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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:41 PM Dec 2011

Birthers Lack Standing to Fight Obama, Court Says

Birthers Lack Standing to Fight Obama, Court Says


(CN) - The 9th Circuit doomed another challenge to President Barack Obama's citizenship on Thursday, finding that none of the so-called birthers could show an actual injury.

Including active members of the military, state-level elected officials, an alleged member of Obama's family and former presidential candidate Alan Keyes, the plaintiffs claimed in a 2009 lawsuit that Obama was ineligible to be president because he was not a U.S. citizen.

U.S. District Judge David Carter dismissed the complaint in California after finding that none of the plaintiffs had standing to sue. A three-judge panel of the federal appeals court affirmed unanimously from Pasadena on Thursday.

Lt. Jason Freese, an active military plaintiff, argued that he and other soldiers could show injury because he "would face disciplinary action by the military" if he or other soldiers were to "refuse to follow President Obama's orders, despite his ineligibility for the presidency," according to the ruling.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/22/42498.htm

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Birthers Lack Standing to Fight Obama, Court Says (Original Post) The Straight Story Dec 2011 OP
Standing and sanity. marmar Dec 2011 #1
Here's a list of the plaintiffs: Cooley Hurd Dec 2011 #2
Every single one of them who is military.... arbusto_baboso Dec 2011 #3
Exactly! Cooley Hurd Dec 2011 #4
Okay - just emailed one of the scumbags: Cooley Hurd Dec 2011 #6
but...that is why they got Alan Keys involved demtenjeep Dec 2011 #7
Interesting. I wonder if anyone could ever have standing to bring a suit such as this. And if not, Egalitariat Dec 2011 #5
There are avenues to challenge, up until when Congress affirms the vote of the electors. creeksneakers2 Dec 2011 #8
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
2. Here's a list of the plaintiffs:
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:00 PM
Dec 2011

WILEY S. DRAKE; MARKHAM
ROBINSON,
Plaintiffs - Appellants,
and
Ambassador ALAN KEYES, Ph.D.;
Captain PAMELA BARNETT;
Lieutenant Colonel RICHARD NORTON BAUERBACH;
Captain ROBIN D. BIRON;
Colonel JOHN D. BLAIR;
Mr. DAVID L. BOSLEY;
Ms. LORETTA G. BOSLEY;
Captain HARRY G. BUTLER;
Representative GLENN CASADA,
Tennessee; JENNIFER LEAH CLARK;
Representative TIMOTHY COMERFORD, New Hampshire;
CHARLES CRUSEMIRE;
Representative CYNTHIA DAVIS, Missouri;
Chief Warrant Officer THOMAS S.
DAVIDSON;
MATTHEW MICHAEL EDWARDS;
Lieutenant JASON FREESE;
Mr. KURT C. FUQUA;
Officer CLINT GRIMES;
JULLIETT IRELAND;
D. ANDREW JOHNSON;
ISRAEL D. JONES;
State Representative TIMOTHY JONES, Esq., Missouri;
Commander DAVID FULLMER LAROQUE;
GAIL LIGHTFOOT;
MIL Officer LITA M. LOTT, U.S. Army;
Major DAVID GRANT MOSBY;
MSGT STEVEN KAY ;
State Representative FRANK NICELEY, Tennessee
Retired Senator JERRY O’NEIL, Montana;
SFC E7 ROBERT LEE PERRY;
Colonel HARRY RILEY;
Sergeant JEFFREY WAYNE ROSNER;
MSGT JEFFREY SCHWILK;
Captain DAVID SMITHEY;
Lieutenant Commander JOHN BRUCE STEIDEL;
Commander D OUGLAS EARL STOEPPELWERTH;
THOMAS J. TAYLOR;
Representative ERIC SWAFFORD, Tennessee;
Captain NEIL B. TURNER;
RICHARD E. VENABLE;
LCDR JEFF GRAHAM WINTHROPE;
Lieutenant Colonel MARK WRIGGLE,

I'll bet if you google some of these, you find a LOT of racism...

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
3. Every single one of them who is military....
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:02 PM
Dec 2011

needs to be charged under the UCMJ.

This kind of shit cannot be tolerated in a military organization, or discipline gets shot to hell.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
6. Okay - just emailed one of the scumbags:
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:20 PM
Dec 2011

[email protected]<[email protected]>;
You have Harry S Truman on your home page

He desegregated the military in 1948. Yet, you're listed as a plaintiff on this lawsuit contending the place of President Obama's birth. You DO realize that, being a plaintiff on a lawsuit born out of racism (there has been NO credible evidence that disputes President Obama's assertion that he was born in Hawaii in 1961), you no longer have the moral authority to proclaim or even CELEBRATE any of President Truman's achievements.

Please remove the picture of President Truman from your website or I will be in contact with his heirs. I'm reasonably certain they would NOT be approving of President Truman's image on the website of a racist.

Thank you and Happy Holidays!
Al G

 

Egalitariat

(1,631 posts)
5. Interesting. I wonder if anyone could ever have standing to bring a suit such as this. And if not,
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:19 PM
Dec 2011

does that mean the constitutional requirement is unenforcable if we did ever have a president who turned out not to be a natural-born citizen.

I'm pretty sure you don't have to prove you're a natural born citizen to get on the ballot, so it stands to reason that an ineligible person could get themselves elected prez one day.

If that happened, who would be injured and what would their injury be?

I was involved in a civil suit against a local government in Florida and they tried to toss me out for lack of standing because I hadn't been injured (yet). They didn't get it done, but it was the same thing that happened in this case.

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