Georgia Teacher: Your Parents Aren't Christian if They Support Obama

[avebury]

She needed to be fired and her husband kicked off the School Board. Edit to Add: I think that I would have taped the meeting with Perry and her husband



http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/04/05/georgia-teacher-tells-students-their-parents-arent-christians-if-they-support-president-obama-video/

A Georgia teacher told her middle school students that if their parents support President Obama they aren’t real Christians. Then she wanted the kids to prove their Christianity to her.

Nancy Perry is somehow still an employee at Dublin Middle School after she brought her toxic religious and political views to the classroom in which she teaches. During class a few weeks ago, Perry told her students that President Obama is lying about being a Christian and said that if their parents support him, they aren’t true Christians. She then challenged the students to prove they were Christians.

Naturally, one of the students relayed his teacher’s remarks to his parents, who understandably demanded a conference with Perry to discuss her inappropriate actions.

But when the day of the conference arrived, the boy’s parents discovered they weren’t going to have a meeting with Perry alone. They would also have to deal with her husband, who sits on the school board and has political clout in the town.

As it turns out, her husband is Bill Perry, a conservative who once hosted a right-wing radio program during which he would demonize same-sex marriage and trash Democrats. Basically, Mrs. Perry brought her husband to the conference in an effort to intimidate the parents. But that’s not all they tried to do. They also attempted to convince the parents to adopt their extremist conservative views by handing them a packet full of propaganda.

[cali]

1. vile. she should be fired.

[Enthusiast]

12. +1 an entire shit load.

[Ilsa]

2. This is another example of how RW want to use religious

Freedom laws: to bully children and parents. Let her spew her claptrap in a private religious school.

[OverBurn]

28. Agreed, but now private schools are getting money from our taxes via vouchers.

[blackspade]

3. Yup, Christians sure are persecuted....

[Orrex]

4. If she's fired, she'll have $800K in her GoFundMe account by the end of the week.

Got to rally around them persecuted Christians, after all.

[angry citizen]

5. religion and school, a toxic mix

This is what happens when religion is allowed to infect schools.

[Lucky Luciano]

6. Oh how I wish I could attend that meeting!!!

These are the people I have the most contempt for - pretty much in the whole world.

My NYC "elitism," as they say, would be on full display as I look down my nose at their inferior stupidity.

They probably won't get it though. Some of the vocabulary and subtle mocking would go right over their heads.

[B Calm]

7. Teachers go to prison for less. . l

[cali]

8. huh?

Example?

[RockaFowler]

11. There were 20 Teachers in Georgia who were just sentenced last week

All for cheating

[cali]

15. yes. massive, systemic, clearly illegal cheating

Vile as this teacher and her husband are, it's hard to see what they did as illegal

[Ikonoklast]

32. Tried to violate the Constitution. Pretty cut and dried.

As a government employee, she has no right to force her religion on her students.

[cali]

44. good luck finding anything in case law that supports your claim

that it's a criminal act. By your blizzard standards a teacher saying religion is a myth could be subject to criminal prosecution. No thanks.

[Ikonoklast]

47. Teachers and districts get sued and lose these type of suits all the time.

Actionable and harm easily proven in court.

[cali]

48. they don't get charged criminally

[Ikonoklast]

62. And you're the only one bringing criminal charges up, I certainly didn't.

Civil lawbreakers are also lawbreakers.

[appalachiablue]

59. That is correct. During 2004 Asian friends were upset b/c their son's public school teacher told

them Kerry would allow gay marriage. We told them she can't say that. (Since then they've become much more accepting of gays). The GA teacher & husband should be fired. For 10+ years I was a federal govt. employee & a city govt. employee, you cannot do things like this.

[Phentex]

30. Convicted but not sentenced yet...

they are in jail until the sentencing next month. And there are 11 of them although at least 35 were originally charged. All but 12 took plea deals and one of the 12 was let off.

[aikoaiko]

42. hardly less if youre thinking about the GA racketeers

[RKP5637]

9. More reasons to detest religion, the great divider of mankind and instigator of wars. n/t

[cstanleytech]

10. And she teaches in a public school? She should have been fired imo and her husband removed

for trying to abuse his position.

[Sancho]

13. ...not a surprise at all actually....

My wife and I taught in rural SC and GA schools for years. One of my elected superintendents was a retired Baptist minister who had the schools teaching "social studies" (Bible lessons). Yes, this was a public school. My science library volume on evolution was removed from the shelf.

Almost all those schools had public prayer, sometimes a homeroom Bible lesson, or a school "convocation" with a Bible lesson.

My wife's assistant principal at one school was married to the local Methodist minister. Even more interesting, the school counselor was fired for putting up a MLK Day poster in her office. The schools were (and still are) evangelical, but often racist too. The holidays were openly Christmas and Easter.

Virtually all the students and parents were "Southern" protestant, and the denomination didn't matter. The schools in the South are slowly changing because of the internet, court rulings, and immigrants; but there is still a core of old church control. In fact, my wife got one job because her mother was a church musician. That's the typical hiring method. In the rural South, you are less likely to get a job if you are practicing Jewish, muslim, or Hindu. The culture is incestuous. Honestly, the people there don't see how bad it is unless they get out of town (which doesn't really happen much). As all of my brothers and sisters went to college and moved out, none of us want to return to that small town control and misunderstanding of basic theology.

[Trillo]

34. So that would explain why, if you are in a private school in the upper grades

the idiot administrators would believe you'd had bibel lessons. Because a minority of public schools in a narrow slice of the bibel belt were liars cheats and theives themselves.

[WinkyDink]

38. I'm sorry, but please learn this: "Bible." Spelling plus capitalization as a title. Thank you.

Especially when calling others "idiot."

[Tom Ripley]

41. Yes, like "Tales of Mother Goose", "Bible" should always be capitalized

[WinkyDink]

56. Was that supposed to sting to the quick? Because....fail. A book title was the topic, not beliefs.

End punctuation counts, too, in all fairy tales.

[Tom Ripley]

58. A post title requires end punctuation?

Really? In all cases? A title?
See what I did there, mein herr?

[Trillo]

43. Not until christians begin capitalizing and respecting pagan.

I had a number of idiot school administrators, almost all at christian private schools with thier bibel crap.

[jeff47]

52. Pagan isn't the title of a book or a proper noun.

Fucking bastards using proper grammar!!!

[Trillo]

61. Please don't make this personal.

On edit. Welcome to my ignore list.

[Jefferson23]

14. Where is the ACLU or any civil rights attorney willing to take this case?

This is bullshit, the violations are there, go after these creeps and sue them.

[sakabatou]

16. WTF?

[Trillo]

17. One implication is that only christians should hold office.

According to the U.S. Constitution, there is supposed to be no religious test for office. Poor kids are being taught myths.

[mountain grammy]

18. This is not unusual at all.

a few teachers are doing this in communities everywhere. It's happened in my district. Nobody's ever been fired but there have been a few suspensions. The public usually finds out when the whining of the "religiously persecuted" hits the newspaper, with made up facts and outrage about some teacher being suspended for wearing a cross or giving a student a bible. Bullshit, the story always goes much deeper.

Many fundies home school their kids, or set up private religious academies where they can freely express their racist and exclusionary views and, lately, I'm ok with almost anything to keep this crap out of the public schools. The push for school vouchers so I can help pay for their religious bigotry is going too far. That's happening here and is still making it's way through the courts.
If vouchers come into use in my school district, I will file some kind of religious exemption from paying the school levy portion of my property tax. Enough of my taxes already pay for religious nonsense.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

19. Catholic kids heard this for years

and it didn't matter who their parents voted for!

That's nasty behavior, and teachers who say shit like that need to be fired - union be damned. Yeah, follow the process, but get rid of them.

[IHateTheGOP]

20. If you believe in talking snakes...

Yep, believing in a talking snake is a slippery slope.

[jimlup]

21. It is not unusual for a school administrator to attend a conference to support the teacher

However, in this case it is totally inappropriate. And a member of the board certainly has no buisness at such a conference. This should be brought to the attention of the state officals. If they do nothing then the ACLU should be contacted.

[Sancho]

50. In Florida, teachers have collective bargaining and a representative would be a witness at a meeting

In SC and GA there is no union and especially in some small districts there would be few "rules" for a conference. I agree that a Board member should not be there, and if an administrator is there an informed, neutral witness would be a really, really good idea. There may not be a policy preventing the Board member from attending though.

If one wanted to reprimand the teacher or not, what was actually said to the students, documentations, etc. are all important evidence. Ditto for the parents' view. Nothing beats an independent note taker.

One thing that many people don't realize is that union representatives are often the best collectors of fact during conferences and investigations. If the teacher fouled up and broke the law or district rules, the best the union can do is make sure there is a fair process, but not fix the violation. In many cases, the "public" reporting (including the news media) can be very different than what actually happened! If the Board is pushing a religious agenda and allowing it, public airing by an organized union might be the first step to changing the Board.

[dinger130]

22. There's lots of ridiculous stuff

with the school system (Montgomery County] in my small hometown. Luckily, there's a website here in Kentucky that has been exposing all the creepy crawlies. Page One Kentucky has been all over it. All we can do is just keep ferreting these people out.

[samsingh]

23. fire both of these treacherous unAmerican bullies

[perdita9]

24. This School District wants to be sued and lose

I suggest the parents give them what they want. The only language these people truly understand is money.

[Maeve]

25. Prove my Christianity? "Father, forgive her, for she knows not what she does."

You can't beat hate with hate--better to make her crazy by quoting all the "do good to those who despitefully use you" with a smile.

Yeah, she and her bully husband need to go.

[OldRedneck]

26. She will NEVER be fired or disciplined.

Many comments want the teacher to be fired -- did you not read the article? She will neither be fired nor disciplined -- because -- HER HUSBAND IS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. She likely will be a principal next year.

It's an old Southern rural tradition: You hire your kin. Doesn't matter if they are dumb as a box of rocks. Doesn't matter if they are a felon on parole. If they are a cousin and you can hire 'em, hire 'em.

From 1995 - 2003 I worked for the Methodist church in Central Appalachia -- SW VA, S WV, SE KY,NE TN. Our ministry was such that I had a lot of contact with county school systems. I recall several schools where everyone on the staff from principal to janitor was from the same extended family, including classroom teachers who were only high school grads with no college.

One year the state of WV took over the school systems in two counties because of incompetent administrators and teachers -- fired all the cousins and in-laws, hired competent people regardless of family relationships -- and a small war ensued (rhetorically speaking, of course).

In the late 1990's at the VA Medical Center in Johnson City, TN, 36 staff members were related to the lady who was HR Director.

This woman's husband is on the school board -- that's how she got her job, that's how she'll keep her job.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

27. Dear Nancy and Bill, I think we know who are not the Christians here. -

Look in the mirror if you need a clue.

Sincerely,
TA

[brewens]

29. I've thought about getting a smart phone just for the recording capability. Does anyone

know if they tend to be effective for that? As in just having it innocently sitting next to you recording? Recording a meeting like that would be legal in my state.

I'm looking at it mostly for work purposes. I had a couple supervisors say something way out of line in a meeting and then deny it. I would have loved to have been able to call them on that, have them lie and then produce the proof they were lying.

[Cha]

31. Is she still teaching?

[LynneSin]

33. Clearly you people have the wrong bible!

Matthew 19:14-16 And Jesus said 'Let the little white children and unborn fetus come unto me for theirs should be the kingdom of heaven. But before the other children can come near me I need to see their parent's tax returns and have their parents submit to a pee test. And if the parents voted for Obama they should know they will probably rot in hell.


Don't you people have your own copy of the Convenient Scriptures for Conservative Fundies Bible

[heaven05]

35. geez...how did they become 'leaders'?

cheny is not a christian, bush is not a christian, darren wilson is not a christian, ronald reagan is not a christian, george zimpig is not a christian, condi rice is not a christian and this person teaches??!!!!. Poor kids. I am so glad Barack Obama GOT ELECTED, it finally allowed the toxic nature of this racist political system/culture to bubble out from that hidden swamp into the open for every person on this planet to see if they so choose. I'm glad the stupidity and ignorance shown by people like these two in the OP is finally diminishing the lie of american exceptionalism that has been foisted on the collective psyche of the privileged and under privileged the world over.

[3catwoman3]

36. This is sooooooooooooo...

...out of line and utterly inappropriate.

When my now 25 yr old was a HS sophomore, his chemistry teacher told the class, on the first day of the semester, that he felt sorry for anyone who did not have a faith to believe in. I called the principle immediately, and it was addressed.

[WinkyDink]

37. I will have no respect for these (or other) parents if they don't sue all the way to the SCOTUS, if

need be.

WHAT THE BLOODY HELL?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tom Ripley]

39. Her ass should be fired. Now.

[sulphurdunn]

40. Dublin is a small town

with about 3,000 students and 200 teachers in 6 schools. Demographically, it's about half black and half white. You can move a mountain easier than getting the school board to fire one its members or his wife in such a town, especially if the member is well connected. That's just the way it is. The exception would be if the teacher admitted such behavior (she hasn't), if she retaliated against the student, or if such behavior continues and more parents complained. That would force the superintendent's hand and put the school board in an awkward position. She has apparently been told to shut her damn mouth about her personal religious and political beliefs in the classroom. I'd be curious to know if she does.

[raven mad]

45. THAT kind of crap, and she's still a public employee?

I'd have fired her right off, union or no - and I'm a strong union backer!

WHEN is this total indoctrination going to end?

[treestar]

46. Sounds like it is a public school so there is no excuse for this

And how does that come up in the curriculum anyway? What subject leads to an analysis of whether or not a student's parents are Christians? Math?

[Gothmog]

49. This teacher needs to be fired

This school district just bought itself a good lawsuit

[KamaAina]

51. I'll bet she was at the head of the line calling for Obama's head

over Rev. Wright.

[Martin Eden]

53. Doublethink

These nutjobs are capable of believing Obama is a muslim AND in thrall to Reverend Wright.

[MisterP]

54. aren't these the Pubs who judge Jesus by how much HE lines up with Reagan's agendas?

[Vinca]

57. Some ask the old bigot and her husband how their IRAs have done since 2008.

Maybe they'd like to go back to the "Christian" days when the bankers stole your retirement and your house was worth less than when you bought it. I'd also like to ask them how generating hate is a "Christian" value.

[Tanuki]

60. Never fear, the Georgia NAACP has this!

http://www.41nbc.com/story/d/story/georgia-naacp-dublin-school-board-member-possibly/84055/fJzeXMfz30KQHp10tO4UTA
...."The Georgia NAACP is deeply concerned about the incident involving Nancy Perry, a teacher, and Bill Perry, a conservative radio host and member of that school board. Beyond the inappropriate remarks about the legitimacy of the faith of the President of the United States; the interference by Mr. Perry, a member of the Board of Education, in a teacher-parent conference violates SACS standards" said Francys Johnson, Statesboro Attorney and State President of the Georgia NAACP.


School Districts in Metro Atlanta including Clayton and DeKalb County have jeopardized their accreditation with similar interference in school operations by members of the governing board. SACS accreditation standards define ‘micromanagement’ as used to describe a Board Member that becomes involved in the day-to-day operations of the school district rather than setting direction through goals and policies and letting the administration determine how to accomplish the goals.”


"This is not about Mrs. Perry's First Amendment rights to express her extreme political opinions. The NAACP would defend Mrs. Perry's right as a private citizen to free speech. However, that is not appropriate for the classroom. That plus the menacing presence of her husband in the meeting with parent-teacher conference was designed for one purpose alone - to intidimate those parents" said Francys Johnson, Statesboro Attorney and State President of the Georgia NAACP.


The Georgia NAACP plans to meet with Superintendent next week. If we are not satisfied with the response then we may consider making a formal compliant to SACS or other actions."