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Sun May 24, 2015, 06:54 PM

Hey CNN, Bernie Sanders is Running For President of the United States!!

One would think they would know this, right? Especially considering Bernie just interviewed on the "network" Reliable Sources" Program. Which make this picture, taken from my cell phone either full of straight up propaganda, done on purpose or better yet - a combination of both!

Take a look at the headline. See anything inaccurate about it?



Just in case my kids trophies are blocking a full view, it says: "Martin O' Malley to Become Clinton's First Rival".

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Reply Hey CNN, Bernie Sanders is Running For President of the United States!! (Original post)
LovingA2andMI May 2015 OP
valerief May 2015 #1
elleng May 2015 #2
valerief May 2015 #3
elleng May 2015 #4
LovingA2andMI May 2015 #5
elleng May 2015 #6
valerief May 2015 #7
elleng May 2015 #8
swilton May 2015 #16
elleng May 2015 #25
LovingA2andMI May 2015 #49
FSogol May 2015 #52
elleng May 2015 #54
KingCharlemagne May 2015 #10
LovingA2andMI May 2015 #12
KingCharlemagne May 2015 #13
daleanime May 2015 #19
zeemike May 2015 #22
KingCharlemagne May 2015 #23
elleng May 2015 #26
KingCharlemagne May 2015 #28
elleng May 2015 #32
Agschmid May 2015 #34
elleng May 2015 #37
Agschmid May 2015 #38
Scootaloo May 2015 #29
Agschmid May 2015 #35
elleng May 2015 #39
yallerdawg May 2015 #9
LovingA2andMI May 2015 #11
LineReply .
stonecutter357 May 2015 #14
Dragonfli May 2015 #15
LovingA2andMI May 2015 #17
Agschmid May 2015 #36
Dragonfli May 2015 #40
Agschmid May 2015 #41
Dragonfli May 2015 #44
Agschmid May 2015 #45
Dragonfli May 2015 #47
Agschmid May 2015 #48
LovingA2andMI May 2015 #50
mopinko May 2015 #53
Ed Suspicious May 2015 #18
brooklynite May 2015 #20
Scootaloo May 2015 #30
KamaAina May 2015 #21
jalan48 May 2015 #24
redstateblues May 2015 #27
Rex May 2015 #31
Thinkingabout May 2015 #33
LovingA2andMI May 2015 #51
TheNutcracker May 2015 #42
elleng May 2015 #43
Raine1967 May 2015 #46

Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 06:56 PM

1. He must be Hillary's first "Wall Street approved" rival. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #1)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:00 PM

2. Doubt it.

Not excusing CNN, but let's not misstate the record here, please.

For one thing:


O'Malley , Maryland & campaign finance reform.

in this thread, I mentioned that Governor O'Malley is for Public campaign financing.

In this post Citizens United world that is a terrible big mountain to overcome. I want to highlight that Maryland under the governor passed a pretty good campaign finance reform bill into law:

Maryland Passes Campaign Finance Reform—Expands Independent Expenditure Disclosures

In the closing hours of its session last week, the Maryland General Assembly passed the Campaign Finance Reform Act of 2013 and Governor O’Malley is expected to sign it soon. Even so, the changes do not take effect until after the 2014 state elections.

The final version of the bill is largely unchanged from the initial House-passed version we described previously, meaning that after the 2014 elections, contribution limits will increase, certain business entities will be limited in their giving, pay-to-play reporting will be simplified, and enforcement strengthened.


I post this because the Governor knew that he would no longer be in office, and yet he knew and still does know the problem with too much money in politics.



Here is another link on the subject:

New Maryland Campaign Finance Law
Last Thursday, Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley signed a new campaign finance law. Among other provisions, the law requires disclosure of contributors to independent expenditure and electioneering groups. The new law, which generally goes into effect in 2015, will require disclosure of the identity of any person contributing $6,000 or more to independent expenditures or independent electioneering groups that are involved in Maryland state elections. The new law also restricts contributions by limited liability companies and other non-corporate business entities, and it raises contribution limits from $4,000 to a single candidate in a cycle to $6,000 and from $10,000 to all candidates in a cycle to $24,000.

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:02 PM

3. I just said that because he was mentioned on CNN (unlike the ignored Bernie).

But thanks for the info.

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Response to valerief (Reply #3)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:04 PM

4. I understand, and msm is unforgivable.

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:12 PM

5. I'd be first to admit that I don't know alot about O' Malley

Will be willing to learn more about him in upcoming months however, I'm concerned he expanded the "Broken Windows" policy in Maryland while Governor accounting for imprisoning thousand of the State's Minority residents.

However, CNN know full well O' Malley would NOT be and is NOT Clinton's only Rival running for the Democratic Nomination for President and, should be made to retract and apologize to the Sanders campaign for this highly inaccurate headline.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #5)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:18 PM

6. I agree; CNN messed up badly.

Please learn about Governor O'Malley here. Lots of facts and discussion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1281

More, esp about Baltimore:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128161

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Response to elleng (Reply #6)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:24 PM

7. I think CNN is trying to be the new TMZ. They're not really interested in actual news. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #7)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:26 PM

8. Wouldn't surprise me,

but as I never watch it (unless DUers say I should,) I can't comment substantively.

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:02 PM

16. O'Malley

 

also oversaw the abolishment of the Md. death penalty and the approval of same sex marriage.

Having said that - his record seems to be one of neo-liberalism. A Clinton supporter as Governor of Md. in 2008, he was criticized for balancing the Md. budget on the backs of the poor.....before becoming Md. Governor he was also Mayor of Baltimore. I'm not saying the Freddie Gray riots in Baltimore were caused by O'Malley, but Matt Taibi in a 22 May program on Democracy Now said that the crisis in Baltimore was decades in the making. Thus, while O'Malley didn't cause that situation, he didn't help it either.



http://www.democracynow.org/2015/5/21/matt_taibbi_on_baltimore_freddie_gray


Trying to make himself distinct from Clinton, in this year's cycle he famously said that the Presidency was not some crown to be passed between two families. Rhetoric is good but I wouldn't doubt that he would accept a running mate position. It has happened before.

I don't at all compare him to Sanders who is in a class by himself....I also think that the more 'progressives' that cancel each other out, the more it helps Clinton.

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Response to swilton (Reply #16)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:37 PM

25. Try this.

Watch the video.

Talking With Martin O'Malley: Reform, or Pitchforks?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/talking-with-martin-omalley-reform-or-pitchforks/392633/

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Response to elleng (Reply #25)

Mon May 25, 2015, 03:54 AM

49. Thanks....

Will do!

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Response to swilton (Reply #16)

Mon May 25, 2015, 09:08 AM

52. O'Malley never balanced the budget on the backs of the poor, he successfully

raised taxes on the rich. This lower taxes for 85% of Marylanders. You are also wrong about him being Neoliberal. He has a huge record of liberal successes.

Here's why are support O'Malley

Martin O'Malley:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

There is a lot more, but I'll only add that Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

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Response to FSogol (Reply #52)

Mon May 25, 2015, 02:18 PM

54. Thanks, FSogol.

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Response to valerief (Reply #1)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:31 PM

10. Hillary's first 'stalking horse' to split the left. She probably personally

 

recruited O'Malley to run to stop Sanders' momentum (currently polling at 24%).

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #10)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:37 PM

12. Who knows?

It is interesting that the CNN Entertainment Network used the word "Rival" and particularity "First Rival" as if they were instructed by the "Powers That Be" to place that in the headline over "Martin O' Malley Set To Enter 2016 Democratic Race for President".

Again, they owe the Sanders 2016 Campaign an IMMEDIATE apology and retraction.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #12)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:40 PM

13. They (CNN) are a law unto themselves and do whatever their owners instruct

 

them to do. (No longer remember which media group owns CNN.)

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #13)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:29 PM

19. Only 6 possible options....

just roll the dice.

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #10)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:54 PM

22. That was my thought too.

Her solution is dilution.

And I thought that as soon as O'Mally hit the news...he came out of nowhere to sound progressive.
And now I expect him to suck the air out of Sanders message...and we will see it here on DU shortly.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #22)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:56 PM

23. All's fair in love, war and politics. I hope Sanders' campaign strategists are

 

recruiting stalking horses for Hillary to suck some of the air out of her support too. Jim Webb would make a wonderful stalking horse for Hillary, imho

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #10)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:38 PM

26. What b.s.

Try watching this video, to learn about the substance of Governor O'Malley:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/talking-with-martin-omalley-reform-or-pitchforks/392633/

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Response to elleng (Reply #26)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:43 PM

28. Why don't you give me a reason to click on your link other than bandying insults? - nt

 

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #28)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:52 PM

32. A few viewer's / interviewer's notes:

• This was less a casual discussion, and more a formal "please explain yourself" interrogation, than it might have been—if O'Malley's record as crime-fighting mayor of Baltimore, and his emphasis on by-the-numbers reporting of police activities along with other government actions, hadn't recently come into the center of the news. That is the topic on which we start.

• I was amazed how many people emailed me to be sure I had seen David "The Wire" Simon's brutal criticism of O'Malley, in his interview with Bill Keller of The Marshall Project. I had of course seen that interview when it first came out. After talking generally about Baltimore, I asked O'Malley not about his personal friction with Simon but about Simon's charge that, under him, Baltimore police had had an incentive to cook the books in their crime reports. O'Malley is familiar with the charge, and he has an answer (starting around time 14:00) that you can hear.

• On police violence: I asked O'Malley about the seemingly nonstop stream of videos showing mainly white law enforcement officers shooting, choking to death, manhandling, or otherwise mistreating unarmed black male civilians. What was going on here? Was more of this happening? Or were we just seeing more? O'Malley's answer boiled down to: real occurrence slightly going down, visibility going way up. Which he says, despite short-term complications, is good.

• The meat of the discussion involved O'Malley's views on inequality, polarization, thwarted opportunity, and overall Second Gilded Age-ism. He was preaching to the choir, as far as my own views are concerned, but you can hear the way he develops these themes after the Baltimore discussion.

• I didn't ask him any "normal" political questions, because ... what's the point? Either Hillary Clinton will prove vulnerable, or she will not. Either the Republicans will care about nominating a candidate with general-election plausibility, or they won't. Either way, guesses on this front are like barroom predictions for next year's Super Bowl: probably wrong, and certainly non-accountable.

• Starting around 24:00, I remind O'Malley of a moment he might have forgotten but I never will. (And it reflects well on him.) It involves his against-the-grain real-world cautions on the eve of the Iraq war.

• In the final third of the conversation, I push O'Malley on the "so what?" aspect of his argument that we're in another Gilded Age. What makes him think people are ready to move past NIMBY / me-first politics? Where's the sign of a public response similar to what made the Progressive and Populist era possible? You'll hear his answer, building to his point that eras of polarization like today's lead to reform—or "to pitchforks."

• For his part O'Malley was careful to make no "normal" political points and to release no personal barbs. But he had a very interesting "new day is coming" theme, about the way younger Americans are tired of feeling divided and pessimistic, are excited about living in cities and working on the environment, and generally feel better about life than their sour Baby Boomer elders. He's in a mid-generational position to make this point—some 15 years younger than Hillary Clinton, the same age as Rand Paul, 7 or 8 years older than Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz—but he makes it skillfully. The hope of moving past old division is evergreen in American politics (remember Andrew Sullivan's "Goodbye to All That" case for Obama in the Atlantic in 2007). It's central to O'Malley's argument.

. Governors have an edge in the race for the presidency, because they've spent their careers doing things, and learning the complications of the real world. I have no idea whether Martin O'Malley has a prayer in the upcoming presidential race. But from talking with him on stage, and before and after, and reading a lot by and about him in preparation for the event, I take him seriously as a person who has done things and knows the realities of execution. He also has attracted respectful attention from the press covering his still-unannounced campaign. For instance: a piece by Matt Bai in Yahoo; by Jill Lawrence and by Ron Brownstein back in 2013 in National Journal; ongoing coverage by John Wagner in the WaPo; and by Jim Rutenberg in the NYT. Again, who knows where this will lead, but he's shown that he is a serious figure. (Update: plus this strong-edged piece, “You Have Martin O’Malley All Wrong,” today in the Daily Beast.)

• I didn't ask him about foreign policy in this session. One reason was that we ran out of time; another is that his judgment about the Iraq War told me that he had good instincts. After the event I told him that if there had been time I would have asked him about the proposed Iran-nuclear deal. He said it seemed like a positive step, which in context is another important sign of sanity.

* * *

A contested race is a good thing for the party and the country, even if it's grinding for the actual candidates. Whatever becomes of him, Martin O'Malley is making what sounds to me like an important and valuable case.

You can see for yourself:

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Response to elleng (Reply #32)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:04 PM

34. You won't get a response, that poster could care less.

Thanks for posting positively about your candidate. Excited to see more people in the race!

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #34)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:09 PM

37. Thanks. I feel a need to explain,

even to 'Kings.'

I'm pleased he's in the race and, along with Bernie, providing fodder for discussion.

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Response to elleng (Reply #37)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:10 PM

38. Me too, IMO the more the merrier and the better the contest is for all of us.

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #10)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:45 PM

29. C'mon. O'Malley's been projecting himself for a good while now

 

I'm not a huge Clinton fan, but claiming O'Malley is a Clinton catspaw is too much.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #29)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:05 PM

35. Yup.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #29)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:10 PM

39. Damn right!

Thanks.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:30 PM

9. "Rival" is an interesting word.

Maybe CNN is making a judgment. Senator Sanders (I-VT) was just on their channel.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #9)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:34 PM

11. Agree, and if they are making a Judgement....

Instead of reporting the News, that is not the ethics of Journalism. Entertainment, yes. Journalism no -- and CNN should be looked at as a Entertainment, not News Network. Maybe on the line of Faux News.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:44 PM

14. .

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #14)

Sun May 24, 2015, 07:52 PM

15. Do you think it was photo shopped?

That is some serious CT on your part.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #15)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:12 PM

17. Oh, it definitely....

Was not photo-shopped. First, I don't have photoshop on none of my computers, have no idea how to use the program and have the original photo on my phone.

So if the poster thinks this....they are so barking up the wrong tree. Maybe they can find a new tree named "Bernie Sanders is a Real Rival Candidate, Corporate Dem Hillary Clinton Should be Worried About".

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #15)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:06 PM

36. Where did the poster say they thought it was photoshopped...

You sure got a lot of information from those smilies.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #36)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:16 PM

40. The tin foil implication left few options

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #40)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:18 PM

41. And you choose the one that absolutely is *not* what they were thinking.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #41)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:37 PM

44. It was the only thing it could imply

That the poster was crazy for thinking CNN would put up such an outrageous headline excluding the first other candidate to throw his hat in. I assumes the "tin foil CT" was that it was a fake or something.

But I defer to one that apparently (but I am not sure how) believes he is fluent in silly childish non verbal communication.

What do the mysterious graphics say to you? Because to me nothing could be less clear than refusing to even type in a language we can all understand.

Do you have a degree in smilie hieroglyphics perhaps? Is that even a thing?

Why don't you question that the poster is apparently unable to express his/herself in English, choosing instead to confuse us all rather than to jump on me for choosing the most obvious meaning of the intentionally unclear "statement".

That you choose to address me instead, I find intriguing to say the least.

Well professor smilie, translate for us that we all may understand this most profound post that appears to only be clear to you and your deep understanding of childish graphic hieroglyphics.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #44)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:59 PM

45. Professor Smilie it is, thanks.

Usually you have to pay for a few years of college before you get that title.

So let's unpack it.

First we have the OP:



Main points:

Hey CNN, Bernie Sanders is Running For President of the United States!!


Which make this picture, taken from my cell phone either full of straight up propaganda, done on purpose or better yet - a combination of both!


Then we get to the post in question:



Main points:

Translate that to "silly"


Translate that to "tin foil hat"


Now as a professor in Smilie use (remember you appointed me this) I translate that posters smilie though process into thinking that the OP may be experiencing a perceived media bias that either doesn't exist at the level they feel, or doesn't matter to the overall electoral process. Now when you look at the timeline it does appear CNN got it wrong, looks like Bernie will formally announce on the 26th and O'Malley on the 30th.. so I would ask what gives? Could it be an error? Maybe, maybe not?

What I will say... and again this is acting in my position as professor of smilies that you appointed me too even Bernie doesn't feel there is a media bias, and he is happy with the level of coverage he has been receiving. Here is a quote from today's interview on (wait for it...) you guessed it CNN where he says just as much:

STELTER: With your campaign now a few weeks in, are you finding that the media is taking it seriously or are you finding they’re using you only as a foil to Hillary Clinton to get headlines?

SANDERS: I think we are doing pretty well. And I think the media — we have gotten more serious discussion on our issues than I might have thought about.

But this is what I worry about. In terms of campaign coverage…

STELTER: Yes.

SANDERS: … there is more coverage about the political gossip of a campaign, about raising money, about polling, about somebody saying something dumb, or some kid works for a campaign sends out something stupid on Facebook, right? We can expect that to be a major story.

But what your job is, what the media’s job is, is to say, look, these are the major issues facing the country. We’re a democracy. People have different points of view. Let’s argue it.


[center][/center]


Go Bernie!

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #45)

Sun May 24, 2015, 11:07 PM

47. I think you give the poster way too much credit, but because the poster lacks communication skills

Your explanation is as good as any. As is mine.

Had the poster used words as you did, we might actual know what was meant rather than guess (how ever "educated" such a guess might be.)

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #47)

Sun May 24, 2015, 11:08 PM

48. I'll turn my title back in now.

Night.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #47)

Mon May 25, 2015, 03:59 AM

50. Good point....

Because as the O.P. of this thread, I was confused on what the reply above meant either. Saw the "Tin Fold Hat", thought it was strange. Your explanation of the post made since to me and hopefully, it was clarified for my behalf. No photoshop, just a camera phone snap shot.

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #14)

Mon May 25, 2015, 10:48 AM

53. it was reported here by others.

conspiracy? yes, the owners of the media ARE perpetrating a conspiracy to thwart democracy.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:19 PM

18. They know alright, they just don't approve.

Just try to imagine the money they stand to take out of their coffers by us electing an anti-citizens united candidate. Nope, the bosses over at CNN cannot like it one bit.

They'll do their part to make sure he never comes close.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:32 PM

20. Boy this is complicated...

CNN doesn't want a serious alternative to Hillary Clinton, and will only follow Bernie Sanders when he attacks Hillary Clinton.

Am I missing something?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:47 PM

30. Not that complicated, if you understand CNN is hoping for a Republican

 

it wants Clinton to be the only visible Democrat, but it also wants her to be weakened and unpopular.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 08:52 PM

21. Bernie Sanders? Isn't he the ice cream guy from Vermont?

 

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:31 PM

24. It's intentional.

Bernie's message is a threat to the power structure, therefore he isn't a candidate.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #24)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:39 PM

27. In term of the country as a whole nobody knows who he is.

its going to take resources to get his name recognition up. You may not like Obama but he ran an incredible campaign. It will take that to win. It will be interesting to see what kind of a campaign Bernie puts together with limited resources.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 09:49 PM

31. Fuck the M$M. nt

 

nt

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:02 PM

33. Interesting comments, with all of the calls cor CNN to apologize we should be expecting apologies

For the incorrect statements made about Hillary.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #33)

Mon May 25, 2015, 04:04 AM

51. Yes, IF....

Hillary entered the campaign second after Bernie was the first opponent and the the third contested O' Malley was referenced as Bernie's "First Rival". In this case the MSM would owe Hillary a big apology.

But, we know the MSM will never apologizr to Bernie as he's not a friend of the Wall Street Publicly Traded Stockholders Media Club. Right Thinkingabout?

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Sun May 24, 2015, 10:31 PM

42. O'Malley is kinda boring, especially with Bernie Sanders out there. I've waited for years!

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #42)

Sun May 24, 2015, 11:07 PM

46. Why do you think he is boring?

Serious question — I have seen this comment a few times. I would like to know why this is being said?

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