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Sun May 17, 2015, 09:33 PM

RW media may not believe climate change is real. But sure looks like Shell believes it. Smoking gun.


Royal Dutch Shell has been accused of pursuing a strategy that would lead to potentially catastrophic climate change after an internal document acknowledged a global temperature rise of 4C, twice the level considered safe for the planet.

A paper used for guiding future business planning at the Anglo-Dutch multinational assumes that carbon dioxide emissions will fail to limit temperature increases to 2C, the internationally agreed threshold to prevent widespread flooding, famine and desertification.

Instead, the New Lens Scenarios document refers to a forecast by the independent International Energy Agency (IEA) that points to a temperature rise of up to 4C in the short term, rising later to 6C.

The revelations come ahead of the annual general meeting of Shell shareholders in the Netherlands on Tuesday, where the group has accepted a shareholder resolution demanding more transparency about the groupís impact on climate change.


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/17/shell-accused-of-strategy-risking-catastrophic-climate-change?CMP=share_btn_tw

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/17/1385496/-Shell-Oil-Caught-Planning-for-Deadly-4-to-6-Degree-Rise-in-Global-Temperature

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Reply RW media may not believe climate change is real. But sure looks like Shell believes it. Smoking gun. (Original post)
kpete May 2015 OP
hatrack May 2015 #1
Omaha Steve May 2015 #2
Fred Sanders May 2015 #3
nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #4
sadoldgirl May 2015 #5
nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #6
cui bono May 2015 #7
KT2000 May 2015 #8
Moostache May 2015 #9
Overseas May 2015 #10
Initech May 2015 #11
Ford_Prefect May 2015 #12
Initech May 2015 #13
Ford_Prefect May 2015 #14

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2015, 09:42 PM

1. Shocking!

Not . . . .

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2015, 10:55 PM

2. K&R!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2015, 11:42 PM

3. The atmosphere of Earth is remarkably thin, the livable troposphere is near invisibly thin:

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2015, 11:46 PM

4. Like Tobacco and lead before them?

 

GAD, I wish I could say I am even a little surprised.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2015, 11:48 PM

5. That will not stop them from drilling

in the arctic and fighting Seattle about their new
oil station.
After all: MONEY!

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #5)

Mon May 18, 2015, 12:03 AM

6. It is not just money... it is THIS QUARTER

 

this is the short thought process we have developed that is a problem. The long view, like ten years from now, let alone 2100 does not exist. After all, those folks will be pushing daisies. (And thankfully so will I)

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #5)

Mon May 18, 2015, 01:03 AM

7. Someone could have stopped them. But chose to allow them instead.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2015, 02:26 AM

8. they see the bright side

they know how to extract oil from the earth. That is all. They know that climate change offers them more opportunities to drill in the Arctic. The military is preparing for climate change and the Navy is in charge of the Arctic.
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp%3Fstory_id%3D79288

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2015, 12:40 PM

9. Until the monetary system is put asunder, reality is whatever the $ says it is.

Sad but true.
Inescapable really.

The thing I find so disheartening, so depressing is the willingness of politicians to be such cheap whores for the $.
They sell out their families, the future, their self-respect, their morals, their supposed principles for a few measly $'s.

The amounts that the corporate elite shell out is a pittance compared to the amount they retain. Look no further than hedge fund managers...making BILLIONS per year, spending a couple MILLION to ensure that their tax bills remain in the THOUSANDS, often times far less than their staff and on a percentage basis, less than the doorman at their private clubs...

The whole thing is madness, but it is madness that has become ingrained in human thought...money...the single most dominant thought for billions of humans. Money to buy food. Money to buy shelter. Money to buy protection. Money to buy services. Money to buy justice. Money to buy the law. Money to buy the government. Money to buy people.

The illusory nature of all these purchases is lost on nearly everyone. No one person "owns" ANYTHING...at best they are renting its temporal possession; but, due to all our personal, imminent demises, time is the only thing that truly "owns". Despite what so many believe on a visceral level, there is no "private property" on a geological time scale.

Money and merit very infrequently converge at least proportionally. Those who have too much of one, usually have a derth of the other...but the fact is no one should need money on this planet. Clean water. Clean air. Ability to shelter and feed each other. Education to expand our MINDS, not just to capture remuneration in exchange of labor.

The things that are truly important are not for sale.

I thought of this yesterday, while looking out the window of my home and watching my two young daughters playing on a blanket in the shade of a tree I had planted some 15 years ago. That tree has grown from seedling to a full shade tree and as my girls played with their dolls and laughed at each others silly songs I was overcome with the reality that that moment, that TIME, can't ever be regained or recaptured. It can be "recreated". It can be imitated. It can even be relived in my mind and through the photos I took of it. But it can't be bought. It can't be sold. It can't be optioned or derivatized. The tree seedling I planted years ago contributed to that moment, but the jobs I have had in the interim, the money I have 'earned' and 'spent' between planting and yesterday...meant nothing. I would trade them all - the cars, the house, the dollars that secured them - to be able to stay in that moment or to return to it 20 years from now.

Time is the one thing that beats everything. We always think we have plenty of it, and it is invariably gone before we know it. My tree, my daughters, my life are passing through time and most days I spend my time thinking about, worrying about, working harder for and getting less of money. This world, in its current state as a host for the kinds of life that can think about and recognize time, is in peril.

We don't have as much time as people might like to believe...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2015, 04:11 PM

10. K&R. Glad the story got out.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2015, 01:52 AM

11. If corporations are people, time to start executing a few of them.

We can start with BP and Shell.

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Response to Initech (Reply #11)

Tue May 19, 2015, 10:55 AM

12. Or you could go to the heart of the beast and gut Halliburton and Carlyle Group.

While you're at it we might save some time by putting News Corp and Fox news out of our misery as well.

Food for thought at least.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #12)

Tue May 19, 2015, 01:19 PM

13. Aren't a lot of those companies controlled by the Saudi royal family?

Maybe we could go even a step further and cut the money supply off at the source.

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Response to Initech (Reply #13)

Tue May 19, 2015, 02:25 PM

14. Is that spelled REGIME CHANGE?

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