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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt Was Clear That Hillary Was Getting Uncomfortable Fielding The Questions From The Press.....
at one point her eyes shifted over to her left so as to signal her people to push in and end the presser. When I saw that happen I knew that this presser would end soon and it did.
Don't get me wrong I like Hillary. I think she would be the perfect first woman president. She certainly has the experience needed garnered through her long career in politics and public service and I will vote for her should she be the Democratic nominee.
But there was something that made me also feel uncomfortable listening to her today. I don't know if I can put my finger on it - but it had to do with her voice and inflection. She seemed like she was trying to sound confident - but it just didn't come across that way. I know this probably was a high pressure situation for her to deal with - but I like her better when she comes off more at ease. She lacks the speaking style and ease of responding that President Obama has. She comes off as more rehearsed and mechanical than extemporaneous. I do realize that this situation didn't lend itself to extemporaneous responses. She was guarded because it really was setting up to be a 'gotcha' moment.
It was evident that she had prepared comments and when questioned after she made those comments - she kept gazing down to re-read and re-state the same words. I can see where she will be subject to comments that perhaps she is hiding something - even though this whole thing was likely just like she stated more of a convenience to do it the way she did.
Overall - I have to give her about a 'C' grade in handling this today. She needs to polish up on her 'A' game.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And she brought it on herself, and on us, and I'm sure there will be more.
A fresh start is what we need, with a real peoples' FDR style Democrat.
Somebody who fights for unions, for workers (American workers), for stronger regulation and reform.
Faux pas
(14,645 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)winstars
(4,219 posts)Elizibeth Warren, who I love, will NOT win a national election in 2016. Bernie Sanders, who I love, will not win a national election in 2016. Biden or Malloy, no way...
These right wing fucks are gonna make it really hard for us to vote everywhere, they are gonna defund the unions and lie about EVERYTHING in 2016. Its gonna be bloody, very bloody and IMHO, the other potential Dems just are not going to be able to carry the day, nationally or specifically in NC or Florida or NV or NM or a few others needed to win???
Better her than a Repug for 4-8 years. If they win this election, forget the Supreme Court for 30 years, lots more gerrymandering in 2020, no organized labor and tons of other things... think clean air and clean water???)
This email BS is so stupid for her to let happen but I am not going to cede the election to these bastards over this or anything like it.
Sorry but the alternative is a gazillion times worse. At least in my small mind...
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)In some ways, a corporatist in dem clothing is worse than a republican.
They ruin the brand.
Nope, not going to work.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)because at this particular moment I wholeheartedly disagree with you.
winstars
(4,219 posts)Sorry fellow Mac person, I disagree but respect your opinion.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)There's still time for a different and a better possibility...
What if Clinton wins the primary and then tanks and loses?
That is totally within the world of possibilities.
winstars
(4,219 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And I imagine if I say Warren, you might say "yeah but she said", and if I say Sanders, you might say "but he's an independent", and someone else you might say "but they'll never win".
You've got to try to listen to how sorry it sounds this early in matters to hear someone say that only (fill in blank) can save us.
It's simply not true, A. And it's counter to the way our system is supposed to work, B.
Hillary is a product of citizens united and, in some ways, the Clintons helped create that climate.
Do you really think she'll fight it?
winstars
(4,219 posts)is wishful thinking, IMHO.
How is anyone going to fight Citizens United if the pugs win. I am not sure what she would do, how about maybe not appoint any more right wing scum to the SCOTUS??? That might help a bit...If we lose this election be prepared for 6-3 or 7-2 decisions going against us in our lifetime. If that happens, check please because we (our country) will be fucked.
Its not early in the process at all. I just don't think that anyone else can possibly win in the few "swing states" left...
I would rather have Warren or Bernie but I just don't think that they would get the majority of votes in the general election. Look at what they have been doing to PBO for 6 years. And its getting worse everyday. Traitors in the fucking Senate. Nutjobs in the House. State governments that are freaking off the hook nut fucking jobs. These "people are gonna be going hog wild at whoever get the nod for our side, I am not sure if anyone, even Hilary is going to be able to fight back their onslaught.
So I wish I had your faith in the electorate but don't. Sure, Hillary might implode but at least we have a chance with her running. I just don't think the others can win. Just counting the numbers. Just business...
(sorry about the Dutch subs)
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:03 PM - Edit history (1)
She's tougher and doesn't pretend to please all sides, or one side.
She's on the side of the working people, the unemployed, smaller businesses, and doesn't pander to special demographics like some people we know, but I'm sure she'll fight just as hard.
winstars
(4,219 posts)And thanks for the brightness keys tip for my MBP!!!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)CTyankee
(63,893 posts)I will support HRC if she is the Dem candidate, altho I would prefer Elizabeth Warren. I have granddaughters and I call them "hostages to the future" on the right to choose. Only one of my granddaughters is old enough to vote. So I have to fight for them and all women coming up in this country.
Over my dead, cold body will I accept the idea that just not voting in the presidential in 2016 because of differences with Hillary.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Never been a big fan of Bill or Hillary. I just want them to go away. lol
I don't think Hillary offers anything fresh, just more of the same BS politics we've been fed year after year after year.
It's going to be a long 4-8 years for me! LOL
Thank goodness for DU so I can post snarky and silly comments about them.
I survived Carter. I survived Reagan. I survived GHWB. I survived Bill. I survived GWB. I survived Obama. I will survive Hillary.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Who are you and what did you do to NYC_SKP?
I mean totally!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)The primaries aren't even close to starting and already the Clinton Perpetual Drama Show has begun.
ENOUGH ALREADY.
I hope Hillary has the grace to step away, but I seriously doubt it.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)The stenographers in the press pool are going to keep whoring this as a scandal regardless of what she said, so from that aspect I think she handled herself very well...
CTyankee
(63,893 posts)boston bean
(36,219 posts)My feelings on this post. Suffice it to say the forehead slap and head banging against a brick wall emoticon merely scratch the surface.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)matter what. I refuse to let them determine my loyalties.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)global1
(25,225 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)And someone that "tough" would never feel unnerved by something as scripted as her own press conference.
Clearly she's not ready for prime time. And neither is her staff, for allowing her to walk into this bear trap.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I thought she was as adroit in her press conference as Floyd Mayweather is in a boxing ring, LeBron James is on a basketball court, Tom Brady is on the gridiron, and Ronda Rousey is in a Octagon.
In the fullness of time we will see whose perception becomes reality,
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Yes I saw most of it. And I sure wouldn't describe her performance as adroit.
She isn't Bill Clinton, I don't think she has the stomach for 4 years of having her motives and actions under constant scrutiny. And she isn't calm under pressure like Obama who would never even let himself get maneuvered into a situation like that. She answered questions about her statements by repeating the same statements as if repetition would make the questions go away.
Hillary Clinton isn't my favorite Democrat, but that conference made me feel sorry for her. Maybe she's getting pushed into running because she didn't look comfortable to me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)No argument from me... I do think it is odd that people, not you, think they are speaking for we when they are only speaking for me as in themselves.
I'm watching the reviews come in and while there is debate about the substance a consensus is forming that her presentation was fine.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)David Axelrod wrote a book ( Believer) about the race in which he quotes Obama as saying he had seen fear in Hillary's eyes when they talked briefly together.
She has always come across to me as fear based, and tense.
As did Mitt.
Obama has a relaxed confidence.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)global1
(25,225 posts)I believe it puts the people at ease - even in the most dire of situations.
Just yesterday when the President was responding to the Repug Letter to Iran - I marveled at how he handled that situation. I know that if I was him - I would have been livid. But as you said - he reacted with 'relaxed confidence'. He actually took a very pointed shot at the Repugs - but it sounded very level headed and without any show of anger of any kind.
That letter to me deserved the response of an 'angry black man' which the Repugs have been trying to elicit from him since he took office - but he showed a 'relaxed confidence' and delivered a very pointed message to the Repugs and the American People.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)He wasn't ready back then. People see what they want to see.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...that nothing is sacred in their attempt to get it. Such is the "first woman President" and Hillary.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)would make you feel uncomfortable to be answering questions from people who are complete idiots!
Laurian
(2,593 posts)There was one man in particular whose tone was very confrontational and disrespectful. The media seems to want to stir controversy rather than inform.
global1
(25,225 posts)it was clear that the press was out to get her and they were gunning for her.
dogman
(6,073 posts)This is another fabricated scandal and attack from the same RW conspiracy that she has dealt with for most of her adult life. At least she properly prioritized the presser. If it weren't this it would be some other fabricated scandal. The pattern of the GOP behavior toward the Clintons was, is, and will be the same forever.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)She handled them like a pro.
Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)She did nothing wrong whatsoever.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Nothing left to discuss.
But they will.
kydo
(2,679 posts)She looked and acted exactly like everyone else other then paid professional public relations people during a press conference.
I like that she mentioned the 47 traitors. In the grand scheme of things what's worse treason or sending emails? I'm going with treason on this one.
BTW did jebbie boy turn over his email server or Collen Powell for that matter?
There is no scandal here other then the press not doing their job. That's the scandal. We except this from the papparzi and tabloid -who slept with who and who looks fat and bad with out make up- type of journalists.
Too bad we don't have very many news reporters or journalist these days. If we did the real reason HRC was at the UN would have been the topic concerning HRC, which was inequality of women world wide. But even that should have been trumped by the 47 traitors.
Too bad too many are easily distracted by the sparkling fake rocks some not so scrupulous merchant is hawking, rather then an overt act of a treason by so called representatives of their government. Crazy world.
global1
(25,225 posts)It seemed to come out of the blue - but now I'm thinking that it was set-up to go that way because he knew or was advised that this Hillary e-mail issue was going to be made public in the next week or two and he needed to get out in front of it so he couldn't be accused of the same.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)And I remember a day not so long ago that some people were talking of him being the first black President of the United States!!
randome
(34,845 posts)She's no Obama, that's nothing but truth. But she did fine today and she'll do fine as President.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)Hekate
(90,565 posts)2) the Senate 47 and their Iran Letter, which is harming us all over the world, TYVM GOP
3) the emails/Benghazi/Filegate/Travelgate/ whatever the latest tedious made-up scandal is today
She handled it very well indeed, considering she was addressing a pack of drooling idiots. They completely ignored the UN/Women conference. They completely ignored the Senate 47 and whether their behavior might have constituted a breach of Constitutional law. They zeroed in on an issue that has already been debunked by every single credible source inside the federal government, and would not stop yapping.
If people get tired of being told there's no there there, it's because there isn't any there there. If people get tired of being told there is no scandal when the RW/GOP/MSM keeps saying there is a scandal, then stop listening to those sources. Those sources have proven false every single time.
Is there no individual or collective memory here? The GOP lies. The MSM is distracted by every shiny thing the GOP waves in front of it. Why do any Democrats ever believe them?