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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat do you think of the term "Dude"?
I love the term, and use it often. To me, it's a more capitalist-friendly form of "comrade."
It connotates somebody you don't want to have a beer with, but wouldn't mind taking a bong hit with.
For me it's non-gender specific. There was a time when some women objected to the term, and reply with "I'm not a dude."
I never liked "dudette" - too much like Smurfette.
You and I are both dudes, the plumbing is irrelevant.
knowbody0
(8,310 posts)dude.
TexasTowelie
(112,125 posts)Dude.
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)I think I'm too old for it to sound right coming out of my mouth, but I really like the term. It doesn't have any nasty associations to it, no bad feelings attached to the word, at least not for me.
As opposed to "Hey lady" or "sir..." both given in a condescending tone of voice...
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Well, dude for men, dudette for women. As a kid, it mortified me. "Hey, what's up, dude?" to random strangers. "Dude, how's it going?" to people in the car next to us as we waited for the light to turn green. Oh God. Horrible, horrible memories.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)ret5hd
(20,491 posts)a certain member here (since tombstoned) ruined it for me.
I remember that.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)I hate the word "dude" because of him.
progressiveinaction
(150 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Yeah, I like it.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)term of endearment. I don't mind being called dudette.
Please, please tell me 'dude' isn't going to be added to the damn'list' here.
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Love me some Rick Mercer.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)No, sorry, doesn't sound right.
dmallind
(10,437 posts)But to me it drops the user's apparent IQ by 30 points or so. Unless used sardonically or in referring to direct speech of another person, it smacks way too much of the clueless teen clique for my taste. "Guys" I can just about live with as a vernacular generic, but used as an appellation I'm not too fond of that one either.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)much of my 'growing up' happened in the Colorado mountains where "dude ranches" were cause for giggles. Said "ranches" were often at roadside, and they were notorious for hosting those who dressed like movie cowboys with no clue as to historical realities; they had fun in costume for a week or so. The word has, for me, always conjured a picture of someone pretending to be something he isn't. Enter Todd Palin...
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SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Living in So. Cal, it's just part of the lexicon. Of course, you wouldn't use dude when addressing, say, a cop or a judge or the President. But dude among friends is a sign of camaraderie. And it has so many meanings....depending on the tone you say it with.
You just ate the last rib? Dude.
Congratulations, dude, you deserved that award.
But not:
Dude, why did you pull me over?
randome
(34,845 posts)I agree some decorum is necessary.
Systematic Chaos
(8,601 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)keroro gunsou
(2,223 posts)that is all.
and yes, i use the term in a gender-neutral fashion and no one i use it on seems to care or mind.
Initech
(100,063 posts)"That or His Dudeness or El Duderino if you're not into that whole brevity thing."
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)FLSurfer
(431 posts)As a surfer it became really annoying after the Spicoli movie.
Twenty years? later I still can't stand it.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)fond of it as well.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)regardless of gender all the time. Sometimes they slip up and call a parent or grandparent "dude" as well if they are excited and absorbed in an activity. When I was a youngster, "man" was the all purpose designator, sometimes interchangeable with "cat." It is slang and the next generation will adopt something else. Least of our concerns right now.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)dmr
(28,347 posts)then he'd realize who he was talking to, & say "sorry, Mom". lol
Now the "sorries" are a hit & miss.
It doesn't bother me.
I don't care for duddette, & I thought the title "First Dude" was too cutsey.
randome
(34,845 posts)'Actor' means either gender. Soldiers often say 'Yes, Sir' when addressing a female commander -at least they do in the movies! I think feminine versions of many words will drop out of the lexicon before too long.
'Mankind' is another word that is inclusive.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And a fairly swift one, too.
Tikki
(14,557 posts)Not everyone is a dude, for sure.
Tikki
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)A group of people was "guys".
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Patronizing and/or demeaning connotations. I will be alerting on this word going forward. Huff puff huff puff.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)of status. It's a good word and I also use it often.
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(7,776 posts)edhopper
(33,570 posts)All the young....
JVS
(61,935 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)I hate the term...very condescending...dude.
flvegan
(64,407 posts)Sorry, wanted to go totally equal opportunity here. Though H8ers will stil H8. LOL!!
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)frogmarch
(12,153 posts)my 9 year old grandson calls me, his 68 year old grandma, dude.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Last edited Wed May 2, 2012, 09:26 AM - Edit history (1)
Because I'm not into the whole brevity thing,
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)As if I'm insulting them or something. I rarely use it anymore.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)In the '60s and '70s they would get angry when you called them, "man". Then there are those, particularly concentrated in the Norman/Celt South, who insist on being called "sir". My response to, "call me 'sir'!" is inevitaby sarcastic and always includes referring to the speaker as "dude".
I *like* pissing off pompous asses.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Me: "No I shouldn't - I'm older than you so I'm going to call you 'boy.' Now fetch me a glass of water, boy, and make it post haste."
Actual Conversation I had in Raleigh, NC
Taverner
(55,476 posts)And it is not our job to remove it. Hell, even pointing it out can get us into trouble.
Best thing to do is just make the pole-in-ass irrelevant and ignored
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)and I agree. Hate dudette.
yewberry
(6,530 posts)He sort of wheeled back and asked, "Dude?"
I countered with, "Duderector?"
He almost peed his pants.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)...or so it was decided in a conversation with my daughter the other day.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)"Dude."
"Dude?"
"Dude!"
"Dude."
Liquorice
(2,066 posts)the few times a guy has called me dude. I've never had a woman call me dude, and I don't use the term to refer to anyone. Dudette is just awful.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)and he calls me dude all the time. Half the time, I think he's searching for a Spanish equivalent for a female dude...but he just says dude instead. It usually makes me chuckle.
As for me, I say dude all the time. When I was a teenager, it drove my mom nuts. I'm now 34 and I think my mom finds it endearing.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Jeff Bridges?
Do I win a prize?
Are we playing word association?
I used the term in the '70's,didnt apply to women tho.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Fast Time at Ridgemont High had Spicoli calling women and men dude.
Since then, it became a unisex term
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)Vehl
(1,915 posts)Almost all my friends (and I ) use 'man' much more often than dude.
Ex : "Hey man, howsit going?" (man pronounced more like "maan" )
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)The term "dude" is absolutely male gendered, and I fucking despise being called a dude. Maybe YOU feel it is gender unspecific, but it isn't, and most women would not appreciate being referred to as a dude.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Since I know that one is gender non-specific
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)It isn't used commonly very much in CT. But my dtr and son in law in CA use it a lot.
I think it is just an amusing term for a clueless guy. I actually cover it in my ESL classes for English learners. They are often mystified by our linguistic liberties here...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The removal of that big east coast pole, from our rectal nether region.
I kid, I kid!
Sort of.
Dude.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)YMMV, of course.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I love the West Coast. I love going to visit my grandson in L.A. I know some East Coast people put L.A. down but that's because they don't appreciate it. L.A. has lots of creative people in it and that makes it extremely attractive to me. Of course, having family there helps...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Too many people. Northern California, on the other hand...
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I hear what you are saying but hey, look at NYC, when in the 40s it flourished. Why? because so many refugees from Germany and the Soviet Union flooded in. Crowded? Sure! But look at what we got with the art!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I lived down there for a while in my misspent youth. Fun, but... Traffic jams at 3 am are not my bag. Plus, as you can probably get fom my snarky and oft unpleasant demeanor (nothing personal! ) I've become a bit of a misanthrope in my old age. Oregon is precisely the right human/landscape ratio for me, now.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I'm old and pretty snarky too, so I get you, loud and clear!
Right now, home is where the heart is, and that is New England. But I'll tell you, I still hold love for So. Cal. for its shine, bad as it is...too many creative people to be denied. It is a great city. It has great museums, which I love to visit. And the terrific people there just knock me out. I love them, they are beautiful.
My grandson is a So. Cal. kid. I love it...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I mean, from Africa, originally, and before that pangaea, before that the ocean.. But.. One of these days I'll have to check out Boston.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I go up there regularly as I have 3 granddaughters near Boston. I also love going to the MFA, one of the U.S.'s great museums.
Ter
(4,281 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)But I don't use the term much. Maybe it's all this gray hair.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Song from Good Burger
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Old surf culture language that hit the mainstream.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I find its use especially idiotic.
Also, I just learned this about its origins. Sorry, West Coast
1883, "fastidious man," New York City slang of unknown origin. The vogue word of 1883, originally used in reference to the devotees of the "aesthetic" craze, later applied to city slickers, especially Easterners vacationing in the West (e.g. dude ranch, first recorded 1921).
Now, "tenderfoot" is not to be construed as the Western equivalent of that much evolved and more abused specimen of mankind, familiarly styled "dude." For even the Montana cowboy recognizes the latter. Not that he has ever seen the true prototype of a class that was erstwhile so numerous among us. But he is convinced that a person caught in the act of wearing a white linen collar, and who looks as though he might have recently shaved or washed his face, must be a dude, true and proper. {"Random Notes and Observations of a Trip through the Great Northwest," "The Medical Record," Oct. 20, 1883}
Application to any male is recorded by 1966, U.S., originally in Black English.
Marr
(20,317 posts)It can be an exclamation, an expression of disbelief, awe, or disappointment; it can be a friendly greeting, it can mean, "I'm tired" or "I'm angry", or "this is delicious". It's the Swiss Army Knife of words.
I don't actually use it much myself, but I don't have a Swiss Army Knife either.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Or if you're of any age, and you're a stoner.
Otherwise, it just sounds silly to me.
ThomThom
(1,486 posts)man like man
say what?
MADem
(135,425 posts)My concept of the word is that it has a gender connotation. A dude is a male amongst my generation, his female counterpart used to be a "chick" but that's considered sexist nowadays. I never found "dudette" anything but forced.
For my forefathers, a dude was a dandy, a sharp dresser, sometimes of questionable character. A dude could also be a guy who wasn't at home in the wild, wild west.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)No, not appropriate for all situations, but it's a great word. In my mind, dude is a gender neutral term, like "person" or "partner". I've never used "dudette".
librechik
(30,674 posts)and gender neutral for most of those. Similar to guys or you guys, but a little more current.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)Generations X and Y use it, but I've never heard a boomer or senior use it.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Guys were dudes, gals were chicks. Now you can say dooode, for astonishment.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)We didn't use it as an exclamation. It was the masculine form of "chick."
guitar man
(15,996 posts)guardian
(2,282 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)STFU Donny!