Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:41 PM

morningfog (18,115 posts)

Hillary Clinton Did Not Keep Personal Emails (Destroyed 10,000s emails)

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton admitted Tuesday that she discarded tens of thousands of emails from a private server kept at her New York home.

In her first extended public remarks about her exclusive use of a personal email account to conduct government business, Clinton was adamant that she complied with all applicable rules and said she went “above and beyond” by handing over some 30,000 work-related emails to the State Department.

But her admission that she did not turn over roughly half the messages in her private account and will not submit them to independent scrutiny will likely fan the controversy.

“At the end, I chose not to keep my private personal emails—emails about planning Chelsea’s wedding or my mother’s funeral arrangements, condolence notes to friends as well as yoga routines, family vacations, the other things you typically find in inboxes,” Clinton said, saying attorneys she paid categorized the correspondence.

http://time.com/3739582/hillary-clinton-emails-press-conference/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Fmostemailed+%28TIME%3A+Most+Emailed+Story+of+the+Day%29

She destroyed tens of thousands of emails solely in her possession form the account she used to run the State Department. This story is not going away. And this is EXACTLY why you don't mix personal and business on the same email. This stinks.

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Hillary Clinton Did Not Keep Personal Emails (Destroyed 10,000s emails) (Original post)	morningfog	Mar 2015	OP
Only for the people foaming at the mouth.	William769	Mar 2015	#1
I would not rely on any politicians word that when they destroyed 10,000s documents from their	morningfog	Mar 2015	#2
No employee of the State Department is required to keep copies of their	DonViejo	Mar 2015	#7
Any employee should keep the two on separate accounts so we don't hear "Just trust me."	morningfog	Mar 2015	#14
Well there you go! You have your rationale for not voting for her in	DonViejo	Mar 2015	#21
Why are the pro-Hillary people so quick with personal attacks?	morningfog	Mar 2015	#22
It's all they have n/t	arcane1	Mar 2015	#35
Way to hurt a fella, LOL/NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#46
That's a PA?	Cooley Hurd	Mar 2015	#54
Sure. Not hide-able or particularly offensive,	morningfog	Mar 2015	#55
Would you trust a Bush or a Rumsfeld if they said something like that?	frylock	Mar 2015	#72
So why not have two email accounts.	Travis_0004	Mar 2015	#63
It would seem that some liberals here expect other liberals to be naive. Remember: "it's her turn"	BP2	Mar 2015	#42
Then find a candidate...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#51
The only people I ever hear saying that are never going to vote for her anyway. Same with the....	Hekate	Mar 2015	#86
William, wouldn't it be nice for the people who hate Hillary not vote for her...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#3
Gnats.	William769	Mar 2015	#5
Sometimes it ruins the whole DU experience ...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#8
Agreed.	William769	Mar 2015	#9
It does get old. n/t	GentryDixon	Mar 2015	#12
No one is required to open threads.	former9thward	Mar 2015	#13
I wasn't being literal...Just striking up conversation with an old board friend.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#19
Agreed.	William769	Mar 2015	#25
Thank You...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#28
This is why we go way back.	William769	Mar 2015	#33
They have also given you a ignore button.	William769	Mar 2015	#48
Yes, but I was not the one complaining, now was I?	former9thward	Mar 2015	#52
Actually, yes, your #13 was a passive aggressive complaint. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2015	#93
Passive-aggressive much?	DeSwiss	Mar 2015	#59
I'm not passive aggressive and I can prove it.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#67
By the way, some anonymous idiot believes you're a right wing troll.	DisgustipatedinCA	Mar 2015	#96
I administrated an email system	Aerows	Mar 2015	#118
No one has yet to show what law she violated. And if she did why isn't she being charged?	William769	Mar 2015	#152
This message was self-deleted by its author	Aerows	Mar 2015	#154
I stood up to the plate and	Aerows	Mar 2015	#155
Is this the one you are speaking of?	William769	Mar 2015	#159
It is	Aerows	Mar 2015	#160
You might want to check when that law went into effect.	William769	Mar 2015	#162
Everyone that wants to go to jail for me	Aerows	Mar 2015	#164
So now you are changing your story and can't cite a law.	William769	Mar 2015	#165
You are welcome	Aerows	Mar 2015	#167
I am not going to jail neither is Hillary.	William769	Mar 2015	#168
Never thought she would	Aerows	Mar 2015	#169
The risk is if even '1' work email turns up that wasn't part of the doc dump???	4139	Mar 2015	#4
You mean	mercuryblues	Mar 2015	#6
Disqualified, IMO.	NYC_SKP	Mar 2015	#10
Icing on the cake? I think it's the tip of the iceberg.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#17
This message was self-deleted by its author	1000words	Mar 2015	#11
so predictable. I was talking to a friend..	OKNancy	Mar 2015	#15
Mind you, if she had two email addresses, they'd still chime in.	joshcryer	Mar 2015	#20
Except they aren't. That is why you delineate.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#27
"Everything sent to .gov addresses."	joshcryer	Mar 2015	#39
Even in the presser she admitted that only the majority	morningfog	Mar 2015	#41
Then what's the big deal?	joshcryer	Mar 2015	#44
The big deal is that it cannot be left to trust.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#47
This is Filegate all over again.	joshcryer	Mar 2015	#50
It's my main issue with her - she's not a good campaigner.	CanadaexPat	Mar 2015	#60
I thought it peculiar she said she would need two devices to accommodate two accounts.	AtomicKitten	Mar 2015	#16
A DUer who worked in government explained several days ago that he would have	pnwmom	Mar 2015	#29
Stupid question: wouldn't the personal email address predate her job as SoS?	arcane1	Mar 2015	#53
I heard it was set up about the same time. But even if she had a second cell	pnwmom	Mar 2015	#56
Drug dealers carry several phones	mybuddy	Mar 2015	#70
So now she's in the same league with drug dealers?	Hekate	Mar 2015	#83
Correct... and at least at my agency.....	Adrahil	Mar 2015	#57
This was also said on CNN by one of the reporters right after her press conference today.	Metric System	Mar 2015	#77
I'm glad they pointed that out. n/t	pnwmom	Mar 2015	#92
Bullshit. She could've configured her phone anyway she wanted to.	NOVA_Dem	Mar 2015	#43
She did not say she deleted them from the server.	joshcryer	Mar 2015	#18
You are right. I will edit my parenthetical.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#23
Unless you are going to prohibit govt officials from having private e-mails ...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#24
Indeed.	joshcryer	Mar 2015	#31
If a person was inclined to do something nefarious he or she would use his...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#37
She deleted them from the server.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#173
Good.	pnwmom	Mar 2015	#26
I criticized them when they were in office and would have had they run a campaign.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#30
But you just have to "trust her" that the personal emails actually were personal.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#32
I do. And I also saw remember Kenneth Starr's investigation.	pnwmom	Mar 2015	#38
You think that the emails of the 47 traitors are on private..	misterhighwasted	Mar 2015	#34
Thank you for this Right Wing talking point!	leftofcool	Mar 2015	#36
"...will likely fan controversy"...	JHB	Mar 2015	#40
Who gives q shit, except the republicans.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#45
Would you trust a republican who did the same thing?	morningfog	Mar 2015	#49
you be honest. You think Hillary has deleted official emails?	boston bean	Mar 2015	#58
I have no idea and neither do you.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#98
let it continue to distract you. It doesn't distract me.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#105
It is going to continue to distract Hillary and her campaign.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#110
ok. whatever you say...	boston bean	Mar 2015	#111
It's already forced her first presser in years.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#114
I know following every single rule there was and breaking no law	boston bean	Mar 2015	#116
To be clear, I don't think there is something nefarious.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#119
In your opinion. You don't find her to be trustworthy.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#121
I don't trust any politician, why would you?	morningfog	Mar 2015	#123
I don't give full trust in any politician. But I trust she broke no law or rules, not based on her	boston bean	Mar 2015	#126
I've never claimed a law or rule was broken.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#132
Where you see poor judgment, I see a political attack based in falsities and a bunch of	boston bean	Mar 2015	#133
You failed to answer the question put to you. That's ok...your answer is now assumed.	DisgustipatedinCA	Mar 2015	#100
assume away.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#108
Stinks for the Gowdy crew. That's about it.	NCTraveler	Mar 2015	#61
You're not thinking about this logically.	randome	Mar 2015	#62
The issue is nobody can verify if she is releasing all the emails	Travis_0004	Mar 2015	#64
But you could NEVER verify that she has released everything.	randome	Mar 2015	#66
Anybody with a government e-mail address and a private e-mail address could do just what you suggest	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#73
You can't use private email where I work.	DisgustipatedinCA	Mar 2015	#101
I thought of that but many employees aren't confined to an office.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#102
Not arguing with you this time around, just clarifying.	DisgustipatedinCA	Mar 2015	#103
We don't disagree...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#109
Thanks.	DisgustipatedinCA	Mar 2015	#112
Still early and nice out. I need to wrest myself away from the computer.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#115
Any email sent to any employee of the govt is on that person's hard drive. What is so difficult...	Hekate	Mar 2015	#65
and any emails sent to TransCanada?	frylock	Mar 2015	#74
Nobody said she couldn't have a private email system and a private life.	TwilightGardener	Mar 2015	#79
So everyone at State did business on .gov EXCEPT Hillary?	morningfog	Mar 2015	#99
Some folks are too stupid to understand that an email once sent, is no longer ...	JoePhilly	Mar 2015	#166
This stinks. She is more a threat to us than the Republicans	LittleBlue	Mar 2015	#68
Maybe it will turn out she is a witch and consequently not a naturalized American.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#71
Somewhere someone has started building a pyre. Again.	Hekate	Mar 2015	#85
Good god.	BainsBane	Mar 2015	#69
That's why she did it--mixed her personal and professional together.	TwilightGardener	Mar 2015	#75
You were never going to, were you?	Hekate	Mar 2015	#78
I can always be won over. Especially since I won't vote for a Repub	TwilightGardener	Mar 2015	#81
Even if she had a private e-mail address and a governmental e-mail address...	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2015	#84
Seems like you could avoid of lot of mistrust and suspicion by just using the	TwilightGardener	Mar 2015	#87
If she was that clever, then why send out hypothetical secret emails in the first place?	randome	Mar 2015	#88
The whole point of setting up your own server and avoiding the federal government's	TwilightGardener	Mar 2015	#89
Right. Hundreds of thousands of emails and she chose to purge only the 'special' emails.	randome	Mar 2015	#90
LOL. OK. Just the President's policy and her own policy at State, to use	TwilightGardener	Mar 2015	#91
This won't stick and here is why.	Rex	Mar 2015	#76
Yes, Rex, this. nt	AverageJoe90	Mar 2015	#144
The PTB didn't even give a shit about the S&L Scandals.	Rex	Mar 2015	#145
Well now the media can put this aside and concentrate on the 47 Senators.	Autumn	Mar 2015	#80
republicans are attempting a coup and you're stirring up shit about emails?	bigtree	Mar 2015	#82
+1 Couldn't agree more!	B Calm	Mar 2015	#94
" . . . will likely fan the controversy."	Major Hogwash	Mar 2015	#95
Too bad	fadedrose	Mar 2015	#97
Pride goeth before a fall...	NYC_SKP	Mar 2015	#104
she never was required to keep all emails	CreekDog	Mar 2015	#106
Right, but by not segregating the accounts,	morningfog	Mar 2015	#107
I'm sure she can tell the difference. You think she deleted official emails?	boston bean	Mar 2015	#113
Why would ever take a politician on their word on	morningfog	Mar 2015	#117
Did Hillary break the law? Did she break some rule? Did she not follow some process she needed to?	boston bean	Mar 2015	#120
Hillary is the one helping the republicans.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#122
Well, here is the problem.	Aerows	Mar 2015	#124
yeah, right. No recent secretary of state before her used .gov email.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#125
Doesn't make any of it right. And if they start campaigning	morningfog	Mar 2015	#129
She followed the rules and the law. You got nothing.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#130
She did not, and neither did Bush and Cheney in 2006. n/t	Aerows	Mar 2015	#135
Not the same thing. They deleted official emails. Are you saying Hillary did that?	boston bean	Mar 2015	#136
She did something incredibly stupid.	morningfog	Mar 2015	#137
No law broken, no rule broken. You can dream about all types of things you may find nefarious.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#139
Lol, don't you get it? Since the Hillary email system is based	morningfog	Mar 2015	#141
Like I say, when you got something other than a gut feeling	boston bean	Mar 2015	#142
Had Hillary segregated her emails, the Repubs wouldn't believe that, either.	kwassa	Mar 2015	#170
Bingo.	Aerows	Mar 2015	#153
Yes. P.L. 113-187 (Records law)	Aerows	Mar 2015	#127
I'm not opening a pdf linked from DU. Post the pertinent info..	boston bean	Mar 2015	#128
It's 24 pages, but if you insist, I will	Aerows	Mar 2015	#131
The part where it will clearly state she broke the law, as you claimed.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#134
I'm an engineer not a lawyer.	Aerows	Mar 2015	#138
She didn't break the law.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#140
Please state the article	Aerows	Mar 2015	#146
She didn't violate any article.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#147
She did, indeed, and I was as angry	Aerows	Mar 2015	#149
You are wrong. I don't know what else to tell you.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#150
Repeatedly telling someone that they are wrong	Aerows	Mar 2015	#151
But you are.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#156
Sadly	Aerows	Mar 2015	#158
I've told you twice why you are incorrect.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#161
Tell me again	Aerows	Mar 2015	#163
Honestly, this is just stupid. Dubya Bush did the same thing, and worse.	AverageJoe90	Mar 2015	#143
You and I agree upon about 2 things	Aerows	Mar 2015	#148
No Hillary did not do what bush and Cheney did.	boston bean	Mar 2015	#157
I had no intention of attacking you, though, btw.	AverageJoe90	Mar 2015	#171
Thank you	Aerows	Mar 2015	#172
Message auto-removed	Name removed	May 2015	#174

Response to morningfog (Original post)

Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:43 PM

William769 (52,908 posts)

1. Only for the people foaming at the mouth.

I am so glad I have a front row seat to watch this!

Hillary Clinton Did Not Keep Personal Emails (Destroyed 10,000s emails)

1. Only for the people foaming at the mouth.

2. I would not rely on any politicians word that when they destroyed 10,000s documents from their

7. No employee of the State Department is required to keep copies of their

14. Any employee should keep the two on separate accounts so we don't hear "Just trust me."

21. Well there you go! You have your rationale for not voting for her in

22. Why are the pro-Hillary people so quick with personal attacks?

35. It's all they have n/t

46. Way to hurt a fella, LOL/NT

54. That's a PA?

55. Sure. Not hide-able or particularly offensive,

72. Would you trust a Bush or a Rumsfeld if they said something like that?

63. So why not have two email accounts.

42. It would seem that some liberals here expect other liberals to be naive. Remember: "it's her turn"

51. Then find a candidate...

86. The only people I ever hear saying that are never going to vote for her anyway. Same with the....

3. William, wouldn't it be nice for the people who hate Hillary not vote for her...

5. Gnats.

8. Sometimes it ruins the whole DU experience ...

9. Agreed.

12. It does get old. n/t

13. No one is required to open threads.

19. I wasn't being literal...Just striking up conversation with an old board friend.

25. Agreed.

28. Thank You...

33. This is why we go way back.

48. They have also given you a ignore button.

52. Yes, but I was not the one complaining, now was I?

93. Actually, yes, your #13 was a passive aggressive complaint. nt

59. Passive-aggressive much?

67. I'm not passive aggressive and I can prove it.

96. By the way, some anonymous idiot believes you're a right wing troll.

118. I administrated an email system

152. No one has yet to show what law she violated. And if she did why isn't she being charged?

155. I stood up to the plate and

159. Is this the one you are speaking of?

160. It is

162. You might want to check when that law went into effect.

164. Everyone that wants to go to jail for me

165. So now you are changing your story and can't cite a law.

167. You are welcome

168. I am not going to jail neither is Hillary.

169. Never thought she would

4. The risk is if even '1' work email turns up that wasn't part of the doc dump???

6. You mean

10. Disqualified, IMO.

17. Icing on the cake? I think it's the tip of the iceberg.

15. so predictable. I was talking to a friend..

20. Mind you, if she had two email addresses, they'd still chime in.

27. Except they aren't. That is why you delineate.

39. "Everything sent to .gov addresses."

41. Even in the presser she admitted that only the majority

44. Then what's the big deal?

47. The big deal is that it cannot be left to trust.

50. This is Filegate all over again.

60. It's my main issue with her - she's not a good campaigner.

16. I thought it peculiar she said she would need two devices to accommodate two accounts.

29. A DUer who worked in government explained several days ago that he would have

53. Stupid question: wouldn't the personal email address predate her job as SoS?

56. I heard it was set up about the same time. But even if she had a second cell

70. Drug dealers carry several phones

83. So now she's in the same league with drug dealers?

57. Correct... and at least at my agency.....

77. This was also said on CNN by one of the reporters right after her press conference today.

92. I'm glad they pointed that out. n/t

43. Bullshit. She could've configured her phone anyway she wanted to.

18. She did not say she deleted them from the server.

23. You are right. I will edit my parenthetical.

24. Unless you are going to prohibit govt officials from having private e-mails ...

31. Indeed.

37. If a person was inclined to do something nefarious he or she would use his...

173. She deleted them from the server.

26. Good.

30. I criticized them when they were in office and would have had they run a campaign.

32. But you just have to "trust her" that the personal emails actually were personal.

38. I do. And I also saw remember Kenneth Starr's investigation.

34. You think that the emails of the 47 traitors are on private..

36. Thank you for this Right Wing talking point!

40. "...will likely fan controversy"...

45. Who gives q shit, except the republicans.