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Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:55 PM

 

I missed the tip-off to the Wisconsin/Arizona game

I was on my hands and knees in the back of a restaraunt giving CPR to a man who collapsed. Paramedics arrived about 10 minutes later and carted him off to the local hospital - blue, unresponsive but alive. We heard later his preliminary diagnosis was heart attack and he was taken by air ambulance to the better-equipped facility in Appleton. Hope he makes it.

I had only arrived a couple minutes earlier when there was a commotion behind us. At first I though a drunk fell (statistically most probable for the venue), then that a man was having a seizure. When someone asked "does anyone know CPR?" I jumped in, checked that his throat was clear and started chest compressions. A heads-up waitress callled 911.

I had very recently read that mouth-to-mouth is no longer a required element for lay persons giving CPR, but that Continuous Chest Compression (called Hands Only by the American Heart Association) is a recommended method for "bystanders who witness an adult suddenly collapse." I started counting to 100 when another fellow joined and began mouth-to-mouth. Fortunately we were able to give the man full CPR. (When I spoke to him later I found it amusing that we were both long-time healthcare guys with virtually no hands-on clinical experience. Just a couple engineers with specialties in healthcare who had CPR training in our pasts.)


For those "unwilling, unable, untrained or are no longer able to perform full CPR" Continuous Chest Compression without mouth-to-mouth is now a "preferred method for bystanders who witness an adult suddenly collapse."

http://www.responsetrack.net/staywell/0408/Compression_Only_CPR/?1484O1B76CV



Anyway, I hope the guy makes it. Oh, and the Badgers won.

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Reply I missed the tip-off to the Wisconsin/Arizona game (Original post)
Scuba Mar 2015 OP
elleng Mar 2015 #1
irisblue Mar 2015 #2
postulater Mar 2015 #3
indie9197 Mar 2015 #4
Scuba Mar 2015 #5
hootinholler Mar 2015 #6
B Calm Mar 2015 #7
Sunlei Mar 2015 #8
marym625 Mar 2015 #9
hue Mar 2015 #10
ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #11
Laffy Kat Mar 2015 #12
Gothmog Mar 2015 #13
Enthusiast Mar 2015 #14
Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #15
unionthug777 Mar 2015 #16
uppityperson Mar 2015 #17
gratuitous Mar 2015 #18
notadmblnd Mar 2015 #19
malaise Mar 2015 #20

Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:01 PM

1. Thanks for the info.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:24 PM

2. and my evening was quiet

you rocked yours...

oh yeah....badgerbadgerbadger

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:27 PM

3. Thanks for doing that. I was recently re-certified and that was the way the Red Cross is teaching

it now.

I'm surprised more restaurants don't pay for at least some of their employees to know CPR. They should also have an AED on-site.

And the Badgers were tough tonight.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:21 AM

4. Let us know if the guy made it, ok?

I was just reading an article about a toddler that was pulled out of icy water that received over 100 minutes of CPR (by many people) and survived. I recently received CPR and AED training at work after not having it for about 10 years. I was very rusty. It definitely should be a yearly training I think. In a real emergency, the average person does not have the strength to perform CPR for a long time- you need to take turns with other qualified people.

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Response to indie9197 (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:35 AM

5. Yes, and in re-reading my post I see I failed to credit others who helped.

 

After I had been compressing for a minute or so a woman offered to relieve me. I was glad she did; I think she did a better job than I had been doing.

Others helped as well. In fact when I stood up there were people literally waiting in line to help.

I was also rusty, and have already resolved to get re-certified.


If I learn of an outcome, I'll post it. Thanks for caring.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 08:28 AM

6. The Bee Gees!

Staying Alive is about the right pace.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 08:30 AM

7. I think Wisconsin will win it!

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:07 PM

8. Thank you for posting the- Continuous Chest Compression video

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:01 PM

9. so wonderful!

You made me cry. You're quite a guy.

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I have also read that the full cpr should have fewer breaths than previously believed. I would have done exactly what you did with the hands only and just hoped I remembered correctly. But I wouldn't have jumped in until I knew no one else was going to.

I have read that Seattle has fewer people that die from heart attack because more people know cpr. It's a great thing to learn.

Good for you Scuba!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:16 PM

10. Perfect Scuba!! I always knew You were Hero material!!

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Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:17 PM

11. Nice Job Dude

I just got recertified in August. That's how they taught us.

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Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:06 PM

12. Wow! It's so rare to actually save someone's life.

Talk about that guy being in the right place at the right time! Fingers-crossed he'll continue to improve.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:11 PM

13. My firm is doing a recertification class next week

I guess that I need to attend

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Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:11 PM

14. Way to go, Scuba! Sorry I missed this post earlier.

Those Badgers were incredible!

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Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:31 PM

15. Excellent work!



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Mon Mar 30, 2015, 05:15 PM

16. my hero !!!


scuba !!!

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Mon Mar 30, 2015, 06:07 PM

17. Wonderful job. I skipped this thread earlier, thought it was about sports.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Mar 30, 2015, 06:19 PM

18. Good job!

Thankfully the waitress called 911, but if any DUers find themselves in a similar situation, just as you get to work on the victim, pick out someone from the by-standers and say, "You! Call 911 for an ambulance!" The waitress is to be commended as well, because she's going to know the address of the establishment and offer directions if needed.

Also good on woman who jumped in to relieve you. CPR can be very tiring, and switching off keeps a fresh person on the job until the varsity arrives.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:41 PM

19. When I took the class a couple of years ago, it was 30 compressions to 1 breath

whereas in the past I was taught 10 compressions to 1 breath.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:57 AM

20. Wonderful

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