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(62,344 posts)Rockyj
(538 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I will do what I can.
DinahMoeHum
(21,737 posts)On board.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Yes we can.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)But even without it, Bernie would be a huge win for the people.
Obv
jeff47
(26,549 posts)But you get there in 2022 by laying the ground work now.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)reasons.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The Senate will switch back to D in 2016. The House will be in Republican hands until redistricting.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)continue to be active and lobby for what we want. When we stop that and just let our elected officials go their own way - that is when we get in trouble.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)that the right has used to build their political strength.
They aways think long term.
I don't think a Sanders Administration would make over night changes in policy.
We need to think long term. I know "we" can't wait but it is not about us. It is about those coming after us.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)after - I have 11 great grandchildren. Mine are already here.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)a lot of things before this campaign ends. I hope none of us gets too disappointed.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)been hampering us for too long.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I am worried that a Hillary administration will be more triangulation and centrism. I fear a Rahm Emmanuel VP if she is elected. We need to move both the people and our party back towards progressivism. If she can handle that and we can be garaunteed a progressive enough VP then good. Of course I guess I will have to vote for her if she wins, but I plan on fighting very hard for Bernie!
Centrism has not worked for building up the party or the message. I think Sanders is different enough and sturdy enough that we will can at least establish a foundation that we can build onto.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)she could always pick Bernie for her VP, no way would they take her out to put the socialist in. Wouldn't get us much, though, VP is largely symbolic, he does more good in the Senate than he would as VP.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I guess it is only a thing if progressives give ground.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Because even redistricting can not trump the vote if people want change.
And massive voter turnout could change everything.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Even in gerrymandered districts like mine, the more people who show up and vote, the more the populist wins, no matter what party he or she is on. I have seen it for almost 30 years here.
The idea is to get out the vote. That is what it all boils down to.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)you're not going to change who wins.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Again, if you get out the vote you win. Less than 1/2 of registered voters vote in a good year. When you do whatever is necessary to get voters to the polls and vote, you win. I have personally done it for local, congressional, senate, and state elections. If it works there, district by district, it can be done.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and the most immediate ground work is not the 2016 Presidency; but rather, a taking of the State governments, in time for the 2020 census.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)The way gerrymandering works (I'm sure you're aware), is that they setup a lot of districts to narrowly go their way, rather than having the more natural concentration of certain areas going their way big with other areas not going their way.
In a wave election, the gerrymandered districts actually make it easier to reverse a huge number of seats.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They set up around 60% majority districts. Not 51% majority districts. A "wave" election is around a 5% swing. A 10% swing is massive.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Curious about the 10%, I would not think they woud be able to setup many districts for that large of an advantage unless a state was overwhelmingly Republican. I could be wrong about that, if you have a source I'd love to read it, thanks.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)I won't mention any other names here....but I've spent 8 years waiting for a bone. Still looking for crumbs....
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)And he's not.
Wondering at what point you'll begin saying similar things about Hillary.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Get it done.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)kentuck
(110,950 posts)Democracy is in distress...
MuseRider
(34,057 posts)Posting on Facebook, even some tea bagger friends like him. Not sure if that will equate to votes. Sent donation and will do what needs to be done. He has my vote, he is who we need.
peecoolyour
(336 posts)No one in the Oval has given a damn about Appalachia since LBJ.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Alas.
Welcome to DU.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Welcome to DU!
JEB
(4,748 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Yes he is.
xocet
(3,870 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)K&R
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)think
(11,641 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Retweeting and favoriting those others post. Have sent him $$$, and am trying to find out how to start volunteering for him in Virginia
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Keep spreading the word!
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,759 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Go Bernie!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)leaning strongly toward Bernie.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the people's candidate.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)Should be on every campaign button, sticker, and prominently displayed on a banner at every appearance.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Autumn
(44,748 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)GO BERNIE GO!!!!
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I'm wit you!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)sgtbenobo
(327 posts)And if the slavers steal the election again it will be much more apparent if Bernie is our candidate. I doubt people would hit the streets when the election is stolen from Hillary. Bernie is the only one who can put some stink on this pitch and show the world what a bunch of murderous lying clowns the Republican party are and that we the people are not them. Then maybe the U.N. will monitor our Diebold machines. A boy can dream.
When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? Perhaps to be too practical is madness. To surrender dreams this may be madness. Too much sanity may be madness and maddest of all: to see life as it is, and not as it should be!
Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Carry on.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Sniper shot. Perfect. Letter perfect.
Thank you.
simply nice
cheers
Oh, and Carry on.
Paka
(2,760 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)There's only one Democrat running as far as I'm concerned.. And it's not the new Democrat...
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I am in.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)KatyaR
(3,445 posts)I'm ready for some change.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)the sooner, the better...Goodbye DLC, Third Way, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup...etc.
edgineered
(2,101 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)No shit. Make it so.
Paka
(2,760 posts)I's up to "we the people" to make this happen.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)It is definitely time for Bernie or somebody like him ...
In this Primary season, I'm all in with Bernie ...
If Hillary wins the primary, then I am voting for Hillary ... not too confusing to understand ...
Bernie can start the conversation that needs to be heard loud and clear ... Maybe even Hillary will listen up ...
Thanks Will ...
CountAllVotes
(20,854 posts)& recommend.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth 2016?
sellitman
(11,596 posts)Breath of fresh air!
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)Going with my heart this time!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Thanks any way.
Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)mahina
(17,502 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Since Iowa and New Hampshire seem to decide things long before my primary ever arrives...let's put everything we've got into those and other early states.
mountain grammy
(26,568 posts)and Bernie will make it an honest primary. We'll have honest debates. Regardless of who the Democratic party chooses for it's nominee next summer, we will go into the 2016 campaign with a good platform and honest ideas. If Americans elect one of the Republican clowns, it deserves to die. We'll be bombing Iran by 2017, and 2020 may not even arrive.
For now, Bernie's my guy.. but I will NOT be bashing Hillary. I actually like her and think she would be an excellent president, as will Bernie.
Duval
(4,280 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)quarbis
(314 posts)Best candidate for years