Pro-nuke people don't like Bernie

[RobertEarl]

From what I hear, Bernie will end the subsidies to nuke power.

Of course they wouldn't like him, the whole nuke industry is dependent on government subsidies. Especially the insurance subsidy that government gives the industry. No private company will completely insure a nuke plant, so the government guarantees to pay for the excess damages nuke plants are capable of causing.

Go Bernie!! He just may save us. But only if we elect him as President of the United States come 2016.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

1. I dont like nukes, but is there a way, currently, to provide the power we need w/out

both nukes and coal?

I know we could create that over time, but now?

[kristopher]

6. Yes, we can provide for our needs now.

You'll probably want to read the article at this link in its entirety.
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/blog/post/2015/04/renewables-vs-nuclear-do-we-need-more-nuclear-power?page=all

Renewables vs. Nuclear: Do We Need More Nuclear Power?


...Let’s take a look at the last 10 years and the next 10 years…

New U.S. renewable and nuclear capacity added the last 10 years (output):

55 GW utility wind (22 GW)
17 GW rooftop PV solar (3.5 GW)
10 GW utility PV and solar thermal (2.5 GW)
15 GW biomass and biogas (12 GW)
3 GW Geothermal (2.5)
Total renewables: 100 GW (42.5 GW)
Total nuclear: Marginal increase from existing plants
(2004-2014 = approx 2.6MWe of up-rated nuclear generation - K)

.....

U.S. renewable and nuclear plan the next 10 years capacity and (output):

130 GW utility wind (52 GW)
75 GW rooftop PV solar (15 GW)
35 GW utility PV and thermal solar (9 GW)
60 GW biomass and biogas (51 GW)
5 GW Geothermal (4 GW)
Additional renewable power next 10 years: 305 GW (131 GW)
Additional nuclear power next 10 years: 5.6 GW (5.1 GW)

The above output numbers for renewables assume no advances in wind or solar efficiency and no grid storage. Both assumptions will become completely false, so the 131 GW number should be considered a minimum number....

There is much more to the discussion: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/blog/post/2015/04/renewables-vs-nuclear-do-we-need-more-nuclear-power?page=all

Now, about that minimum number and storage:

Tesla-Powered Wal-Mart Stores Attest to Musk's Energy Storage Ambitions

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While companies like Coda Energy, Green Charge Networks and Stem have also applied for SGIP funds, Tesla accounts for almost half of all storage applications, Bloomberg New Energy Finance said in an April 2 report published for clients. BNEF also said Tesla accounts for about 70 percent of SGIP storage projects connected to California’s grid.

Jackson Family Wines, based in Santa Rosa, has a new partnership with Tesla involving battery storage and several vehicle charging stations, according to the February issue of Wine Business Monthly. The winery declined to comment.

Mack Wycoff, Wal-Mart’s senior manager for renewable energy and emissions, said the company is intrigued by energy storage. “Instead of pulling electricity from the grid, you discharge it from the battery,” he said. “Ideally you know when your period of peak demand is, and you discharge it then.”

Mike Martin, Cargill’s director of communications, declined to provide details about how the company plans to use Tesla batteries at the Fresno plant. The 200,000-square-foot facility, one of the largest of its type in California, produces nearly 400 million pounds of beef each year.

Janet Dixon is director of facilities at the Temecula Valley Unified School District in southern California, which plans to install solar panels at 20 of its 28 schools this summer. Dixon said that SolarCity is the solar provider, and five of the facilities will have Tesla batteries.

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http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2015/04/tesla-powered-wal-mart-stores-attest-to-musks-energy-storage-ambitions?cmpid=WNL-Wednesday-April29-2015

[RobertEarl]

2. Construction subsidies, too

There is now a nuke plant being built in Georgia that would not have ever been started if the US government had not pledged to guarantee that the loans used to build the plant would be paid.

Yep, that's right --- if the plant never goes on line and never produces even one killer-watt, taxpayers will still pay off the banksters. Until now, not one crooked bankster has made a nuke construction loan in about 20 years. Even they are too smart to take such a risk; without you backing them.

Bernie will end the subsidizing of banksters.

[Octafish]

3. $13 Billion to insure the damage to the USA a nuke plant can cause.

That's it. So, they shake down the taxpayer.

http://www.iii.org/article/insurance-coverage-nuclear-accidents

Ask Japan how much TEPCO's forked out and how many people are still dispossessed?

[RobertEarl]

4. Fukushima's cost?

Hard to calculate. Over a trillion US dollars, easily.

If just one reactor near NYC goes Fuku, it would make Fukushima look small.

Thanks Price-Anderson, you sold us a forever more pile of nuke waste. Rest not in peace, you butts.

[Octafish]

7. We need new thinking. Take peace. Without war, money could rebuild USA.

Start with the energy grid. For the cost of Iraq War, we could've built National 100% Renewable Clean Energy Grid. I kid you not.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/for-the-price-of-the-iraq-war-the-u-s-could-have-a-100-renewable-power-system/5330881

But, no. War Inc. needs the plutonium and Wall Street needs the welfare.

[RobertEarl]

10. That's the Truth, octafish

We could have had a modern grid with the money wasted on Iraq.

And we need one today more than ever, with solar and wind keeping it electrified as base power.

Bernie will make it happen come 2017. No one else can do it. Bernie can. And he will, if we just Bernie the chance.

[NuclearDem]

5. Well, that didn't take long.

[Zorra]

8. No one from the Dark Side likes Bernie. He's a populist Dem with integrity. nt

[RobertEarl]

9. He's great.

I can't remember another politician with as much sensibility as Bernie.

Of course the dark side will fight like hell against him. Nukers are lining up as we speak. We will beat them with grassroots and the TRUTH.