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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 02:51 PM Apr 2015

The Long Pointy History Behind Hillary's Brilliant Logo - Gizmodo

The Long Pointy History Behind Hillary's Brilliant Logo
Alissa Walker - Gizmodo
4/14/15 3:00pm

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Since the announcement of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign was no secret, it was her campaign design that was the big reveal of the week. The giant blue H marched its way to the forefront of the breaking news, but at the center of Clinton’s logo is another, far more critical graphic element: The arrow.

The logo itself is bold and contemporary, and pretty enough that it won’t annoy us when we’ve been looking at it for 18 months straight. It’s lacking all traces of flag-like elements, which is great, and it’s also flat, which is nice. It’s not Obama “ O” good (actually, I always found Obama’s logo packing a little too much heartland/waves-of-grain for my taste), but an H is awkward letter—it isn’t nearly as iconic or cool. It needed something else.

Per usual, the internet was peppered with plenty of off-topic commentary—it’s a hospital sign, an old NBC logo, a UK grocery store, a WikiLeaks ripoff, a 9/11 Rorschach test???—including an entire typeface made in the logo’s style.

The identity—which is reportedly designed by Pentagram’s Michael Bierut, although the designer would not confirm or deny this to me—was mostly picked apart for the very specific placement, shape, and color of that arrow. Why is it so big? Why is it so red? Shouldn’t it actually be pointing left?

But the arrow has a heck of a lot of value in today’s world, maybe more than ever.

Arrows have been a critical part of logo design through the years. Inferring motion, speed, precision, they often appear on sports-related brands....

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More: http://gizmodo.com/the-long-pointy-history-behind-hillarys-brilliant-logo-1697613050





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The Long Pointy History Behind Hillary's Brilliant Logo - Gizmodo (Original Post) WillyT Apr 2015 OP
I really do have to admit Aerows Apr 2015 #1
I really don't care much about logogate but that is a great TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #2
I Thought We Were Gonna Call It Logahzi... WillyT Apr 2015 #12
Thanks, I must've missed the memo. n/t TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #15
Wow... mimi85 Apr 2015 #27
There's some latent meaning that the article didn't touch upon renegade000 Apr 2015 #3
Of course it's brilliant! did you expect anything less? just like everything obama ever did! KG Apr 2015 #4
All you have to do is look at the top of your browser. MineralMan Apr 2015 #5
Usually if that is available, it's because you accidentally clicked a link you didn't want Scootaloo Apr 2015 #6
You win this thread. n/t winter is coming Apr 2015 #7
Ditto! nt mimi85 Apr 2015 #28
Is that the arrow she used in her logo? MineralMan Apr 2015 #9
Red state, blue state, right, left politics.... Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #19
ROFL Oilwellian Apr 2015 #21
I'd go one step farther. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #34
Good point*. I think it also reminds the viewer of a Vote Here --> sign underpants Apr 2015 #8
This Way Out ==> MineralMan Apr 2015 #10
Or "To the Egress" as PT Barnum might say. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2015 #14
Yeah - you're right - Obama's logo didn't work for him at all lame54 Apr 2015 #11
Yeah that was a stupid thing for the author to write underpants Apr 2015 #16
Theres another big reason they stay clear of the C... lame54 Apr 2015 #17
Right because it's about Hillary not the Clinton brand underpants Apr 2015 #20
Read It Again... I Saw It As You Did At First, But Now... Not As Good As Obama's "O" Is What I See.. WillyT Apr 2015 #25
I thought his logo was brilliant. mimi85 Apr 2015 #30
Brilliant? LOL daredtowork Apr 2015 #13
The similarity to the Hillards logo is notable - you'd almost think the designer muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #18
Might be. But Hillard's seems to have vanished after a hostile takeover nearly 30 years ago; struggle4progress Apr 2015 #23
Yeah, I'm not sure if I ever knew the name myself, since it was in a different region muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #24
What? You mean there won't be a bus under which to throw people??? WTF? NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #33
Good Grief...is this real? Or Photoshopped KoKo Apr 2015 #26
It's real; go to the Google link and you'll find lots of photos with it in muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #31
Thanks... KoKo Apr 2015 #32
Meh, still a weak logo. Throd Apr 2015 #22
Wrong WillyT Apr 2015 #29
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
1. I really do have to admit
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 02:56 PM
Apr 2015

that my first impression of it was a hospital sign. It's neither bad, nor good, just what my first thought was when I saw it.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
27. Wow...
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:09 AM
Apr 2015

after all these many years, I didn't either. Gotta "look outside the box" so to speak (or write). Damn that notegraphy is addictive.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
3. There's some latent meaning that the article didn't touch upon
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:00 PM
Apr 2015

I got a chuckle out of the whole "why is the arrow pointing to the right?" joke, but then I thought, "well it wouldn't really look right if it was pointed to the left." Why? I imagine that I've got such an association now with this concept:



KG

(28,751 posts)
4. Of course it's brilliant! did you expect anything less? just like everything obama ever did!
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:20 PM
Apr 2015

brilliant!

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
5. All you have to do is look at the top of your browser.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:28 PM
Apr 2015

There are two arrows, one pointing left and one pointing right. Guess which one means go back and which one means go forward. You see this usage on software interfaces of all kinds. Left pointing arrow means go back. Right pointing arrow means go forward. The circular arrow means "repeat what you just did."

That settles this logo nonsense for me. Hillary is going forward. That's the symbolism, and people understand that. Enough with this whole thing.

If you don't believe me, do a Google Image search for forward arrow. They all point right. It's a universal symbol:

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Usually if that is available, it's because you accidentally clicked a link you didn't want
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:32 PM
Apr 2015

if we're comparing Clinton to browser buttons, she's more like this one:



You push it and end up the same place you were before you pushed it.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
9. Is that the arrow she used in her logo?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:36 PM
Apr 2015

No? Actually I use the browser arrows all the time. I often use the forward arrow on DU, for example to maneuver within threads or views of threads and posts.

Previous and Next
Back and Forward

Generally the arrow pointing to the right moves you ahead. It's a graphical standard. That's why it was chosen. And your opinion of Hillary Clinton's politics has nothing to do with the chosen graphical icon. Nothing at all.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
19. Red state, blue state, right, left politics....
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:58 PM
Apr 2015

but Hillary is all about the "browser buttons"
BWAHAHAHAHAHA

MAybe her candidacy is just "click bait"

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
34. I'd go one step farther.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:46 AM
Apr 2015

You click it and end up with whatever the page has being reprogrammed for in response to changed political winds. Same body (place), unpredictable content when the cache is refreshed.

underpants

(182,717 posts)
16. Yeah that was a stupid thing for the author to write
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:46 PM
Apr 2015

I've spiken with several architect/graphics people and the Obama logo is considered one of the best ever for any product or industry.

It struck me that any round logo (especially for a politician) is going to look like a ripoff. It wouldn't surprise me if this is why Hillary's campaign had to steal clear of the C.

underpants

(182,717 posts)
20. Right because it's about Hillary not the Clinton brand
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:18 PM
Apr 2015

No actually not that at all - I get what you are saying

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
25. Read It Again... I Saw It As You Did At First, But Now... Not As Good As Obama's "O" Is What I See..
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:48 PM
Apr 2015
It’s not Obama “ O” good (actually, I always found Obama’s logo packing a little too much heartland/waves-of-grain for my taste), but an H is awkward letter—it isn’t nearly as iconic or cool. It needed something else.


From Op.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
30. I thought his logo was brilliant.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 01:02 AM
Apr 2015

Guess the author of the OP's article was a ^H^I^L^L^A^R^Y supporter. Damn, I promised I wouldn't do that again. Oops! Never thought I'd pun on a Britney Spears song, that I've never heard more than a few notes from. Thankfully.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
13. Brilliant? LOL
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:40 PM
Apr 2015

I guess team Hillary does have a brilliant PR person to get Gizmodo to put this spin on the logo.

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
23. Might be. But Hillard's seems to have vanished after a hostile takeover nearly 30 years ago;
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:33 PM
Apr 2015

and it was a regional chain in England, that hardly anybody in the US ever heard of

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
24. Yeah, I'm not sure if I ever knew the name myself, since it was in a different region
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:38 PM
Apr 2015

It's probably just a coincidence, but the closeness of the words is notable ...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
26. Good Grief...is this real? Or Photoshopped
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:56 PM
Apr 2015

Couldn't Hillards sue the graphic designer for copyright infringement? I thought the graphic showed a lack of originality and didn't suit Hillary at all...but, this makes it clearer if real.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
31. It's real; go to the Google link and you'll find lots of photos with it in
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 04:58 AM
Apr 2015

Hillards was taken over by Tesco, the biggest UK supermarket, in 1987, and they stopped using the brand name, so I doubt anyone would be interested in intellectual property rights.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
32. Thanks...
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:55 AM
Apr 2015

I wonder what she paid for this knock off logo. Others have said it reminded them of other similar corporate logo's they've seen but the Hillards is an exact match. In her position she had money to pay a graphic designer enough money to create a unique logo...something that reflected what she wanted to project that would enhance her message. A Hillards Logo copy just doesn't seem to do the job, imho.

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