those nuts...you rock!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 09:23 PM
freshwest (53,661 posts)
55. Excellent follow up. Tell us if they correct themselves now. I hope MM carries it. n't
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed May 27, 2015, 10:59 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
58. I have learned they had it up for three hours the night of...starting at 9:30pm.
So, when I got up and read the rag, I wanted to go online and share it. It WAS G O N E.
The rest of the AP stories were there....even the old Marco and Jeb articles. Today, the Times told me it is NOT online. She said she did not know why. Well it was, for the shortest time of any national story. Most are not up late, and in the morning when they read online, IT WAS GONE. The Times pulls shenanigans like this all the time in politics. I posted this on KOS and was attacked for trying to stir up shit. "I saw it online last night". He gave the link. It's not on the current daily page, for anyone to find. Not even able to hunt for it. So I took it down there, after the same person said they are a good paper. They don't deal with them as I have, working in politics. So I removed it...and not interested in that board. All is well with them over there.....so I can't waste my time on them. But I wanted all to know what I found out there, about it being up for a few hours. There are stories on the front page that are a week old! So I won't bother with anyone who thinks the media is playing fair. Especially with Bernie. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:11 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
59. More info on topic today from those who are familiar with Tampa Bay Times! (LTE's)
These are similar complaints about this 'nooze' institution. These are complaints from those who actually receive the paper on their doorstep. The story was put up the night before at 9:38pm, and removed by morning. So if you read online which you must also PAY $$, you missed if you did not stay up late. If you read in the morning, it was removed. Gone from the current day online edition. Don't forget this is the paper who ignored Nan Rich, our Senate Leader, for republican turned Democrat, Charlie Crist. He would not even debate her. Here are a couple of OTHER opinions, from today's letters.
************************************** Thursday's letters: Don't ignore promising candidate Re: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:14pm Sanders vows to fix what ails America | May 27 Don't ignore promising candidate Finally, there is a candidate for president with a platform of ideas that are truly in the best interest of the majority of Americans. We can only hope the Tampa Bay Times and its editorial board, mainstream media and the Democratic Party will not disregard Bernie Sanders the way they did Nan Rich in her run for governor. Rich offered the most promise for the people of Florida. But the Times, other in-state media and the DNC all but ignored her candidacy under the assumption that she could not win due to a lack of funding and name recognition. Instead, they got behind a mediocre alternative who failed to excite voters and lost to a highly unpopular incumbent. Sanders is light-years behind Hillary Clinton in funding and name recognition. But his ideas and priorities are just what this country needs. And we know he, unlike Clinton (as well as all of the Republican candidates), is not under the thumb of big money. It is easy to conclude a little-known candidate with low poll numbers and a small campaign chest "cannot win," especially in a national election. But the power of social media has never been greater and can go a long way in neutralizing gaps in funding and name recognition. Plus, the electorate has never been more turned off by the corporate-run, big-money politics that have taken over this country. The media and DNC alone cannot put Sanders in the White House, but by ignoring his candidacy, they can prevent any chance of him getting there. Chip Thomas, Tampa *********************************************************** (and.......another (multiple letters in a small space which means the Times received many) Sanders vows to fix what ails America May 27 More coverage on policy I was disappointed that your article about Bernie Sanders announcing his candidacy was not on the front page. I am an avid hockey fan, but the outcome of the Lightning game has far less impact on us than Sanders' candidacy. The next president will have a lasting effect on the nation and the world. The Republican hopefuls have all had space on the front page at one time or another. Please increase your coverage of the policy positions, agreements and disagreements among the candidates. We need more substantive discussion and less reporting of the candidate's daily micro gains and losses in the polls. Guy Hancock, Largo http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/letters/thursdays-letters-dont-ignore-promising-candidate/2231310 |
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #59)
Thu May 28, 2015, 10:07 AM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
60. Perhaps the above post deserves it's own thread?
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 01:24 PM
colsohlibgal (5,261 posts)
61. The Attempt To Marginalize Him Is On
The Columbus paper included a bit about him in an article, with a photo, of Rick Santorum. Unbelievable.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Thu May 28, 2015, 01:32 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
62. I have to ask, are you Guy Hancock?
Here is the political editors bio from their own website.
http://www.tampabay.com/writers/adam-c-smith/ |
Response to NCTraveler (Reply #62)
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:32 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
63. Gads, we know him well. Total dough boy these days....