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Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:29 AM

We have got to find a way to go after the press! They always let the republicans do all the

explaining. Example: Ron Paul on NBC this morning with Matt: Ron gets to discuss what was wrong with Hillary's email comments and he gets to discuss the 47 senator's letter. So where was the democratic voice to discuss the letter or Hillary? We never get adequate air time and that is the media not us. We say plenty but never get the microphone.
The right has destroyed every great democrat with complete aid and encouragement from the media. Carter, Clinton and on and on.
We need to come up with a great plan using social media, banners, flash mobs, leaflets whatever it takes to put an end to this media bias and that is what it is. They are biased to the monied and powerful republicans.

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Reply We have got to find a way to go after the press! They always let the republicans do all the (Original post)
rainy Mar 2015 OP
Liberalynn Mar 2015 #1
Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #28
Cha Mar 2015 #2
heaven05 Mar 2015 #6
Cha Mar 2015 #3
allan01 Mar 2015 #22
Ilsa Mar 2015 #4
rainy Mar 2015 #20
kacekwl Mar 2015 #5
Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #8
kacekwl Mar 2015 #29
Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #11
Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #7
madokie Mar 2015 #9
Snarkoleptic Mar 2015 #10
Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #12
gregcrawford Mar 2015 #15
HoosierCowboy Mar 2015 #13
Thespian2 Mar 2015 #19
Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #14
mikeysnot Mar 2015 #16
rainy Mar 2015 #21
Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #25
ellennelle Mar 2015 #17
rainy Mar 2015 #23
Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #26
kelliekat44 Mar 2015 #18
47of74 Mar 2015 #24
BobbyBoring Mar 2015 #27
Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #30

Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:04 AM

1. Television News

 

Grasp on relevancy is loosening more everyday. They will be completely irrelevant soon enough, and ignoring stories that people actually want to know about will be the reason

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Response to Liberalynn (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:32 AM

28. I disagree. They are/will not become irrelevant!

Huge swaths of Americans rely on TV for their news. The networks are owned by huge multinational corporations intent on shaping the views of as many Americans as possible. As the older generations pass on it will be somewhat less influential, but will always have a substantial impact.
To solve this, as with most of our problems, relate directly to our root problem of campaign money buying our politicians. The 6 media conglomerates should have never been allowed to get as big as they are and should've busted up. The FCC, like all regulatory agencies, has been co opted by the corporations they regulate. If we all join together, meaning the various groups fighting for their pet issue(s), i.e. Environment, women's issues, immigration, minimum wage, marihuana,..., to fight for Publicly Funded Elections and ending campaign contributions, Super PACs, and the revolving door!
The media has been the Plutocrat's best tool to shape the issues and control the voters. This is why we have hyper-partisanship and so many voting against their own interests.

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:21 AM

2. I hear ya, rainy.. Thank Goodness for the internet and social media. I dropped all corporatewhore

media in Nov 2002.

Freaking ron paul.. libertarian bullshit idiot.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:45 AM

6. 2003 for me

 

NPR and NYT were the hardest, but dumped they were. Ron Paul, just part of the paul klan....

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:24 AM

3. the teaparty hero, ron paul..

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Response to Cha (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:48 AM

22. the news media is only interested in one thing : ratings and its bottom line for the owners .

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:41 AM

4. We need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

Notify the tv news outlets that they are boycotted until they pressure Congress to bring it back.

It won't fix everything, but it's a good start.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:43 AM

20. I'm definitely writing some

letters and making some phone calls today!

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:42 AM

5. Question is

are the democratic leaders asking for the microphone ?

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:49 AM

8. What? That is not the question, new poster! That is an example of the deflection. "D" for effort.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:08 PM

29. My,question is

are they being denied the chance to speak or are they not asking for it. No deflection Fred just a simple question from a simple new poster...whatever that is.

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:01 AM

11. +1 That is a great question!

Clearly the answer is NO.

Democratic "leadership" is MIA

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:47 AM

7. The corporate media just had their number one most trusted talking head ever admit lying...what

more do you need to know?

BILBO lying not enough for Fox viewers to stop trusting them, Williams not enough for the rest of the viewing folks?

And remember Iraq....they all want you to forget.

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:51 AM

9. The media is owned by the same warmongers as who build the war machines

And if we don't get this fixed we're truly, really, for sure, fucked. More so as time goes by too

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:55 AM

10. A great place to start would be enforcing the Sherman Anti-trust act

and then bringing back the fairness doctrine.
This would put an end to media outlet consolidation and force licensees to operate in the public interest.
Operating in the public interest would bring about a renaissance in the art of investigative journalism, which is key to unmasking our corporate masters and their (s)elected puppets.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:03 AM

12. +1,000,000

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:16 AM

15. BINGO!

You nailed it!

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:04 AM

13. The Main Stream Media

in the USA is usually on its deathbed economically. Elections give it a blood transfusion and keep the monster alive. The way to undermine the MSM is to come up with a better way to deliver political messaging to the public.
Howard Dean recognized the weakness of the MSM on a lot of fronts especially the advent of the DVR, which pretty much makes political ads irrelevant for both Parties. From the perspective of the average TV viewer down at the bottom of the informational food chain television is already irrelevant, because the commercials are taking over content to such an extent that there is no more content.
So why does the GOP dump so much money into commercials that are pretty much ignored? One word: influence over an industry that still has contact with that gerrymandered republican out there in the rurals that only has antenna TV. That gerrymandered voter is the guy that will usually push a GOP candidate over the top.

Now that political commercials are ignored, the GOP must start invading content with their message and the MSM is happy to oblige one of their biggest sponsors.

Need some lyrics here:

The Main Stream Media: the BS they're feeding ya

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Response to HoosierCowboy (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:42 AM

19. Good Observation!

Watched part of a "news" show (ABC, I think) out of Miami. On vacation, hardly ever watch any TV news. The entertainment show, called "news" was at least 40% commercials. No, I didn't time them, but they seemed to take up much of the show. One segment had "news" about Miami flooding because of heavy rains. No other "news." One "feel-good" story about a dog. No wonder the low-functioning people of Florida elected a convicted felon to the governorship.

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:09 AM

14. Swarm "their" email, social media, and comment sections.

People read the the comments section,
and closely follow social media, use it!

In the media age, credibility rests largely
and perceived social status/acceptance.
If a talking head is perceived as a
though leader, they are a thought leader.
Regardless of their having any original thoughts.

Use social media to redirect, deconstruct,
and push for new perspectives and agendas.

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:30 AM

16. It starting with Clinton's impeachment

and was the final death knell on Bush V Gore... there is no news anymore. What do we do about it, don't watch it.

When people say they are news junkies, I ask them what news? There is no news and then I ask them if they know about, what ever is flying under the radar, and they are clueless. Most people don't know that Fukishima is still spilling toxins into our ocean.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:47 AM

21. That's what I'm talking about.

They decide what we need to know.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:05 AM

25. I agree with the sentiment, but it started with Reagan

The political media age started with
the election of a movie star president.

The full conversion to a media-distraction
age reached a peak during the first series
of Clinton scandals, the 90's

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:30 AM

17. FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!!

hardly anyone out there knows about this quiet regulation that was in place from the inception of the FCC in 1949, until - yup, you guessed it - the reagan admin, 1987.

he worked tirelessly - correction; his minions worked tirelessly; he was dementing - to be rid of the pesky regulation that required any and all networks that leased airwaves, be they radio or TV, honor the following:

if you accuse or malign any person or group while using national airwaves, you are compelled to give that person or group EQUAL TIME on your network in the same time slot.

many out there likely have no idea where that phrase equal time came from, or even ever heard of it.

however, it marked the meteoric rise of relentless hate-filled screeds - replete with shock jocks and faux snewz, and now the net - and the death-spiral plummet of news quality since.

[as a brief aside, note how these hi-decibel, inflammatory, incendiary rants rile those with too much time on their hands; read, the elderly and those on the road for hour after boring hour. these audiences require some stimulation, and this destructive genre gives it to them; it's all about appealing to the snake brain, and it hooks and addicts just like crack. hand it over to murdoch and ailes, and they broaden the snake brain appeal with bodacious blond babes and flashing lights and sirens, along with all manner of FEAR!! this stuff works; it's like advertising, you just have to know what to target and how. US advertising has been so good at this for so long, goebbels used it as his template for nazi propaganda; now the entire media genre is returning the favor. and because it is so successful, all the other networks have jumped on the bandwagon in order to get in on the cash. and as an aside to this aside, the latest numbers o'really is pushing on his show, showing fox on top? note that it is only with 29% of the market; next in line is 22% and so on. however, taking fox at its word as being the only alternative, when you add up all the other alternatives to the one and only fox, those alternatives get closer to 57% of the market. that's always been the case, but this comparison is never presented. now, tho o'really is enjoying increases in his audience share with this scandal (rubberneckers for the train wreck??), fox overall has been on a downhill slope as their audience dies off. we have to do better than outliving them, tho; dangers are immediate.]

if you don't think this simple little fairness doctrine rule had any such power, consider two things. first, note that, right after obama won in 08, the conservative chatter was all abuzz with the fear the rule would be reinstated. seriously; not many folks were watching for this, but i was, and it struck me as a clear indication that these folks very consciously know of this power, and deliberately rely on it for their propaganda. of course they would.

second, just think about what it would mean to have the fairness doctrine in place again. any time any of these blithering, bullying buffoons made one of their absurd, inflammatory, and/or erroneous remarks - be it hannity, o'really, savage, beck, you name it - they would be required to allow the target of said remarks to have equal time to defend themselves and rebut. seriously; think about how much hot air would be released from that insidious balloon.

and think about how much this powerful yet unassuming rule - embodying a simple courtesy that promotes civilized discourse; who would resist that? (i know; FREEDUMB!!) - would have the most profound and real trickle down effect. these freaks would no longer be able to get away with sliming obama, liberals, blacks, immigrants, the poorz, unions, or the educated; they could no long get away with the lies about banks or voter suppression or the US military or 'intelligence' or climate change. at least, not without open, uninterrupted pushback from those they target.

ben franklin had it right when he recognized that an informed public would make the best decisions for the country. but without the fairness doctrine in place - replaced by propaganda - we are no longer informed, but brainwashed.

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Response to ellennelle (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:49 AM

23. Great post! Thank you:)

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:31 AM

18. I agree....what press will go after the press? maybe Mother Jones????? nt

 

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:05 AM

24. If one can stop doing business with their advertisers

The only thing these clowns understand is $$$$.

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:09 AM

27. "More on the Clinton email scandal to 11:00"

Sez CBS yesterday. I didn't realize it was a scandal but if they say so .....

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Response to rainy (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:05 PM

30. The worst thing that could happen to the corrupt corporate media is: IGNORE THEM

 

It's already happening, only about 14% of people believe what they see on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN. About 1/2 of Idiot repubs believe the fables on Fox but a lot of them also don't believe in science so like it or not, they're just dumb as hell.

It's why people use social media, to get away from the MSM bullcrap.

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