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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is what "freedom of press" looks like in 2015.
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Why are you not in The Media Area?:large
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https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/594719754130100225
Please don't use this photo without crediting a young journo who defied orders @Edwinjtorres https://twitter.com/Edwinjtorres/status/594694057001095170
https://twitter.com/shazza_razza/status/594284067140538368
SamKnause
(13,091 posts)49th in the World Press Freedom rankings.
I expect the downward spiral to continue.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)going from memory, We wrote a story on this.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)and sad.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)What the hell is wrong with our nation if reporters can't be there and have access to report?
It's nuts.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)we signed away our rights to sue if we get an ouchie covering these things... everybody who does this, expects to get hurt sooner or later. If you do not, you are delusional, and I should not say everybody... when some reporters show up wearing heels... So only allowing credentialed press (while really problematic from a 1st amendment, since it is nowhere in there that this applies to only credentialed press), I get it from the point of view of liability for cities. I don't agree, but.
Penning press is a problem though, and it is because police knows that in the 1960s there were many problematic pieces of video in the evening news... and we can't have that, now can we?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that the truth is taped! We just can't handle the truth!
I appreciate everyone that is there in the trenches doing the job you do, Nadin. It can't be easy.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it's been mostly pretty easy.
Wildfires so far have been mostly more dangerous. But we are aware of the risks.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but here is one of the multiple lawsuits
http://www.aclu-mo.org/newsviews/2014/12/16/aclu-files-suit-behalf-reporter-who-was-arrested-ferguson
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/10/07/federal-judge-rules-police-violated-amendment-rights-ferguson-protesters.html
https://www.aclu.org/blog/there-no-5-second-rule-first-amendment-ferguson
The problem is that "in the heat of the moment" you are indeed risking arrest. So the balance is... do I get arrested and become part of the story? Or do I stay out and try to continue to document it.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)http://www.democracynow.org/2011/10/3/settlement_reached_over_arrest_of_amy
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Edwin Torres
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The Freep Press is the only business mentioned by name in the Constitution.
ms liberty
(8,572 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)Or are the media folks too afraid to do so for biting the hand that feeds them?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,294 posts)The 'media zone' is a small side-effect of the general removal of rights that the people of Baltimore are suffering.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)And the Dancing Supremes danced for their masters and said, "Hey, it's all right to NOT allow free speech throughout the country and only allow it in certain locations with certain people saying certain things. The GOP is our master." Well they may NOT have said exactly that, but it came very close to that.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/05/27/supreme-court-bush-protest-speech/9172707/
mountain grammy
(26,607 posts)but the corporate supremes are a huge part of the problem.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)It's shameful.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)the gestopo state, forgot about that stinky thing called the First Amendment
fasttense
(17,301 posts)There are 2 parts to free speech that is in the constitution. There is the part that allows for sending speech and there is the part that allows for receiving speech. In the US we mostly focus on the sending and ignore and restrict the receiving.
mountain grammy
(26,607 posts)just takes it because, you know, it's only the first amendment, and they really haven't given as shit about that for the last 30 years or so.
A camera pointed at a cop is the same as a gun in the eyes of many in law enforcement, and they "fear for their lives."
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We must recognize that our freedom has been compromised. If we are to correct it.
While the nation was off "fightin' for our freedumbs" we turned around and found them to be gone.
WTF?
Way to go Bush, you fucking ninny.
intheflow
(28,452 posts)Most troubling image I've seen all morning.
certainot
(9,090 posts)1000 radio stations out there demonize the "liberal media" on a daily basis. those radio stations and their ignorant liars give the loudest and most coordinated interpretations and response to protests in america. it worked to kill OWS and the billionaires' think tanks will keep defining what is and isn't acceptable in america if the left keeps letting them.
to fix this slide into fascism the 'left' and dems MUST begin including radio stations and the 90+ universities that endorse them, in civil disobedience. otherwise those 400 blowhards will continue to make it optional for media and politicians to listen to protestors and other activism. by ignoring rw radio the left is allowing a few blowhards yell over and negate thousands of protestors. and they keep up the national buzz for however long it takes to demonize the protestors and distort their message.
team limbaugh blames 'liberal' media for loving the protests and hating the cops. rw radio was critical for selling the homeland security shit. if there was a move to legislate the end of this all those same radio stations would be worked to oppose it.
media conglomeration, police brutality, prison industrial complex, MIC/privacy, free speech, money in politics, are all issues that democracy was designed to identify, work on, and solve, but our democracy can't do any significant reform anymore because 1000 coordinated think tank scripted radio stations reach enough of a captive audience in just about every state that they can short circuit normal democratic feedback with made-to-order constituencies.
if those blowhards can keep yelling their coordinated hate and racism and lies all over the country on behalf of the billionaire think tanks and the left keeps giving them a free speech free ride, the right wing think tanks will continue to be able to define a lot of what is 'acceptable' and unacceptable in america.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)This is anti-Constitutional, illegal and is going to have far-reaching ill consequences.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Not German fascism, but fascism nonetheless.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)Even if he did, they would find a way to blame on the "black mayor"
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Disagree and they will kill you.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)What they have always gotten benefits them.
What does alarm me is the number that don't want what they have always gotten, but have no idea how to change it or desire to do so.
Apathy is an insidious enemy.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Oh wait, FOXCNNMSNBC. What was I thinking?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)I guess the police don't want the press or the public catching their agent provocateurs in action....