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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPat Robertson: Gays Will Force Christians To Like Anal Sex And, Eventually, Polyamory And Bestiality
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/03/pat-robertson-gay-anal-sex-_n_6999832.html"Most gays, if they're having a wedding, don't want pizzas -- they want cake," Robertson told "700 Club" viewers, according to Right Wing Watch. "It's the cake-makers that are having a problem."...
"You're gonna say that you like anal sex, you like oral sex, you like bestiality," he added. "Sooner or later, you're going to have to conform your religious beliefs to the group of some abhorrent thing. It won't stop at homosexuality."
Noting that Christian beliefs will "come under assault" until polyamory and polygamy are acceptable, too, Robertson lamented, "It's a weird world we're living in."
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"The good die young. The schlemiels live to be 100."
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)all organized religions, as far as I can tell.
Unlike Maher I wont single out Islam (though they are currently the most violent towards gay folks and women), but is there an organized religion that is universally accepting of gay people in every way including marriage?
Christian Scientists maybe?
At what point do we say it is no longer tolerable to accept any religion that has within it's base belief that gay people are not equal in every way and normal, etc?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)seem to be free of it. Reform Judaism, too, for the most part.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Like that sex during the daytime is verboten, and oral sex, and he's made conflicting statements about same sex couples.
In general his comments about sex are seriously retrograde.
So I wouldn't give Buddhism over all a pass, though of course he doesn't speak for other traditions.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:11 PM - Edit history (3)
or don't do things as other religions say. Rather Buddhism says investigate what the Buddha taught and see if it works for you.
Sexual misconduct is something to be avoided (again investigate for yourself) as part of the eight fold path. I have heard it defined as using sex to harm others or yourself.
The Dali Lama is not like the Pope in Catholicism. He is the leader of one sect of Buddhism only. He does not make rules for all Buddhists to follow. Buddha was a human not a god so the Dali Lama is not speaking as a representative of a god. Also Buddhist monastics abstain from sex but usually not lay Buddhist so it is important to know who the Dali Lama is speaking to.
The above is my understanding of what I have been taught.
eShirl
(18,490 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)My guess is a lot of Christians have anal sex. And when they do they call on God or use Christ's first name at some point in the act.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)birth control, that is no vaginal sex while the wife was fertile, anal sex was an alternative and acceptable among the Catholics who believed that all sexual acts were okay within marriage. Of course, I don't think that included the Opus Dei crowd who were the hole in the sheet crowd, and did sex only for procreation.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)anything other than vaginal intercourse.
I'm sure there were exceptions, but married Catholics were no more likely to do anal or oral than any other married couples. There was only one acceptable place for a man's "seed" to be "spilled' and that was inside a wife's vagina.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)The more conservative priests will say no but the more liberal ones say yes, and what expertise do you have on what married couples do including Catholics? Married couples do a lot of stuff, even kinky stuff, in the privacy of their bedrooms.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)But you were the one who made the claim that Catholics were more likely to do anal because they weren't using birth control. What was your basis for saying that?
I'm saying that Catholics ran the spectrum, like other married couples. But those who were so conservative they weren't using birth control were also the most likely to be conservative about sexual practices.
If you believed that every act involving "spilling seed" had to remain "open to conception" then anal or oral wouldn't be morally acceptable.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Oral and anal sex was very popular during those times. That was the fifties and sixties. Remember back in those days men really didn't want to use condoms especially with the wife although most Catholics really didn't have an objection to condoms either. They knew it was sinful to use condoms. They would go to confession and be forgiven. Most of the priests were very understanding.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Catholics in general, at least those trying to avoid artificial contraception, and it doesn't fit with the Catholics I know.
Those Catholics had huge families because they were all trying and failing at natural family planning.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)her rhythm babies.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)So all heterosexuals will be forced to have anal sex with an animal while in a multiple partner relationship that includes oral sex?
Or would that be oral sex with an animal while engaging in...oh, never mind.
It makes me marvel at the apparent richness of his fantasy life.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Fulfill your same sex fantasy and get it over with, already.
Rex
(65,616 posts)What is it with them? Do they want 'other people' to make it happen, then they can say, 'gee well everyone is fucking goats now --- guess I have to sorry God."???
I swear that there are vegetables out in my garden with more intelligence than Pat and his brood of fuckmongers.
Now ya'll excuse me, I noticed a nice head of lettuce and I am feeling lucky...
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)They also fantasize about fucking sheep, pigs, and box turtles.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)closeted depravity and self-loathing.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)thinking about anal, oral and bestial sex for it not to be projecting some of your deepest desires on others.
But it's ok Pat, your secret is safe with me
Saphire
(2,437 posts)blm
(113,047 posts)Of course, I am old and know a few things
.and, oh yeah
I'm not fullofshit. ; )
Some Jewish guys DID have the one-finger rule, though. Nothing bigger than a finger.
Initech
(100,067 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)much time thinking about carnal sins and talking about it to us...endlessly. Even horny teenagers sometimes wanted to talk about something else. Yes, it is sometimes a weird world with perverts like him are around.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)How do you 'force' someone to like something?
(Edit - hmmm, maybe he's talking 'facebook' likes? Are there facebook 'anal sex' and 'beastiality' groups that you can give 'thumbs up' to?)
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Bwahahahah.
Wadda freakin' clown.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)he is put against a wall and is forced to admit he doesn't actually XXX doing anything XXX, by force.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Lot's of straight people like anal sex, too, you know. With ... heterosexual partners.
I swear, if the bedroom habits of 90% of the "Christian" folks like Robertson were made known, the entire framework of their supposed belief structure would fall to ashes.
Exhibit A: Ultra Holy Roller married pastor that presided over my sister and her husband's marriage cornered a bridesmaid in the restroom and I shudder to think what would have happened had I not opened the door and distracted him enough so that she could knock the shit out of him.
I KID YOU NOT.
I think I've relayed that tale before, but hell, I've had so many encounters with corrupt Southern Baptists doing corrupt things, it is difficult to keep track of all of them. If someone you care about, a family member, or a family friend gets involved with Southern Baptists, God won't be helping them, you need to keep watch over them like a HAWK, because eventually something awful will likely happen if you do not.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)the hallmark of the right winger.
RandySF
(58,786 posts)I had a gf that tried to get me to like it, and I could just never get into it.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)will like it?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)but if it makes you feel better, I didn't get past the anal sex part.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)out of his actual fucking mind.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Rincewind
(1,203 posts)probably a down side.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Love The Loophole too.
Warning - NSFW lyrics.
Sid
romanic
(2,841 posts)Go away Pat.
eShirl
(18,490 posts)TampaAnimusVortex
(785 posts)What people freely choose to do is none of my business.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)An honest position in line with his other expressed beliefs would come out against all forms of sexuality, including heterosexual vaginal sex and its related childbirth.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)I'd assumed his show was just boring.
Johonny
(20,840 posts)It sort of tells you everything you ever wanted to know about Pat.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Just saying...
mike_c
(36,281 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)in any way shape or form.
And I have never met an LGBT person that was into animals.
That leads to several conclusions, none of which are that LGBT folks are going to force Christians into bestiality or anything else.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)otherwise..what a horrid man.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)they will turn against god? What happened to faith?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Here we have Mr. and Mrs. Jones. They're 60 years old with four children and nine grandchildren. They set aside every Friday night for some nice sedate missionary-position sex.
Then Frank and Mark, who live on the other side of town, get married on Saturday.
By next Friday, The Gay has wafted on gossamer winds across 92 blocks to the Jones house. They're no longer interested in missionary-position sex. Instead, they're having weekly orgies with every variety of TLA you can possibly imagine and a few you can't.
The Gay is such powerful stuff, if we could put it in gallon jugs we wouldn't need gasoline.