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Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:24 PM

 

help me smart DUers! need snappy talking points to counter claims of "it's all obama's fault".

apparently the hitchhikers I pick up on the way home from work are quite fond of political discussion, but not terribly astute.
I am noticing a trend of black=stupid or something like that b/c not sure how anyone comes to the conclusion that obama is dumb. he talks with sentences that make sense, something exceedingly rare in a politician. also he sometimes talks to say things, also pretty rare in a politician.

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Reply help me smart DUers! need snappy talking points to counter claims of "it's all obama's fault". (Original post)
redruddyred Apr 2015 OP
geek tragedy Apr 2015 #1
redruddyred Apr 2015 #2
jberryhill Apr 2015 #3
geek tragedy Apr 2015 #4
redruddyred Apr 2015 #6
Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #5
HassleCat Apr 2015 #7
redruddyred Apr 2015 #12
MineralMan Apr 2015 #8
randome Apr 2015 #9
Egnever Apr 2015 #10
kentuck Apr 2015 #11
oldandhappy Apr 2015 #13
Vinca Apr 2015 #14
lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #15
A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2015 #16
SummerSnow Apr 2015 #17

Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:25 PM

1. don't argue with people liike that, it's like trying to teach pigs to sing

 

you're doomed to fail at whatever you're trying to achieve, and you'll just annoy the pig

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:27 PM

2. come on it's a captive audience

 

way better roi than canvassing can't slam the door in my face.

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:29 PM

3. What I have noticed among relatively unsophisticated people...


It is quite common for highly intelligent and educated people to carefully choose their words, and to pause while mentally constructing phrases, in order to speak in full grammatic sentences. That sort of speech is common among professorial types.

What I have found to be the case among people who have not had a lot of exposure to that sort of thing is that since they wouldn't know a complete sentence if it bit them in the ass (viz. the popularity of Sarah Palin as a "great speaker" is that they perceive this type of speech as "stammering".

What they normally expect in extemporaneous elocution is an uninterrupted flow of sound which, while not making much sense overall, contains phrases that appeal to them.

Accordingly, among such people, the fact that Palin can just rattle off nonstop nonsense is a speaking style which, to them, suggests confidence and knowledge. By contrast, they find a more knowledgeable and careful speaker to be halting, uncertain, and less intelligent.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:31 PM

4. the old adage about "they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" nt

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:34 PM

6. this is well said.

 

how did you learn to write so well? how can I learn to be more like you?

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:32 PM

5. Bet the same people did not say it was Bush's fault, huh.

It used to be Nancy Pelosi's fault but now it isn't Boehner's fault. It has been Harry Reid's fault also but not McConnell's fault. Now it is a joke line of its Obama's fault. I like the We are going to take our country back, who on the hell are they going to take it back?

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:35 PM

7. You Can't Win

 

My neighbors are like that. They were wishing Obama would die, so we could be rescued from the huge tragedy of having a black guy as president. They also believe in stuff like the "sovereign citizen" theories, and God-only-knows what else. The other day, I was pumping gas at the Costco, and some guy next to me was blabbing in a loud voice about how Obama was sending us all straight to hell, so I said, "Really? I just filled my tank for twenty bucks, and it cost me forty when Bush was prez." He just turned red and sputtered. He'll probably hunt me down and shoot me. I usually don't say anything, but sometimes I just can't resist.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:52 PM

12. good for you for speaking up

 

my hitchhiker is not a crazy arsehole tho, just wrong.
per ejemplo we both agree that wages are way too low and employers are just out to exploit as much as they can.

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:40 PM

8. For hitchhikers, STFU or Walk! would work pretty well, I think.

For Facebook, I find that Unfriend works a treat.

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:45 PM

9. At least he hasn't attacked the wrong country yet.

 

That makes him light years smarter than Conservatives.
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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:48 PM

10. Wait hitch hikers are the keepers of the intelligence rolls?

 

Who knew hitch hiking makes you a genius!

I should have done it more when I was younger.

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:50 PM

11. Yeah...

If he hadn't invaded Iraq and crashed the economy in 2008, it would be a lot better...

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:48 PM

13. Suggest you talk about the weather or I can stop and you can walk.

Those folk will never listen to you.

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:52 PM

14. Oh heck, just ask them why they're racists.

People who blame this POTUS for everything are usually only bothered by one thing.

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:54 PM

15. It wasn't Obama who shut the govt down to the cost of $24 Billion.




And they have been obstructing him in Congress every day since his first inauguration.


Link: http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2009/01/19/limbaugh-i-hope-obama-fails-but-rushs-recent-record-stinks/

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:58 PM

16. Haven't seen a hitchhiker in years,

come to think of it.

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Response to redruddyred (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 05:30 PM

17. i would say, 'yeah, i went fishing yesterday and my line snapped and I said-

thanks Obama, its his fault you know"

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