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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:20 PM Apr 2015

Bernie Sanders: America's railroads were once the envy of the world....



(video) http://www.businessinsider.com/japanese-maglev-train-sets-speed-record-375-mph-2015-4

Japan's maglev train just set a world record speed of 375 mph (over 600 kph) during a manned test run on April 21. Central Japan Railway plans to launch the service of the magnetically levitated train in 2027, connecting Tokyo and Nagoya, a distance of around 186 miles, in just 40 minutes.

The average speed of the maglev train is to be set around 310 mph once it is operating commercially


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/japanese-maglev-train-sets-speed-record-375-mph-2015-4#ixzz3YGGSHwib
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Bernie Sanders: America's railroads were once the envy of the world.... (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2015 OP
Oooh, are we nationalizing railroads now? Brickbat Apr 2015 #1
We could outsource the building of our railroads. I like the idea of sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #15
Outsource the building of railroads to whom? Brickbat Apr 2015 #16
Or, we could sell them to Japan. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #2
And that's not the only thing that has fallen apart. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #3
We have a train that can get close to 187 mph? House of Roberts Apr 2015 #4
The Acela hits 150mph in parts of New England. jeff47 Apr 2015 #5
Average speeds are less than half! LongTomH Apr 2015 #11
You pay for air terminals and airline subsidies. upaloopa Apr 2015 #6
Then there's France's contribution to high-speed rail technology: Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #7
Took it from Paris to Bordeaux R-T, very nice esp. the fields of sunflowers. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #8
Have loved the TGV from the day it was born. Smoooooth ride! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
We did Paris a couple days, the Musee D'Orsay & the Louve. Then headed sw on the suberb TGV appalachiablue Apr 2015 #12
Good morning, appalachiablue...I've only just logged on today. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #14
Bon jour, the *Abbey Mill Inn is in Brantome (Perigord) a small town in the Aquitane, the appalachiablue Apr 2015 #18
This is one I'm keeping for future reference...! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #19
Absolutely! ENJOY. I love lighthouses, will you ever bring yours back? appalachiablue Apr 2015 #21
Yes, I plan to. But, it's an extraneous jif and only star members can use those. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #22
Extractive economies have no need for new infrastructure bloomington-lib Apr 2015 #9
There was a very good recent post saying that repair and upgrade of our common appalachiablue Apr 2015 #13
Our collective idea of what makes a country "best" DirkGently Apr 2015 #17
Well said; yes we're 'the best' alright- No. 2 for the first time in the middle class behind Canada appalachiablue Apr 2015 #20

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. We could outsource the building of our railroads. I like the idea of
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:27 AM
Apr 2015

nationalizing them actually. It would certainly be good for Union workers.

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
4. We have a train that can get close to 187 mph?
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:38 PM
Apr 2015

Did Bernie do his math on that one?

Rail would improve immensely if the companies had to post realistic bonds based upon how much damage a train could do, how many people might get killed. These rail companies run as shell companies with no assets, so they can be dumped into bankruptcy whenever something goes wrong, leaving nothing to sue. I wouldn't ride on one at 60 mph, let alone faster.

If 'we' have to pay for the upgrade to railroads, 'we' won't share in the profits of the rail companies. Let the insurance companies force the upgrades onto the derelict rail tycoons.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. The Acela hits 150mph in parts of New England.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 05:04 PM
Apr 2015

Close enough to "half" for a statement.

Real high speed rail requires new track (be it steel rails or maglev) and right-of-ways. So it wouldn't just be a matter of repairing the rails owned by the freight companies.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
11. Average speeds are less than half!
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 07:07 PM
Apr 2015

From Wikipedia's article on high-speed rail in the US::

The travel time between Washington and New York is 2 hours and 53 minutes (compared to 2 hours and 30 minutes for PRR's nonstop Metroliner in 1969), or an average speed of 79 mph (127 km/h). Schedule between New York and Boston is 3 hours 34 minutes, an average speed of only 63 mph (101 km/h). With a 15-minute layover in New York, the entire end-to-end trip averages 68 mph (110 km/h)


Bernie is right; trains like the Metroliner were the envy of the world!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
6. You pay for air terminals and airline subsidies.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 05:12 PM
Apr 2015

We took the Amtrak Coast Starlight to Seattle from San Luis Obispo. Very nice ride. Took 36 hours. In the dining car each table seats 4 persons. You have to sit with strangers and it was a very good experience. The people we met were very interesting. I'm glad you weren't on the train. We may have had to listen to you complain about the service.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. Then there's France's contribution to high-speed rail technology:
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 06:19 PM
Apr 2015









http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV

A TGV test train set the record for the fastest wheeled train, reaching 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph) on 3 April 2007. In mid-2011, scheduled TGV trains operated at the highest speeds in conventional train service in the world, regularly reaching 320 km/h (200 mph) on the LGV Est, LGV Rhin-Rhône, and LGV Méditerranée.

appalachiablue

(41,128 posts)
12. We did Paris a couple days, the Musee D'Orsay & the Louve. Then headed sw on the suberb TGV
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 10:06 PM
Apr 2015

for my friend/college roomie's wedding in Bordeaux. Lovely summer affair, eve reception at a small chateau. Next day all toured the medieval Dordogne castle, Chateau de Beynac, home of barons like Rich. Coeur de Lion, Francois I. Saw charming Saint Emilion and lunch in Brantome-en-Perigord at an old restaurant/inn/abbey from Charlemagne's time!- Moulin de L'Abbaye recommended by friends. Lovely and I recall those cute ducks waddling around the terrace over the river.

Friend is an artist and instructor m. to a French sculptor. She's very happy there after working as a graphic designer in Atlanta and Boston. She RAVED about the TGV weeks before we went over. Thanks for jogging the memories, good ones. But now I'll be on a French jag for a bit, it happens!






*I couldn't resist...the Video. Aber das leid der Nazi Deutschen- 'Der Faterland'? nein, nein!
Mais 'La Marseillaise' toujours! Vive la France et Vive La Hollywood!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
14. Good morning, appalachiablue...I've only just logged on today.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:20 AM
Apr 2015

My favorite scene from Casablanca! Allons enfants de la patrieeee-eh ! !

Ah, the Dordogne - one (among many) of France's gifts to mankind.

What a fairytale petit châteaux and setting. Where is it, do you know? Some where in the Dordogne, maybe? Thanks for that!



appalachiablue

(41,128 posts)
18. Bon jour, the *Abbey Mill Inn is in Brantome (Perigord) a small town in the Aquitane, the
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:36 PM
Apr 2015

southwestern France district where Bordeaux is located. I recall the drive from Bordeaux to Brantome was about 2 hours. We lunched on the outside terrace at *La Moulin de L'Abbaye, then returned to Bordeaux where we were staying.

La Moulin is as charming as they get; the old mill/inn/restaurant is highly rated with excellent cuisine and atmosphere. Wish we'd had more time to see the surrounding town of Brantome and the famous old Abbey.

In several days we managed to do a lot before returning to Paris a la TGV, then flying back to DC. Never forget those amazing yellow fields of Sunflowers looking out the windows of the train.

There's so much more to do in SW France, the wines! esp. Saint Emilion; Lascaux, incredible thousands of years old Paleolithic cave paintings first discovered in 1940; Gascony and the Basque region.

In southeastern France there's Toulouse and more; yesterday met someone who had lived there. Brantome is also on the pilgrimage road, the Camino de Santiago to Spain which I didn't realize at the time. Ah, France.. .

-Appa



http://www.moulinabbaye.com/en/

http://www.northofthedordogne.com/brantome.php



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
22. Yes, I plan to. But, it's an extraneous jif and only star members can use those.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:08 PM
Apr 2015

When I can make a decent donation and get my star back, I'll bring back the lighthouse.

I LOVE lighthouses, too. I always visit if there's one in the area. They're so wonderfully symbolic - a light in the darkness.

appalachiablue

(41,128 posts)
13. There was a very good recent post saying that repair and upgrade of our common
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 11:08 PM
Apr 2015

public infrastructure is not the plan. It's to let the roads, hwys., bridges, water, sewer and other systems and properties decline, so they're cheaper for private corporations to buy up and take them over for profit.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
17. Our collective idea of what makes a country "best"
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:53 AM
Apr 2015

... is apparently limited to how rich our zillionaires are, and maybe how many weapons we have.

We could have free college education, national healthcare coverage, a retirement program that allows people not to barely survive, but to LIVE.

But that might require preventing investment firms from stuffing the world's economy into its pockets. It might mean we couldn't afford as many mercenaries and drones and general violent screwing around all over the world.

It might mean putting less of our working population in prison.

We have a three-year-old's idea of priorities. Not like a smart three-year-old, either.

appalachiablue

(41,128 posts)
20. Well said; yes we're 'the best' alright- No. 2 for the first time in the middle class behind Canada
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:46 PM
Apr 2015

now No. 1. The US has sunk to no. 17 in education worldwide after being No. 3. and 4 for a while. And in the world quality of living index, we're quite low for an 'advanced' country. In billionaires, bombs and weapons however, we excel, like prison inmates.

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