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The cover of Time Magazine... (Original Post) one_voice Apr 2015 OP
What has changed? sheshe2 Apr 2015 #1
I hate to but I must disagree. The local police have militarized. It's much worse now. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #2
True. That is a fact, rhett. sheshe2 Apr 2015 #8
I am truly sorry about your brother. I am not surprised about the nightmares. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #17
So many triggers, sheshe. brer cat May 2015 #19
my respect and condolences heaven05 May 2015 #51
So help slow down the militarization. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #12
Thank you very much. I will definitely take action. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #15
Yes, I agree....n/t dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #13
My memory differs a bit… Jackpine Radical May 2015 #36
I believe that was the National Guard. Now the local police have all that and rhett o rick May 2015 #37
Yes, it was the Guard. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #38
The real warriors were fighting for peace against the draft dodgers. Well put. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #39
Here's what the cops looked like back then: Jackpine Radical May 2015 #40
The police have better armor now. malthaussen May 2015 #21
Sad but true TIME cover on Baltimore, great city. Shame on this country X 1,000,000 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #3
Reminds me of the one man in a blue shirt and dreads, hands in the air, tblue37 Apr 2015 #4
What's changed: Then LBJ spoke out against racism after the riots. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #5
Imagine if LBJ called them thugs instead? /nt Dragonfli Apr 2015 #6
From a post I read and responded to earlier... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #7
I still believe LBJ got it right, not wrong Dragonfli Apr 2015 #9
Crime still does not pay in a positive direction? seveneyes Apr 2015 #10
Seems to me crime can pay just fine if you are not truebluegreen Apr 2015 #16
* ronnie624 May 2015 #28
+1000 heaven05 May 2015 #52
That's an amazing image. I hear an amateur photographer got this shot. Nice work. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #11
Photographer is a Baltimore resident, btw... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #14
He was on MSNBC today... interesting conversation about what he got paid for the photo. Agschmid Apr 2015 #18
Do tell. I'm actually surprised they offered him payment justiceischeap May 2015 #23
I don't think they did, but the MSNBC host (Roberts?) assumed they did. Agschmid May 2015 #24
Seriously? They didn't pay him? progressoid May 2015 #25
Not sure I'll try to google the link later. Agschmid May 2015 #26
Yeah, I gotta get back to work. progressoid May 2015 #27
Here's an OP I created about him justiceischeap May 2015 #22
Very effective Gothmog May 2015 #20
Powerful! RecoveringJournalist May 2015 #29
I just got the symbolism of the broken neck. That's how slaves were murdered, except from a tree. libdem4life May 2015 #30
a bit right, a bit wrong Bucky May 2015 #41
What's the wrong part? I'm just saying it's a pseudo hanging in 2015...a snapped neck. libdem4life May 2015 #46
and yeah heaven05 May 2015 #53
I am not seeing the symbolism in the pic... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #45
Sure. Negro...hanging Black Man...broken neck Same ritualistic (IMHO) act of racist murder. libdem4life May 2015 #47
I thought you meant... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #48
No...The act of hanging Negroes just for the hell of it...redux..,..21st Century version. libdem4life May 2015 #49
Got you now awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #50
One reason why at times I shoot black and white nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #31
Whoah. Look how threatened those cops are. They'd be crazy not to shoot that thug immediately. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2015 #32
2015 is so different from 1968. Those cops aren't shooting. tclambert May 2015 #33
Going to have to check out this article. kimmylavin May 2015 #34
Oh, he's the Editor-at-Large of Time... kimmylavin May 2015 #35
I hate this. It's what hasn't changed that is so scary. raven mad May 2015 #42
cops or occupation STORM troopers. + who is darth? pansypoo53219 May 2015 #43
K & R davidpdx May 2015 #44
K&R. Very moving & painful cover. The ugly return of hate & brutality from progress & change. appalachiablue May 2015 #54
Horrible form underpants May 2015 #55
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
2. I hate to but I must disagree. The local police have militarized. It's much worse now.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:20 PM
Apr 2015

In 1968 they had fire hoses and dogs. Now they are shooting black males in the back with impunity or breaking their spines.

sheshe2

(83,708 posts)
8. True. That is a fact, rhett.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:49 PM
Apr 2015

They are much worse now than in 1968. It is the hate that has not changed, just the tactics. Correct,

The local police have militarized.


It needs to end. Black people matter. The shots in the back, the chocking a man to death of Eric...



Daughter of #EricGarner lies down for 11 mins in the same spot where cops murdered her father. #ICanTears~

If we step back in time, the Klan had rope as well and they sure knew how to use it. It is hard for me to talk about the hangings, I have not posted some articles because of it. My brother, he hung himself. I had nightmares for over a year.

Thank you rhett.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
51. my respect and condolences
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:00 PM
May 2015

I don't know how you feel, but I do know it's difficult whenever the thought of the sibling comes up.

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
12. So help slow down the militarization.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:26 PM
Apr 2015
http://fconl.capwiz.com/fconl/issues/bills/?bill=64204806

HR 1232: To amend title 10, United States Code, to direct the Secretary of Defense to make certain limitations on the transfer of personal property to Federal and State agencies, and for other purposes.


http://fconl.capwiz.com/fconl/issues/bills/?bill=63317371

S 2904 This bill would impose new regulations on the 1033 program and prevent some kinds of equipment from being transferred to local police departments. It would also restrict block grants that can be used to purchase military-grade weapons.


http://fconl.capwiz.com/fconl/issues/bills/?bill=63317351

HR 5478 This bill would impose new regulations on the 1033 program and prevent some kinds of equipment from being transferred to local police departments.


The "take action" on the house link provides draft talking points that you can modify to use at the senate "take action" link, and the second house "take action" link.

Its not a comprehensive solution, but it is a start - and the bills have bipartisan support so they have a chance of going somewhere. (All three have been referred to the respective Armed Services Committees)

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
38. Yes, it was the Guard.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:54 PM
May 2015

But we also faced phalanxes of helmeted, visored cops with clubs & pepper gas.

It was kinda interesting dealing with the Guard, BTW. The NG in those days was filled with guys with connections avoiding the draft. At that time (1969), I was back from Vietnam and in the antiwar movement. So I, a veteran, was struggling for peace against a bunch of draft dodgers armed with M-14s, grenade launchers, and bayonets, who were trying to deny me the right to protest the war they were avoiding.

tblue37

(65,269 posts)
4. Reminds me of the one man in a blue shirt and dreads, hands in the air,
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:26 PM
Apr 2015

facing a line of armed-to-the-teeth cops in Ferguson. They have us outnumbered and decidedly outarmed. These are clearly images of a fascist police state.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
5. What's changed: Then LBJ spoke out against racism after the riots.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:34 PM
Apr 2015

Racism and discrimination were found to be the understandable cause of riots and destruction.

A lot more fucks were given then, basically, and now, all are too busy trying to excuse police brutality and blame the victims or watch in horror as the inevitable happens. When the inevitable happens, they "tsk tsk" over "thugs an criminals." Lather, rinse, repeat. We've gone backwards to well before 1968.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
9. I still believe LBJ got it right, not wrong
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:09 PM
Apr 2015

Just goes to show how old I am with my antiquated notions.

I just don't make a very good pragmatic modern civil rights champion like our esteemed President.

Maybe the feds need to send in more war equipment to deal with the abused and impoverished minority com.. , er i mean thug communities.
That sounds modern AND pragmatic.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
10. Crime still does not pay in a positive direction?
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:14 PM
Apr 2015

If nothing else between then and now, this must certainly must remain a constant?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
16. Seems to me crime can pay just fine if you are not
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:53 PM
Apr 2015

black and poor to begin with. Look at Wall Street, look at Big Oil, look at serial polluters, look at the likes of Monsanto and Big Pharma. Their crimes against people, humanity and the earth pay them handsomely; the rest of us not so much.

progressoid

(49,961 posts)
27. Yeah, I gotta get back to work.
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:32 AM
May 2015

I'll peruse some photo sites later and see if it's mentioned anywhere.

Bucky

(53,984 posts)
41. a bit right, a bit wrong
Fri May 1, 2015, 06:08 PM
May 2015

The hangings intensified after slavery was ended, under the terrorism of Jim Crow.

But that said, the use of hanging from a tree goes way back to slavery days, when the murder of a rebellious slave was designed to be an example against all the other enslaved people from thinking about resistance to their oppression.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
53. and yeah
Sun May 3, 2015, 03:07 PM
May 2015

they were left hanging there until they rotted, usually on the way to the fields that slaves worked from dawn till dusk....

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
48. I thought you meant...
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:18 PM
May 2015

there was something in the cover photo symbolizing the broken neck. In the photo I can see symbolism of a lynch mob (a bunch of white people coming after a black man).

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
50. Got you now
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:35 PM
May 2015

Sorry for the confusion. I hope, like the news reports that showed white Americans what was going on during civil rights marches, that camera phones finally wake people the hell up to what has been going on in black communities for years. It has to stop, and we may be at a breaking point thanks to technology. I hope I am right.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
33. 2015 is so different from 1968. Those cops aren't shooting.
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:47 PM
May 2015

They're holding sticks, not M-16s. And where are the tanks?

kimmylavin

(2,284 posts)
34. Going to have to check out this article.
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:53 PM
May 2015

I literally just finished a book by the author, David von Drehle, about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire.
Excellent read.

kimmylavin

(2,284 posts)
35. Oh, he's the Editor-at-Large of Time...
Fri May 1, 2015, 03:55 PM
May 2015

Just read about him.
Going to have to check out his other books.

He sounds like an interesting man.

underpants

(182,717 posts)
55. Horrible form
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:38 PM
May 2015

Forearms should be parallel to the ground
Foot strikes should be flat - basically catching the ground as it passes. Much more efficient.
Heel strikes are very damaging on the bone structure
Shoulders should forward over top the foot strike.



Just kidding. Great pic.

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