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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:32 AM May 2015

Snoop Dogg: I'll be voting for Hillary Clinton



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Snoop Dogg is high on Hillary Clinton.

The “Gin & Juice“ rapper said he’ll be supporting the former secretary of State and Democratic candidate in her 2016 White House bid.

“You know I like to be politically correct, but sometimes I’m politically incorrect,” Snoop Dogg said when asked about his political pick on Bravo’s “Watch What Happens Live” on Sunday. “But I’ll say that I would love to see a woman in office because I feel like we’re at that stage in life to where we need a perspective other than the male’s train of thought.”

“And just to have a woman speaking from a global perspective as far as representing America, I’d love to see that. So I’ll be voting Ms. Clinton,” he added.

Snoop Dogg is the latest high-profile entertainer to throw his support behind Clinton in the last few days. In similar remarks to ITK last week, R&B star Ne-Yo called Clinton “a favorite of mine.


http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/242435-snoop-dogg-ill-be-voting-for-hillary-clinton
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Snoop Dogg: I'll be voting for Hillary Clinton (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 OP
Well that does it, game over! n/t n2doc May 2015 #1
I'm pulling up stakes now madokie May 2015 #2
who the fuck is snoop dog anyway trumad May 2015 #4
LOL madokie May 2015 #13
I think it's like a super duper scooper thing. NYC_SKP May 2015 #47
It would be a he but please feel free to objectify the giftedgirl77 May 2015 #131
Calvin Broadus. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #104
I think its because he's an American who gave his opinion. roguevalley May 2015 #110
LOL! MaggieD May 2015 #137
Yeah, but who is Kim Kardashian voting for? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #3
I don't know but here's their contact information for you to forward your query: DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #7
Lol! whatchamacallit May 2015 #58
I heard that Clint Eastwood is going to endorse Art_from_Ark May 2015 #165
He's rich, he's not concerned about income equity, go for Clinton. NYC_SKP May 2015 #5
He did not come from the 1% Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #9
Just like the Clintons! He's rich now, and wants to keep it. Rich and greedy, vote for Hillary! NYC_SKP May 2015 #24
He was born in abject poverty and was a member of the Rollin ' 20 Crips DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #10
And, just like the Clinton's, he wants to KEEP ALL OF IT. Vote Hillary 2016!!! NYC_SKP May 2015 #28
Do you have evidence that he said he wants to keep all of it or did you make it up on the fly? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #36
Yes, I just called him on my BerniePhone. NYC_SKP May 2015 #38
Thought so./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #39
He gives away a lot of his money. xmas74 May 2015 #149
I hope you realize that telling people they can't keep their money is a losing proposal. JaneyVee May 2015 #40
In this country, nobody keeps their money EXCEPT FOR THE RICH. Loopholes, tax havens. NYC_SKP May 2015 #44
The guy supports 12 charities including... JaneyVee May 2015 #50
next line is... questionseverything May 2015 #79
Thanks for posting that... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #82
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #117
Is it still evil to be rich.... MaggieD May 2015 #138
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #143
Well I don't want to be evil MaggieD May 2015 #144
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #145
Awesome - Thanks! MaggieD May 2015 #146
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #147
If that were true, he would just vote Republican. nt woolldog May 2015 #67
then why did he support Obama and Clinton equally in 2008? CreekDog May 2015 #70
And he endorsed Obama in 012 DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #88
I love how you can't hide that it burns you. NCTraveler May 2015 #84
We can quibble about his lyrics but he's the embodiment of the American Dream./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #87
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #6
No not really. TM99 May 2015 #16
His syntax was actually more impressive than most of the 2016 presidential clown car, just sayin... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #21
I love Snoop's music. TM99 May 2015 #23
Respectfully DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #85
Nice non-sequitor, but TM99 May 2015 #125
How it is a non sequitur? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #126
Presumably Sotomayor also presented more of a resume for herself than just "I am a woman." TM99 May 2015 #129
She didn't refer to her resume DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #132
This still has nothing to do with Snoop. TM99 May 2015 #136
LOL DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #139
You are just being ridiculous now. TM99 May 2015 #140
That isn't a chivalrous way to surrender...I hope you don't take your shtick to Discussionist. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #141
Fromt he MLB baseball strike on DonCoquixote May 2015 #166
I said I have no problem using race and gender as a criterion ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #167
You lost me at "Berniebots" 99Forever May 2015 #19
Lost the DU jury too: Nye Bevan May 2015 #86
Lol Juror #3 whatchamacallit May 2015 #92
Yeah, Bernie Bots is "insulting".. but, when a chunk of DU calls us Obama bots like greenwald Cha May 2015 #124
LOL Jesus Malverde May 2015 #142
I knew this would happen to my thread but they aren't going to verbally intimidate me from posting. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #25
I've always respected you as a Democrat Trajan May 2015 #52
behavior trumad May 2015 #65
I would have taken exception to the juror who said I had a "fat fist". DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #89
Douchetastic! n/t whatchamacallit May 2015 #60
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious May 2015 #91
Juror 3 is politically incorrect DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #95
A 1% er who supports Hillary....I'm shocked imnew May 2015 #8
The biography of a 1% er DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #17
Irrelevant fail. n/t Dawgs May 2015 #27
Elaborate DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #71
The point made was that he was a 1%er. Nothing more. His background is irrelevant. n/t Dawgs May 2015 #72
Then the fact he is wealthy is of no more moment than the color of his eyes.... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #73
I don't know. You'd have to ask him. Dawgs May 2015 #74
Well DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #76
Maybe. Again, I (or you) don't know. n/t Dawgs May 2015 #77
Welcome to DU... SidDithers May 2015 #80
if that's his only motivation then why is he supporting her? CreekDog May 2015 #108
So the only reason he is voting for her TM99 May 2015 #11
I don't think that illustrating support for a candidate due to A denies that same support due to B.. LanternWaste May 2015 #29
Nice try with the logic but sadly a fail. TM99 May 2015 #33
Who!? 99Forever May 2015 #12
You cared enough to post DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #14
And just what the fuck is that supposed to mean. 99Forever May 2015 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #37
Sure trumad May 2015 #56
Seriously? woolldog May 2015 #15
Maybe he's into the oeuvre of Justin Bieber DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #18
... woolldog May 2015 #66
I feel bad that I got heated with him but he's always snapping at people... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #68
Not at all surprised you don't know "who" he is. But his vast fanbase sure does. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #102
The Endorsement of a Misogynistic Bigot Doesn't Mean Much TheSarcastinator May 2015 #20
That criticism could easily be lodged at most rappers , at least clearly a majority of them.../NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #22
yes, and? TheSarcastinator May 2015 #26
She didn't solicit his endorsement DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #32
Rick Ross and Lil'Wayne are to Snoop what Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady were to Michael Jordan./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #115
Be sure and let us know if you see crowing. LanternWaste May 2015 #31
His money will be safe with her for sure. onecaliberal May 2015 #30
He escaped absolutely shitty conditions to amass a small fortune. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #34
I never said a thing about how he got his money. onecaliberal May 2015 #106
She is supported by over sixty percent of Democrats... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #112
Coming from where he came, ending up where he is, in a VERY racist country full of white randys1 May 2015 #128
i read somewhere he was a repug - glad to see that was false samsingh May 2015 #41
He endorsed this century's greatest president in 2012. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #46
thanks samsingh May 2015 #63
No problem... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #64
repugs are desparate to have any star power endorse them samsingh May 2015 #75
They have Stacey Dash, Adam Sandler, and Kelsey Grammer too./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #78
It's kind of sickening if the president being a woman is the only thing on his mind. That's just sad NYC_SKP May 2015 #42
If you've seen his body of work. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #45
DU was all aflutter when Eminem endorsed Kerry in 04 and some of his lyrics were misogynistic DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #48
I think it's called cognitive dissonance. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #54
I know... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #57
Remember when Eazy E bought his way into the whitehouse. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #59
I will view it later...He paid his way into a Republican fundraiser. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #62
Oh, I have. I posted a couple lines from "Lay Low", quite disgusting lyrics. NYC_SKP May 2015 #49
Enjoy! Jesus Malverde May 2015 #51
8/14 DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #93
Can't wait Jesus Malverde May 2015 #96
I saw the trailer at the movie... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #98
I liked Ice Cube's work better DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #101
I get the impression you didn't read the editorial you just cited. OilemFirchen May 2015 #152
Whats your point. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #154
Yes, you clearly made your point. OilemFirchen May 2015 #155
. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #156
A little bedtime read from your link: OilemFirchen May 2015 #157
What in the world does that have to do with snoop being a former pimp and world class misogynist?... Jesus Malverde May 2015 #158
You helped derail the conversation. OilemFirchen May 2015 #159
The nineties are calling Jesus Malverde May 2015 #43
Who lett the Dogg outt? Fumesucker May 2015 #53
Isn't he a convicted felon? cwydro May 2015 #55
Not sure he's a felons but felons can have their rights restored and vote... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #97
Perhaps he's had his restored. cwydro May 2015 #100
He sounds like quite the nice fellow imnew May 2015 #121
I know. cwydro May 2015 #122
voting for Clinton makes one politically incorrect? Doctor_J May 2015 #61
I'm going to wait and see which way Hootie and the Blowfish go. TwilightGardener May 2015 #69
It is America and Mr Dogg is free to vote for whomever he pleases tularetom May 2015 #81
Its For the lulz Jesus Malverde May 2015 #90
Unless Bernie wins the primary AgingAmerican May 2015 #83
And we should care, why? nt truebluegreen May 2015 #94
Thank you for kicking my thread DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #99
oooooh, burn truebluegreen May 2015 #109
Wow, you're so cool...You're my DU hero... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #111
What's funny to me is ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #118
If you are posting solely for yourself... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #120
Boy oh boy, a Black man with an opinion sure as hell gets this place all riled up, eh! randys1 May 2015 #127
But drugs ... and ... and ... bad words ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #130
Of all the rappers, Blue_In_AK May 2015 #103
I like him too. Funny story I don't mind sharing... NYC_SKP May 2015 #133
Wow! Blue_In_AK May 2015 #134
LOL. No second date. Another woman I was talking to never made a first date. NYC_SKP May 2015 #135
O M G! Can someone really be that clueless?! Blue_In_AK May 2015 #148
Good on him! Scurrilous May 2015 #105
Lol, make sure to make a post of every single celeb who likes hillary! Nt Logical May 2015 #107
Lol, I will. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #113
Snoop will change his mind after he puts the hash pipe down and sobers up. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #114
Was he high when he endorsed Obama? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #116
Well shit, I will have to vote HRC now PowerToThePeople May 2015 #119
Thank you for kicking my thread... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #123
Who cares? WestSideStory May 2015 #150
I thought he changed his name to "Snoop Lion" Warren DeMontague May 2015 #151
Makes sense - he made his bones (ha!) sampling George Clinton. cemaphonic May 2015 #153
The man who got famous awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #160
He still talks like that too. Every week on his show. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #162
It is why I can't take hip hop seriously awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #163
Um...well I like rap & hip hop... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #164
I'm sad to hear this but he probably doesn't know Bernie is running... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #161

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. I'm pulling up stakes now
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:39 AM
May 2015

no sense going any further.

who the fuck is snoop dog anyway and what makes him think anyone with somewhat of a working brain gives a flying fuck what he thinks

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
47. I think it's like a super duper scooper thing.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:31 AM
May 2015

And it's endorsed clinton, which is good I guess.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
131. It would be a he but please feel free to objectify the
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:27 PM
May 2015

successful black man just because he endorsed HRC.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
104. Calvin Broadus.
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:34 PM
May 2015

From Calvin's Wiki:

Shortly after graduating from high school, he was arrested for possession of cocaine and for the following three years was frequently in and out of prison.[9] In 1990, he was convicted of felony possession of drugs and possession for sale.[101]

While recording Doggystylein August 1993, Snoop Dogg was arrested in connection with the death of Phillip Woldermariam, a member of a rival gang who was shot and killed by Snoop's bodyguard, McKinley Lee; Snoop was charged with murder along with Lee as he was driving the vehicle from which the shooting had commenced. Snoop and Lee were defended by Johnnie Cochran.[102] Both Snoop and Lee were acquitted; Lee was acquitted on grounds of self-defense, but Snoop Dogg remained entangled in the legal battles around the case for three years.[103]

In July 1993, Snoop was stopped for a traffic violation and a firearm was found by police while conducting a search of his car. In February 1997, he pleaded guilty to possession of a handgun and was ordered to record three public service announcements, pay a $1,000 fine, and serve three years' probation.[104][105][106]

Snoop Dogg, Tha Dogg Pound, and The Gamewere sued for assaulting a fan on stage at a May 2005 concert at the White River Amphitheatre in Auburn, Washington. The accuser, Richard Monroe, Jr., claimed he was beaten by the artists' entourage while mounting the stage, allegedly after an "open invite".[107] The lawsuit, which sought $22 million in damages, was dismissed in 2009.[108]

In September 2006, Snoop Dogg was detained at John Wayne Airport in Orange County, California by airport security, after airport screeners found a collapsible police baton in Snoop's carry-on bag. Donald Etra, Snoop's lawyer, told deputies the baton was a prop for a musical sketch. Snoop was sentenced to three years' probation and 160 hours of community service for the incident starting in September 2007.[109]Snoop Dogg was arrested again October 2006 at Bob Hope Airport in Burbankafter being stopped for a traffic infraction; he was found in possession of marijuana and a firearm, according to a police statement. The following month, after performing onThe Tonight Show with Jay Leno, he was arrested again for possession of marijuana and a firearm.[110] In April 2007, he was sentenced to a three-year suspended sentence, five years' probation, and was required to perform 800 hours of community service after pleading no contest to two felony charges of drug and gun possession by a convicted felon.[101]

In April 26, 2006, Snoop Dogg and members of his entourage were arrested after being turned away from British Airways' first class lounge at Heathrow Airport. Snoop and his party were denied entry to the lounge due to some members flying in economy class. After being escorted outside, the group vandalized a duty-free shop with whiskey bottles. Seven police officers were injured in the midst of the disturbance. After a night in jail, Snoop and the other men were released on bail the next day, but he was unable to perform a scheduled concert inJohannesburg.[111] On May 15, the Home Officedecided that Snoop Dogg would be denied entry to the United Kingdom for the foreseeable future, and his British visa was denied the following year.[112][113][114]As of March 2010, Snoop Dogg has been allowed back into the UK.[115] The group involved in the incident have been banned by British Airways for "the foreseeable future."[116]

In April 2007, the Australian Department of Immigration and Citizenship banned him from entering the country on character grounds, citing his prior criminal convictions. He had been scheduled to appear at theMTV Australia Video Music Awards on April 29, 2007.[117] AustralianDepartment of Immigration and Citizenship lifted the ban in September 2008 and had granted him visa to tour Australia. DIAC said: "In making this decision, the department weighed his criminal convictions against his previous behaviour while in Australia, recent conduct – including charity work – and any likely risk to the Australian community ... We took into account all relevant factors and, on balance, the department decided to grant the visa."[118]

He was banned from entering Norway for two years in July 2012 after entering the country the month before in possession of 8 grams of weed and an undeclaredkr 227,000 in cash.[119][120][121]

Snoop Dogg has also been arrested and fined for misdemeanor marijuana possession in Los Angeles in 1998,[122] in Cleveland in 2001,[123] and Sierra Blanca, Texas in 2010.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
110. I think its because he's an American who gave his opinion.
Wed May 20, 2015, 04:31 PM
May 2015

I don't think he's right but he is rather conservative in some ways. I'm not sure the endorsement of a guy who was tried for murder and glorified being a pimp is good but more power to him.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
5. He's rich, he's not concerned about income equity, go for Clinton.
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:43 AM
May 2015

It makes perfect sense.

I like Snoop's rhymes, but I gotta call him on his sexist lyrics:


For the b---- that said I shot some shit up out of my dick
Now she sick, she better LAY LOW



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. He was born in abject poverty and was a member of the Rollin ' 20 Crips
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:49 AM
May 2015

He's rich by the dint of hard work married to God given talent.


xmas74

(29,673 posts)
149. He gives away a lot of his money.
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:48 PM
May 2015

Ever seen what he's done for youth football in LA?

http://snoopyfl.net/page.php?page_id=39811

In this year alone, 24 kids who played in his league have signed with DI schools to play football, including his own son. Not bad.

http://snoopyfl.net/news.php?news_id=1096470

(In case anyone says that he keeps all of his money-here's a good example of one of the ways he gives back.)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
44. In this country, nobody keeps their money EXCEPT FOR THE RICH. Loopholes, tax havens.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:26 AM
May 2015

Hell, the tax code is written for the rich and by the rich to suck as much as possible from the wage earners to offset the tax breaks.

Good grief, look into this.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
50. The guy supports 12 charities including...
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:36 AM
May 2015

Habitat for humanity, childrens hospitals, environmental causes like ORCA network, etc. etc. Maybe it's time to stop demonizing people who earn their money and give back to their country.

questionseverything

(9,646 posts)
79. next line is...
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:55 AM
May 2015

they are job creators?

did i fall into repub territory?

listen the reason the 99% want to tax the 1% is , they are the only ones with money!!!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
82. Thanks for posting that...
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:58 AM
May 2015

He is an appealing figure...

Some of his content can be deemed offensive but that's as much a reflection of his genre as it is of him.


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
117. Thank you ...
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:28 PM
May 2015

but didn't you get the memo ... everyone earning (or that has) more than me is evil. And everyone that makes less than me should revere me as an/the unselfish warrior for their interests!

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
138. Is it still evil to be rich....
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:55 PM
May 2015

.... If you pay more taxes than Boeing or GE? Who pay none. Inquiring minds want to know.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
143. Yes ...
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:19 PM
May 2015

The beef is not what you pay ... the beef is that you have more than ME!

Once I have more than you; then, being rich won't be an issue I will hear ... the gate at the entrance of my new community will keep the issue far, far away ... and what little that might drift over the gate to my private residence, will be drown out by the hot tub pump and the clinking of High Ball glasses.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
144. Well I don't want to be evil
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:45 PM
May 2015

I guess I have no choice but to lay off all my workers, shut my business down, and give away all my worldly possessions! Then I will be pure once more. LOL!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
145. Well ...
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:05 PM
May 2015

you won't be evil ... so long as some anonymous DU progressive poster makes more than you. By my calculation, you're good if you make $139,999/year ... just outside the top 10%! ... I dollar or two more and you would be competing against the 10%er fighting the 1%ers.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
84. I love how you can't hide that it burns you.
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:02 PM
May 2015

To the point you go around attacking extremely hard working individuals, with philanthropic ambitions for their wealth, who started life with nothing.

You aren't aware of it yet, but the Clinton campaign appreciates your toxic words. It is the mindset you carry, just on a scale where people actually care, where Hillary gets her favorability from. The Clinton campaign thanks you. Please continue attacking AA's who have brought themselves up from poverty against all odds. That is your wheelhouse.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
16. No not really.
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:59 AM
May 2015

I already have all of Snoop's music.

And if his only reason for voting for Sanders was because he wants an older white male perspective on politics, I would think he was just as ignorant and uninformed as I do his preference for Clinton based on her gender.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
21. His syntax was actually more impressive than most of the 2016 presidential clown car, just sayin...
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:06 AM
May 2015

He's actually a funny and witty guy...I heard him a couple of times on the Howard Stern show back in the 90s and he was really funny and insightful.


 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
23. I love Snoop's music.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:08 AM
May 2015

But his reasons for voting for Clinton have little to nothing to do with her policies and positions and rather are about her gender.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
85. Respectfully
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:04 PM
May 2015

When Sonia Sotomayor said "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life " folks here defended her from right wing attacks.


 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
125. Nice non-sequitor, but
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:08 PM
May 2015

it has nothing to do with Snoop and his ringing endorsement of Clinton just because she is a woman.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
126. How it is a non sequitur?
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:15 PM
May 2015

Ms. Sotomayor said she would be a better jurist than a white male because of her race and gender which I don't totally agree with... I would agree that diversity improves an institution because the more viewpoints the better...

All Mr. Broadus said is he is supporting Secretary OF state Clinton because the institution of the presidency would benefit from having a woman at the helm.


 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
129. Presumably Sotomayor also presented more of a resume for herself than just "I am a woman."
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:22 PM
May 2015

Choosing any leader solely on the basis of their gender is a non-starter for me.

Snoop did not give any other reasons why Clinton was his choice.

Get it now?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
132. She didn't refer to her resume
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:27 PM
May 2015

Here's her quote:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."



I don't see a reference to her resume or curriculum vitae.


I used to hire people...All things being equal I always hired the minority applicant because I felt they worked harder to get where they were but Ms. Sotomayor's formulation is a bit stark.



 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
136. This still has nothing to do with Snoop.
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:49 PM
May 2015

Get off your soapbox and back on topic.

Sotomayor was speaking about herself AFTER her resume got her to the consideration of the position. There is and was more to her than just being a Hispanic woman.

Snoopo is speaking about Clinton. He does not reference her positions, her policies, etc. He only says that what he thinks would make her the best candidate is her feminity.

Not. The. Same. Thing.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
139. LOL
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:57 PM
May 2015

I would literally rather take a cap in my ear than walk away from the truth.



"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

-Sonia Sotomayor

Move along, no reference to gender, nothing to see here...

Who should I believe? Some random internet poster or my lying eyes?



"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."


-John Adams








DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
141. That isn't a chivalrous way to surrender...I hope you don't take your shtick to Discussionist.
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:06 PM
May 2015

That isn't a chivalrous way to surrender...I hope you don't take your shtick to Discussionist. Your abysmal rhetorical skills would be an embarrassment to our side.


Bye Bye!

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
166. Fromt he MLB baseball strike on
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:34 AM
May 2015

Ms. Sotomayor had a resume that was thicker than many currently on the court.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/26/sotomayor.resume/index.html

But she knew that even when a minority has a thick resume, they are not favored as much as their majority counterpart.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
167. I said I have no problem using race and gender as a criterion ...
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:11 AM
May 2015

I said , ad infinitum and ad nauseum, I have no problem using race and gender as a criterion when it comes to hiring because folks need their professions and institutions to look like them ... In fact in this very thread I said I used it myself when making hiring decisions.

I just pointed out it shouldn't cause folks agita because Snoop said he would vote for Hillary because she's a woman.

Some times you arrive at truth in a funny way. You could say that Ms. Clinton has a thicker resume than all the other candidates, Democratic and Republican, who are running for president in 2016.




Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
86. Lost the DU jury too:
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:07 PM
May 2015

On Wed May 20, 2015, 11:56 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

That's the funny thing about you Bernie-Bots.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6699746

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Trumad just smashes the keypad with his fat fist. There's no art to that.


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Cha

(297,123 posts)
124. Yeah, Bernie Bots is "insulting".. but, when a chunk of DU calls us Obama bots like greenwald
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:28 PM
May 2015

started.. that's okay.

I don't alert on anything unless it's some rw troll seeped in through the discussionist. But, some are sooooooooo sensitive except when they're doing the insulting.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
52. I've always respected you as a Democrat
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:43 AM
May 2015

But now I see you are an extreme partisan ...

And a mean one at that ....

Bernie supporters = Paul supporters ? ... really ?

This is beneath my image of you, but that image just degraded ... oh well ...

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
91. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:17 PM
May 2015
On Wed May 20, 2015, 11:56 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

That's the funny thing about you Bernie-Bots.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6699746

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Divisive trollery.

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Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Of course it's divisive trollery - that's Trumad's M.O.
Some people are more subtle with their trollery. There's an art to it.

Trumad just smashes the keypad with his fat fist. There's no art to that.


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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
95. Juror 3 is politically incorrect
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:27 PM
May 2015
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Of course it's divisive trollery - that's Trumad's M.O.
Some people are more subtle with their trollery. There's an art to it.

Trumad just smashes the keypad with his fat fist. There's no art to that




The politically correct and appropriate word is ample.


#lol@me

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. The biography of a 1% er
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:00 AM
May 2015

Broadus was born October 20, 1971, at the Los Altos Hospital in Long Beach, California, the second of three sons. He was named after his stepfather, Calvin Cordozar Broadus, Sr. (December 10, 1948 – November 9, 1985, Los Angeles). His mother is Beverly Broadus (née Tate; born April 27, 1951, McComb, Mississippi)] His father, Vernall Varnado (born December 13, 1949, Magnolia, Mississippi), was a Vietnam veteran, singer, and mail carrier who was said to be frequently absent from his life.[8] As a boy, his parents nicknamed him "Snoopy" because of his appearance, but they usually addressed him as Calvin at home. His mother and stepfather divorced in 1975.

At an early age, Broadus began singing in Golgotha Trinity Baptist Church and playing piano; when he was in sixth grade, he began rapping. He attended Long Beach Polytechnic High School, graduating class of 1989.

As a teenager, Snoop Dogg frequently ran into trouble with the law. He was a member of the Rollin' 20 Crips gang in the Eastside of Long Beach, although he stated in 1993 that he never joined a gang. Shortly after graduating from high school, he was arrested for possession of cocaine, and for the following three years was frequently in and out of prison (including Wayside Jail). Snoop, along with his cousins Nate Dogg and Lil' ½ Dead and friend Warren G, recorded homemade tapes as a group called 213, named after the Long Beach area code at the time. One of his early solo freestyles over En Vogue's "Hold On" had made it to a mixtape which was heard by influential producer Dr. Dre, who phoned to invite him to an audition. Former N.W.A member The D.O.C. taught him how to structure his lyrics and separate the thematics into verses, hooks and chorus.



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
71. Elaborate
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:24 AM
May 2015

If his raison d'etre was to protect his wealth and pass it on to his children there are a lot more candidates he could support who offer the prospect of doing so more than Secretary of State Clinton.



BTW, you can fit the members of this board who would have made it out of his world in a Mini Cooper.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
73. Then the fact he is wealthy is of no more moment than the color of his eyes....
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:29 AM
May 2015

Then the fact he is a wealthy is of no more moment than the color of his eyes when it comes to which candidate he will support in the upcoming election, am I right?

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
74. I don't know. You'd have to ask him.
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:32 AM
May 2015

He may be supporting Hillary because he thinks she is the best candidate for him because he's in the 1%. He may not. I don't know.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
76. Well
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:50 AM
May 2015

Let's stipulate that Mr. Broadus is a shrewd businessman with a great deal of native intelligence that he married to God given lyrical and musical talent. He would not have got from where he was to where he is if he wasn't. A man of his business acumen would be aware that there are candidates who would be much more sympathetic to protecting his wealth and others in his economic bracket and the propagation of it than Secretary Of State Clinton.

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." Maybe Mr. Broadus supports the Secretary Of State because her and her husband were/are immensely popular in the community where he was raised and that informs his views...You can bookmark this post. That's why Ms. Clinton will receive over ninety percent of the vote in the precinct where he was raised in the primaries and the general election.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
108. if that's his only motivation then why is he supporting her?
Wed May 20, 2015, 03:55 PM
May 2015

and not someone who will eliminate the Estate Tax and other taxes that favor the wealthy?

maybe because your meme is broken.

nice try. your name is "imnew". does that mean you are "new"?

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
11. So the only reason he is voting for her
Wed May 20, 2015, 09:51 AM
May 2015

is because she is a woman?

Nothing about policies I see. Nothing about positions I see. Just because she is a woman.

Yeah, ok.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. I don't think that illustrating support for a candidate due to A denies that same support due to B..
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:11 AM
May 2015

I don't think that illustrating support for a candidate due to A denies that same support due to B, C or D. However, if deductive fallacies assist one's bias, go for it.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
35. And just what the fuck is that supposed to mean.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:18 AM
May 2015

You understand the concept of "discussion board", right?

Response to 99Forever (Reply #35)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
68. I feel bad that I got heated with him but he's always snapping at people...
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:16 AM
May 2015

I wouldn't recommend rap for him because he is already agitated...Maybe Yanni would calm him:


Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
102. Not at all surprised you don't know "who" he is. But his vast fanbase sure does.
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:10 PM
May 2015

Do you think you're actually converting anyone? Good luck to Bernie. He's gonna need it.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
20. The Endorsement of a Misogynistic Bigot Doesn't Mean Much
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:05 AM
May 2015

Snoop is a misogynist who has for decades casually referred to women as whores and bitches. He's also a widely acknowledged homophobic bigot. Hillary supporters should not crow too loudly about this one.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
32. She didn't solicit his endorsement
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:12 AM
May 2015

Snoop Dogg ne Calvin Broadus endorsed Secretary Of State Clinton on his own.


It is interesting that folks here didn't have the same agita when Marshall Mathers endorsed John Kerry in 2004.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. Be sure and let us know if you see crowing.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:12 AM
May 2015

Be sure and let us know if, when and where you see crowing.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
34. He escaped absolutely shitty conditions to amass a small fortune.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:17 AM
May 2015

I rather see him rich than some clown who inherited all his dough.


onecaliberal

(32,816 posts)
106. I never said a thing about how he got his money.
Wed May 20, 2015, 03:44 PM
May 2015

It seems you also assume other facts not in evidence. Hillary is by, of, and for wealth, which snoop is one of. Of course she is his candidate. I have no issue with the fact that he has money.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
112. She is supported by over sixty percent of Democrats...
Wed May 20, 2015, 04:56 PM
May 2015

She is supported by over sixty percent of Democrats:


http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary


There must be a lot of wealthy Democrats...

Oh, she is viewed favorably or very favorably dy 77% of African Americans and 61% of my Latino brothers and sisters (pg.86) :


https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ihh96gmssm/econTabReport.pdf

They will be overjoyed to learn they are wealthy...






randys1

(16,286 posts)
128. Coming from where he came, ending up where he is, in a VERY racist country full of white
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:22 PM
May 2015

privilege everywhere you look, it is rather amazing what he has accomplished.

Some will focus only on his criminal period, I would like to see them survive what he came thru and do it squeaky clean.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
64. No problem...
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:10 AM
May 2015

I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans tried to appropriate him to give them a modicum of street cred the way Marco Rubio holds himself out as a Tupac aficionado.



samsingh

(17,594 posts)
75. repugs are desparate to have any star power endorse them
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:47 AM
May 2015

they're left with senile fools like
eastwood and chuck norris

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
42. It's kind of sickening if the president being a woman is the only thing on his mind. That's just sad
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:24 AM
May 2015

There's a lot of that sadness going around.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
45. If you've seen his body of work.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:30 AM
May 2015

Women are on his mind. Just not in a progressive way.

White singers deserve the same scrutiny for sexism as Snoop Dogg

Yesterday, Snoop Lion (formerly Snoop Dogg, real name Calvin Broadus) had been granted a visa to perform at this year’s Big Day Out festival. This was despite of the efforts of Collective Shout, an activist group against the objectification and sexualisation of women which petitioned to have his visa refused on the basis of lyrics' misogyny, his criminal history and his previous work as a pimp.

This is not the first time the organisation has protested against an artist on the basis of them glorifying violence against women. In 2013, Collective Shout called on the Australia government to revoke the visa of rapper Tyler the Creator. His music is relatively well known outside his fan base due to its graphic depictions of rape and murder (though it has been noted that he has toned his lyrics down on his latest album). In 2011, the organisation co-sponsored a petition against another rapper, Kanye West, to block his music video for Monster due to its eroticised violence.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/16/white-singers-deserve-the-same-scrutiny-for-sexism-as-snoop-dogg

It's like an endorsement from suge knight

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
48. DU was all aflutter when Eminem endorsed Kerry in 04 and some of his lyrics were misogynistic
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:35 AM
May 2015

DU was all aflutter when Eminem endorsed Kerry in 04 and some of his lyrics were misogynistic and homophobic and misogynistic, if not more so...


More double standards from the denizens of DU.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
57. I know...
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:53 AM
May 2015

I enjoy rap...Of course I don't dig homophobia, misogyny, anti-semitism, and other forms of bigotry...So I am conflicted...

I am an old head so I am more partial to the rap of yore; Tupac, NWA, PE, Eminem, et cetera.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
62. I will view it later...He paid his way into a Republican fundraiser.
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:03 AM
May 2015

I saw Public Enemy at an Orlando nightclub in 1990. Their music actually talked about empowering women but there was a touch of homophobia and anti-semitism in it... That's why I was conflicted about it...But it seems to be an enduring and evolving genre. You can trace it all the way back to the Sugar Hill Gang.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
49. Oh, I have. I posted a couple lines from "Lay Low", quite disgusting lyrics.
Wed May 20, 2015, 10:35 AM
May 2015

Though I have the song and I like the beat and the melody.

But the B word and talk about S--- shooting up outta his D--- and that she better Lay Low are, well.

You know.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
98. I saw the trailer at the movie...
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:38 PM
May 2015

They were hot at the same time Public Enemy was...I leaned to the latter because their music was more political but I believe NWA had the better beat.

Ice Cube is played by his son. My gf and I rented a room from a woman in Van Nuys whose daughter went to high school with him. She was his friend and went to a Lakers game with him... Her mom said they had a lot of security. She also said Ice Cube is very strict...When her daughter asked him if she could call him Cube he told her his name is Mr. Jackson.


OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
157. A little bedtime read from your link:
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:00 AM
May 2015
However, it is a mistake to view hip hop as a homogenous style of music that is inherently anti-women. As bell hooks stated:

"Without a doubt black males, young and old, must be held politically accountable for their sexism. Yet this critique must always be contextualised or we risk making it appear that the behaviours this thinking supports and condones – rape, male violence against women, etc – is a black male thing. And this is what is happening. Young black males are forced to take the 'heat' for encouraging, via their music, the hatred of and violence against women that is a central core of patriarchy."

Collective Shout’s petition to revoke Snoop Lion’s visa states, “as a society which claims to be serious about eradicating violence against women, there should be no place for recording artists who glorify misogyny and degrade women for entertainment”.

So if we agree with this statement, then not only would there be no place for the rappers mentioned above, but also:

What follows is a (clearly truncated) list of a dozen bands or artists guilty of violent misogynistic lyrics and five contemporary artists guilty of domestic violence. They are, notably, not black.

Your excision exemplifies the editorial's central tenet.

Sleep tight.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
158. What in the world does that have to do with snoop being a former pimp and world class misogynist?...
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:18 AM
May 2015

Are those other bands relevant to the conversation, are they being touted as hip endorsements for Hillary? Should we give snoop a pass cause white bands are misogynist too?

I think you missed the point completely, maybe you forgot what this thread was about.

It's mid day here in Japan. I have a lot to do before bedtime.

Whoosh

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
159. You helped derail the conversation.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:30 AM
May 2015

You picked the cite. The excerpt you chose was an indictment of your specific contempt, as the editorial indicates.

I didn't miss the point at all.

It's 1:30 AM here. 'Night.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
97. Not sure he's a felons but felons can have their rights restored and vote...
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:31 PM
May 2015

My friend is a an ex-felon and votes in Nevada. He just can't own a gun.

 

imnew

(93 posts)
121. He sounds like quite the nice fellow
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:01 PM
May 2015
http://crime.about.com/od/famousdiduno/ig/mugshots_rap_hip_rb/snoop.htm


•August 2003 - Snoop was named in an affidavit claiming that he and the makers of the "Girls Gone Wild: Doggy Style" tape lured two underage girls to take their tops off for the camera by offering them marijuana and ecstasy. The suit was settled in July 2004.


•August 1993 - Snoop was charged for being an accomplice to the murder of Phillip Woldermarian. In February 1996, with the help of attorney Jonnie Cochran, Snoop was found not guilty of all charges but voluntary manslaughter, on which the jury deadlocked
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
122. I know.
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:03 PM
May 2015

It seems unlikely that he's had his rights restored because he's continued to run afoul of the law into 2010 and after.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
81. It is America and Mr Dogg is free to vote for whomever he pleases
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:57 AM
May 2015

Although it is surprising that 75 people on DU actually give a flying fuck about it, enough to comment.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
118. What's funny to me is ...
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:36 PM
May 2015

those saying "Who is he" and "Why should I care what he thinks", spend the internet days forming much of their political opinions by reading anonymous posters and don't seem to care that they really don't know what that anonymous poster thinks.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
120. If you are posting solely for yourself...
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:58 PM
May 2015

If you are posting solely for yourself wouldn't that be a form of masturbation?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
130. But drugs ... and ... and ... bad words ...
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:26 PM
May 2015

even, misogyny ... but mostly ... he didn't come out for Bernie.

I'm pretty certain that if Snoop has ... someone on DU would have been telling me that I should support Bernie cuz Snoop does.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
133. I like him too. Funny story I don't mind sharing...
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:38 PM
May 2015

And, BTW, I haven't been asked to come up to Anchorage again, yet, for that conference but I'm hoping I will.

Anyway, about 10 years ago I was trying out Internet dating, had lunch with a woman who worked for Gallo Wines in Modesto.

She asked what CD I was listening to in my car driving down. It happened to be a mix with some Eminem and Snoop, a student burned it for me.

When I told her the answer, she replied, "Oh, I won't let my kids listen to that nig*** music".

Thankfully, lunch was about done and I said I had to go, and I got up and went.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
135. LOL. No second date. Another woman I was talking to never made a first date.
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:45 PM
May 2015

She lived in Sonora, a gold rush town near here.

We were in the chatting room, I had plans to join a friend who had tickets for an afternoon with the Dalai Lama at the Shoreline Amphitheater, a place that usually has music acts.

"So, NYC, what are you doing this weekend?"

"I'm going to see the Dalai Lama at the Shoreline Amphitheater."

"Oh! What kind of music do they play?"

..

..

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
123. Thank you for kicking my thread...
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:05 PM
May 2015

When I return I will be more than glad to read the patronizing remark you left for me.


Thank you in advance.


KISSES
DemocratSinceBirth

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
153. Makes sense - he made his bones (ha!) sampling George Clinton.
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:05 AM
May 2015

Bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yey.

Snoop always seemed a little more self-aware than the other gangsta rappers of the late 80s-early 90s.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
164. Um...well I like rap & hip hop...
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:10 AM
May 2015

just the whole bitches and hos thing should be buried. And like if you take a look at any genre, like rock music for example, you will find tons of garbage.

But also there is a lot of great hip hop that is socially conscious or political. It doesn't get as much attention and promotion though. And then there is a lot that is just fun or neutral.

And honestly I actually do like Snoop Dogg but

1) Not enough to take his political advice and
2) He should stop calling women bitches and hos

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