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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:41 PM Apr 2015

Pat Robertson: Gays Will Force Christians To Like Anal Sex And, Eventually, Polyamory And Bestiality

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/03/pat-robertson-gay-anal-sex-_n_6999832.html

Right-wing televangelist Pat Robertson tackled the recent controversy over Memories Pizza, which became Indiana's first business to publicly declare that they won't cater to same-sex weddings in the wake of the state's Religious Freedom Restoration Act this week.

"Most gays, if they're having a wedding, don't want pizzas -- they want cake," Robertson told "700 Club" viewers, according to Right Wing Watch. "It's the cake-makers that are having a problem."...

"You're gonna say that you like anal sex, you like oral sex, you like bestiality," he added. "Sooner or later, you're going to have to conform your religious beliefs to the group of some abhorrent thing. It won't stop at homosexuality."

Noting that Christian beliefs will "come under assault" until polyamory and polygamy are acceptable, too, Robertson lamented, "It's a weird world we're living in."


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Pat Robertson: Gays Will Force Christians To Like Anal Sex And, Eventually, Polyamory And Bestiality (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2015 OP
what is the name of that song - only the good die young? hollysmom Apr 2015 #1
Not a song but there's a great Groucho quote hifiguy Apr 2015 #51
Which one would you like? jmowreader Apr 2015 #71
Back to our conversation earlier. Hatred and distrust of gay people is well ingrained in NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #2
Unitarian Universalism, and as far as I know, Buddhism KamaAina Apr 2015 #4
The Dalai Lama has made some weird statements about "sexual misconduct" (his phrasing) LeftyMom Apr 2015 #30
Buddhism does not say you have to do things upaloopa Apr 2015 #39
pretty much any liberal christian church? eShirl Apr 2015 #38
Some already do like anal sex. It is a big hit on porn sites upaloopa Apr 2015 #3
They do. Back in the days when Catholics practiced the rhythm system of Cleita Apr 2015 #12
Um, no. The same group of people, lay people and theologians, who were against birth control were against pnwmom Apr 2015 #15
Like I have argued before theologians argue about a lot of stuff and this is one of them. Cleita Apr 2015 #18
Father Andrew Greeley was a PhD sociologist who did a lot of polling. pnwmom Apr 2015 #19
Talking to Catholics, my female friends and female relatives. That's my basis. Cleita Apr 2015 #21
Well, we know different Catholics then, obviously. But your statement was about pnwmom Apr 2015 #22
Yeah, I know. One of my cousins named her two youngest Cleita Apr 2015 #28
ALL of us? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #5
FFS, Pat... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #6
Why the fuck do GOPers and ONLY GOPers fantasize about fucking dogs and goats? Rex Apr 2015 #7
They fantasize about having intellectual equals in their bedroom Scootaloo Apr 2015 #29
That's not true! Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #43
Their weird fixations and obsessions betray the depths of their own hifiguy Apr 2015 #54
Pat you are a dirty old man who is spending way too much notadmblnd Apr 2015 #8
yup. bet he spends hours online "researching". Saphire Apr 2015 #44
Every male Christian I've ever known LOVES anal sex and oral sex and always has. blm Apr 2015 #9
They also love a good beastiality show when they see one. Initech Apr 2015 #14
Now this makes sense DJ13 Apr 2015 #10
When I was in Catholic school, I often worried about the religious who spent too Cleita Apr 2015 #11
With what? Hypnosis? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #13
Too late Pat! 99Forever Apr 2015 #16
The good preacher spends waaay too much time reading and re-reading the "dirty" part of the Bible nt LiberalElite Apr 2015 #17
Pat Robertson loves it when Quantess Apr 2015 #20
Uh, dude Aerows Apr 2015 #23
Thank god he's 85... Joe the Revelator Apr 2015 #24
Pat's a noisy windbag who likes attention. Why oblige him? struggle4progress Apr 2015 #25
How does he know, does he like it? SummerSnow Apr 2015 #26
so worried about what other people are doing treestar Apr 2015 #27
That wouldn't work anyway. RandySF Apr 2015 #31
If they're gonna like it, what's the problem? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #32
well there is that cruelty to animals thing ya know? who says the animal victims of bestiality azurnoir Apr 2015 #61
It was what was known in the parlance as 'a joke' Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #62
ah okay azurnoir Apr 2015 #64
i.e. I wasn't too concerned about actual sex with actual animals because Pat Robertson is actually Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #65
yes I know that Sir azurnoir Apr 2015 #67
Unnatural Love Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #68
.... azurnoir Apr 2015 #70
Yes, but there is Rincewind Apr 2015 #33
Pat needs more Teflon for his slope sakabatou Apr 2015 #34
SEX WITH DUCKS DetlefK Apr 2015 #35
Brilliance... SidDithers Apr 2015 #46
He's still alive? romanic Apr 2015 #36
We don't want to know your personal fantasies, Mr. Robertson. eShirl Apr 2015 #37
And I don't have a problem with voluntary polyamory and polygamy either... TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #40
He'll die soon. Iggo Apr 2015 #41
It is an intellectually dishonest position. Trillo Apr 2015 #42
Heh-heh, heh-heh, he said 'position'! Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh! KamaAina Apr 2015 #48
! NT Trillo Apr 2015 #49
Settle down, Beavis. hifiguy Apr 2015 #56
The Aristocrats!...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #45
*** Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #66
Had no idea Pat Robertson was into butt stuff. Orsino Apr 2015 #47
Most people when they start a conversation about Pizza don't end it in anal sex Johonny Apr 2015 #50
Pat seems to be longing for this Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #52
Pat never ceases to amuse.... mike_c Apr 2015 #53
Yeah, what's gonna stop Pat then?! polichick Apr 2015 #55
That asteroid heading for Orlando. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #57
Christian pastors and conservative pundits are the only folks I've ever seen discussing bestiality stevenleser Apr 2015 #58
Or, as I call it, Thursday shenmue Apr 2015 #59
He's lucky in the US one can't be prosecuted for being vile and dumb,he'd be assured a life sentence Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #60
So Pat and his followers are so Pious that if a gay couple is allowed to marry SomethingFishy Apr 2015 #63
And Christians would object to poly relationships because that never happened in the Bible?? winter is coming Apr 2015 #69
The Gay is some powerful stuff, I'm here to tell ya! jmowreader Apr 2015 #72
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
51. Not a song but there's a great Groucho quote
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:23 PM
Apr 2015

"The good die young. The schlemiels live to be 100."

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
2. Back to our conversation earlier. Hatred and distrust of gay people is well ingrained in
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:45 PM
Apr 2015

all organized religions, as far as I can tell.

Unlike Maher I wont single out Islam (though they are currently the most violent towards gay folks and women), but is there an organized religion that is universally accepting of gay people in every way including marriage?

Christian Scientists maybe?

At what point do we say it is no longer tolerable to accept any religion that has within it's base belief that gay people are not equal in every way and normal, etc?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
4. Unitarian Universalism, and as far as I know, Buddhism
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:46 PM
Apr 2015

seem to be free of it. Reform Judaism, too, for the most part.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
30. The Dalai Lama has made some weird statements about "sexual misconduct" (his phrasing)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:33 AM
Apr 2015

Like that sex during the daytime is verboten, and oral sex, and he's made conflicting statements about same sex couples.

In general his comments about sex are seriously retrograde.

So I wouldn't give Buddhism over all a pass, though of course he doesn't speak for other traditions.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
39. Buddhism does not say you have to do things
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:24 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:11 PM - Edit history (3)

or don't do things as other religions say. Rather Buddhism says investigate what the Buddha taught and see if it works for you.
Sexual misconduct is something to be avoided (again investigate for yourself) as part of the eight fold path. I have heard it defined as using sex to harm others or yourself.
The Dali Lama is not like the Pope in Catholicism. He is the leader of one sect of Buddhism only. He does not make rules for all Buddhists to follow. Buddha was a human not a god so the Dali Lama is not speaking as a representative of a god. Also Buddhist monastics abstain from sex but usually not lay Buddhist so it is important to know who the Dali Lama is speaking to.
The above is my understanding of what I have been taught.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. Some already do like anal sex. It is a big hit on porn sites
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:46 PM
Apr 2015

My guess is a lot of Christians have anal sex. And when they do they call on God or use Christ's first name at some point in the act.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. They do. Back in the days when Catholics practiced the rhythm system of
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:07 PM
Apr 2015

birth control, that is no vaginal sex while the wife was fertile, anal sex was an alternative and acceptable among the Catholics who believed that all sexual acts were okay within marriage. Of course, I don't think that included the Opus Dei crowd who were the hole in the sheet crowd, and did sex only for procreation.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
15. Um, no. The same group of people, lay people and theologians, who were against birth control were against
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:30 PM
Apr 2015

anything other than vaginal intercourse.

I'm sure there were exceptions, but married Catholics were no more likely to do anal or oral than any other married couples. There was only one acceptable place for a man's "seed" to be "spilled' and that was inside a wife's vagina.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
18. Like I have argued before theologians argue about a lot of stuff and this is one of them.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:41 PM
Apr 2015

The more conservative priests will say no but the more liberal ones say yes, and what expertise do you have on what married couples do including Catholics? Married couples do a lot of stuff, even kinky stuff, in the privacy of their bedrooms.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
19. Father Andrew Greeley was a PhD sociologist who did a lot of polling.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:49 PM
Apr 2015

But you were the one who made the claim that Catholics were more likely to do anal because they weren't using birth control. What was your basis for saying that?

I'm saying that Catholics ran the spectrum, like other married couples. But those who were so conservative they weren't using birth control were also the most likely to be conservative about sexual practices.

If you believed that every act involving "spilling seed" had to remain "open to conception" then anal or oral wouldn't be morally acceptable.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
21. Talking to Catholics, my female friends and female relatives. That's my basis.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:29 AM
Apr 2015

Oral and anal sex was very popular during those times. That was the fifties and sixties. Remember back in those days men really didn't want to use condoms especially with the wife although most Catholics really didn't have an objection to condoms either. They knew it was sinful to use condoms. They would go to confession and be forgiven. Most of the priests were very understanding.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
22. Well, we know different Catholics then, obviously. But your statement was about
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:32 AM
Apr 2015

Catholics in general, at least those trying to avoid artificial contraception, and it doesn't fit with the Catholics I know.

Those Catholics had huge families because they were all trying and failing at natural family planning.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. ALL of us?
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

So all heterosexuals will be forced to have anal sex with an animal while in a multiple partner relationship that includes oral sex?

Or would that be oral sex with an animal while engaging in...oh, never mind.

It makes me marvel at the apparent richness of his fantasy life.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Why the fuck do GOPers and ONLY GOPers fantasize about fucking dogs and goats?
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:51 PM
Apr 2015

What is it with them? Do they want 'other people' to make it happen, then they can say, 'gee well everyone is fucking goats now --- guess I have to sorry God."???

I swear that there are vegetables out in my garden with more intelligence than Pat and his brood of fuckmongers.

Now ya'll excuse me, I noticed a nice head of lettuce and I am feeling lucky...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
54. Their weird fixations and obsessions betray the depths of their own
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:26 PM
Apr 2015

closeted depravity and self-loathing.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
8. Pat you are a dirty old man who is spending way too much
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:55 PM
Apr 2015

thinking about anal, oral and bestial sex for it not to be projecting some of your deepest desires on others.

But it's ok Pat, your secret is safe with me

blm

(113,047 posts)
9. Every male Christian I've ever known LOVES anal sex and oral sex and always has.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:57 PM
Apr 2015

Of course, I am old and know a few things….and, oh yeah…I'm not fullofshit. ; )

Some Jewish guys DID have the one-finger rule, though. Nothing bigger than a finger.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. When I was in Catholic school, I often worried about the religious who spent too
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:03 PM
Apr 2015

much time thinking about carnal sins and talking about it to us...endlessly. Even horny teenagers sometimes wanted to talk about something else. Yes, it is sometimes a weird world with perverts like him are around.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
13. With what? Hypnosis?
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:16 PM
Apr 2015

How do you 'force' someone to like something?

(Edit - hmmm, maybe he's talking 'facebook' likes? Are there facebook 'anal sex' and 'beastiality' groups that you can give 'thumbs up' to?)

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
20. Pat Robertson loves it when
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:08 PM
Apr 2015

he is put against a wall and is forced to admit he doesn't actually XXX doing anything XXX, by force.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. Uh, dude
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:52 AM
Apr 2015

Lot's of straight people like anal sex, too, you know. With ... heterosexual partners.

I swear, if the bedroom habits of 90% of the "Christian" folks like Robertson were made known, the entire framework of their supposed belief structure would fall to ashes.

Exhibit A: Ultra Holy Roller married pastor that presided over my sister and her husband's marriage cornered a bridesmaid in the restroom and I shudder to think what would have happened had I not opened the door and distracted him enough so that she could knock the shit out of him.

I KID YOU NOT.

I think I've relayed that tale before, but hell, I've had so many encounters with corrupt Southern Baptists doing corrupt things, it is difficult to keep track of all of them. If someone you care about, a family member, or a family friend gets involved with Southern Baptists, God won't be helping them, you need to keep watch over them like a HAWK, because eventually something awful will likely happen if you do not.

RandySF

(58,786 posts)
31. That wouldn't work anyway.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 02:02 AM
Apr 2015

I had a gf that tried to get me to like it, and I could just never get into it.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
61. well there is that cruelty to animals thing ya know? who says the animal victims of bestiality
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:27 PM
Apr 2015

will like it?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
62. It was what was known in the parlance as 'a joke'
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:33 PM
Apr 2015

but if it makes you feel better, I didn't get past the anal sex part.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
65. i.e. I wasn't too concerned about actual sex with actual animals because Pat Robertson is actually
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:00 PM
Apr 2015

out of his actual fucking mind.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
40. And I don't have a problem with voluntary polyamory and polygamy either...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 11:26 AM
Apr 2015

What people freely choose to do is none of my business.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
42. It is an intellectually dishonest position.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:35 PM
Apr 2015

An honest position in line with his other expressed beliefs would come out against all forms of sexuality, including heterosexual vaginal sex and its related childbirth.

Johonny

(20,840 posts)
50. Most people when they start a conversation about Pizza don't end it in anal sex
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:17 PM
Apr 2015

It sort of tells you everything you ever wanted to know about Pat.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
58. Christian pastors and conservative pundits are the only folks I've ever seen discussing bestiality
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:41 PM
Apr 2015

in any way shape or form.

And I have never met an LGBT person that was into animals.

That leads to several conclusions, none of which are that LGBT folks are going to force Christians into bestiality or anything else.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
60. He's lucky in the US one can't be prosecuted for being vile and dumb,he'd be assured a life sentence
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:57 PM
Apr 2015

otherwise..what a horrid man.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
63. So Pat and his followers are so Pious that if a gay couple is allowed to marry
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:36 PM
Apr 2015

they will turn against god? What happened to faith?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
72. The Gay is some powerful stuff, I'm here to tell ya!
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:05 PM
Apr 2015

Here we have Mr. and Mrs. Jones. They're 60 years old with four children and nine grandchildren. They set aside every Friday night for some nice sedate missionary-position sex.

Then Frank and Mark, who live on the other side of town, get married on Saturday.

By next Friday, The Gay has wafted on gossamer winds across 92 blocks to the Jones house. They're no longer interested in missionary-position sex. Instead, they're having weekly orgies with every variety of TLA you can possibly imagine and a few you can't.

The Gay is such powerful stuff, if we could put it in gallon jugs we wouldn't need gasoline.

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