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This is what "freedom of press" looks like in 2015. (Original Post) kpete May 2015 OP
The U.S. is currently ranked SamKnause May 2015 #1
By whom? Buzz Clik May 2015 #6
By Reporters Without Borders Luminous Animal May 2015 #8
+1 Enthusiast May 2015 #18
And it went down by three this year alone nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #22
soooooo not surprising nashville_brook May 2015 #23
It's crazy Nadin Aerows May 2015 #24
I partially get the credentialed media part nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #29
Heaven forbid Aerows May 2015 #31
Here in San Diego, compared to other places nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #32
Have there been any legal challenges to this stupid rule of media being corralled? n/t dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #36
Yes ACLU filed during ferguson nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #37
I was at an event, so could not look for it there nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #38
Who can forget Amy Goodman getting arrested... Oilwellian May 2015 #40
True, there is that. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #41
Highy recommend. +1. Jefferson23 May 2015 #2
Kinder, Gentler Machine Gun Hand. Octafish May 2015 #3
Great post, kpete...K&R n/t ms liberty May 2015 #4
KnR. nt tblue37 May 2015 #5
Have these media zones been challenged in court? Blue_Adept May 2015 #7
Shouldn't it be the curfew getting challenged? muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #11
Yes they have fasttense May 2015 #12
Oh yes, we can bash the corporate media, and they deserve it, mountain grammy May 2015 #19
That's like the "free speech zones" that are being used to silence dissent. Arkansas Granny May 2015 #9
Same exact crap Aerows May 2015 #25
I guess turbinetree May 2015 #10
No they didn't forget about it. They just ignore it. fasttense May 2015 #13
The corporate wimps of the American press mountain grammy May 2015 #14
Looks pretty packed in the "media area" Helen Borg May 2015 #15
F'n A man! Looks like fascism, smells.... eom. JEB May 2015 #16
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! This is a very significant post. Enthusiast May 2015 #17
K&R for a picture being worth a 1000 words. intheflow May 2015 #20
put the liberal media in cages. certainot May 2015 #21
This isn't just absurd. Aerows May 2015 #26
Yes, it is fascism now. hifiguy May 2015 #27
Was Jeraldo there? Did he try to break the barrier? LeftInTX May 2015 #28
We are free because they tell us we are. alphafemale May 2015 #30
It doesn't alarm me that a handful want what they've always gotten Aerows May 2015 #33
Just waiting for Pravda-America. marym625 May 2015 #34
"Credentialed" media, sanctioned by those who are being "investigated" by "journalists". Scuba May 2015 #35
K&R liberal_at_heart May 2015 #39
Do the cops even KNOW the law? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #42
What a crock of shit. blackspade May 2015 #43

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
1. The U.S. is currently ranked
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:08 AM
May 2015

49th in the World Press Freedom rankings.

I expect the downward spiral to continue.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. It's crazy Nadin
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:17 PM
May 2015

What the hell is wrong with our nation if reporters can't be there and have access to report?

It's nuts.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. I partially get the credentialed media part
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:07 PM
May 2015

we signed away our rights to sue if we get an ouchie covering these things... everybody who does this, expects to get hurt sooner or later. If you do not, you are delusional, and I should not say everybody... when some reporters show up wearing heels... So only allowing credentialed press (while really problematic from a 1st amendment, since it is nowhere in there that this applies to only credentialed press), I get it from the point of view of liability for cities. I don't agree, but.

Penning press is a problem though, and it is because police knows that in the 1960s there were many problematic pieces of video in the evening news... and we can't have that, now can we?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. Heaven forbid
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:17 PM
May 2015

that the truth is taped! We just can't handle the truth!

I appreciate everyone that is there in the trenches doing the job you do, Nadin. It can't be easy.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
32. Here in San Diego, compared to other places
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:19 PM
May 2015

it's been mostly pretty easy.

Wildfires so far have been mostly more dangerous. But we are aware of the risks.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
40. Who can forget Amy Goodman getting arrested...
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:34 AM
May 2015


A final settlement has been reached in a federal lawsuit challenging the police crackdown on journalists reporting on the 2008 Republican National Convention and protests in St. Paul, Minnesota. Democracy Now! host and executive producer Amy Goodman, along with former producers Nicole Salazar and Sharif Abdel Kouddous, filed the lawsuit last year against the Minneapolis and St. Paul Police Departments, the Ramsey County Sheriff and United States Secret Service personnel. The lawsuit challenged the policies and conduct of law enforcement during the 2008 RNC that resulted in their arrests. They were among dozens of journalists arrested that week in St. Paul. The settlement includes $100,000 in compensation paid by the St. Paul and Minneapolis Police Departments and the Secret Service. The settlement also includes an agreement by the St. Paul Police Department to implement a training program aimed at educating officers regarding the First Amendment rights of the press and public with respect to police operations, including proper procedures for dealing with the press covering demonstrations. [includes rush transcript]

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/10/3/settlement_reached_over_arrest_of_amy

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Kinder, Gentler Machine Gun Hand.
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:12 AM
May 2015

The Freep Press is the only business mentioned by name in the Constitution.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
7. Have these media zones been challenged in court?
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:57 AM
May 2015

Or are the media folks too afraid to do so for biting the hand that feeds them?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
11. Shouldn't it be the curfew getting challenged?
Sun May 3, 2015, 10:13 AM
May 2015

The 'media zone' is a small side-effect of the general removal of rights that the people of Baltimore are suffering.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
12. Yes they have
Sun May 3, 2015, 10:30 AM
May 2015

And the Dancing Supremes danced for their masters and said, "Hey, it's all right to NOT allow free speech throughout the country and only allow it in certain locations with certain people saying certain things. The GOP is our master." Well they may NOT have said exactly that, but it came very close to that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/05/27/supreme-court-bush-protest-speech/9172707/

mountain grammy

(26,607 posts)
19. Oh yes, we can bash the corporate media, and they deserve it,
Sun May 3, 2015, 12:02 PM
May 2015

but the corporate supremes are a huge part of the problem.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
13. No they didn't forget about it. They just ignore it.
Sun May 3, 2015, 10:34 AM
May 2015

There are 2 parts to free speech that is in the constitution. There is the part that allows for sending speech and there is the part that allows for receiving speech. In the US we mostly focus on the sending and ignore and restrict the receiving.

mountain grammy

(26,607 posts)
14. The corporate wimps of the American press
Sun May 3, 2015, 10:43 AM
May 2015

just takes it because, you know, it's only the first amendment, and they really haven't given as shit about that for the last 30 years or so.

A camera pointed at a cop is the same as a gun in the eyes of many in law enforcement, and they "fear for their lives."

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! This is a very significant post.
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:53 AM
May 2015

We must recognize that our freedom has been compromised. If we are to correct it.

While the nation was off "fightin' for our freedumbs" we turned around and found them to be gone.

WTF?

Way to go Bush, you fucking ninny.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
21. put the liberal media in cages.
Sun May 3, 2015, 01:30 PM
May 2015

1000 radio stations out there demonize the "liberal media" on a daily basis. those radio stations and their ignorant liars give the loudest and most coordinated interpretations and response to protests in america. it worked to kill OWS and the billionaires' think tanks will keep defining what is and isn't acceptable in america if the left keeps letting them.

to fix this slide into fascism the 'left' and dems MUST begin including radio stations and the 90+ universities that endorse them, in civil disobedience. otherwise those 400 blowhards will continue to make it optional for media and politicians to listen to protestors and other activism. by ignoring rw radio the left is allowing a few blowhards yell over and negate thousands of protestors. and they keep up the national buzz for however long it takes to demonize the protestors and distort their message.

team limbaugh blames 'liberal' media for loving the protests and hating the cops. rw radio was critical for selling the homeland security shit. if there was a move to legislate the end of this all those same radio stations would be worked to oppose it.

media conglomeration, police brutality, prison industrial complex, MIC/privacy, free speech, money in politics, are all issues that democracy was designed to identify, work on, and solve, but our democracy can't do any significant reform anymore because 1000 coordinated think tank scripted radio stations reach enough of a captive audience in just about every state that they can short circuit normal democratic feedback with made-to-order constituencies.

if those blowhards can keep yelling their coordinated hate and racism and lies all over the country on behalf of the billionaire think tanks and the left keeps giving them a free speech free ride, the right wing think tanks will continue to be able to define a lot of what is 'acceptable' and unacceptable in america.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
26. This isn't just absurd.
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:20 PM
May 2015

This is anti-Constitutional, illegal and is going to have far-reaching ill consequences.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
28. Was Jeraldo there? Did he try to break the barrier?
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:37 PM
May 2015

Even if he did, they would find a way to blame on the "black mayor"

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
33. It doesn't alarm me that a handful want what they've always gotten
Sun May 3, 2015, 04:28 PM
May 2015

What they have always gotten benefits them.

What does alarm me is the number that don't want what they have always gotten, but have no idea how to change it or desire to do so.

Apathy is an insidious enemy.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
43. What a crock of shit.
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:50 AM
May 2015

I guess the police don't want the press or the public catching their agent provocateurs in action....

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