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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:58 PM

Netanyahu comic book, action movie logic echoes Bush admin lies

This is the line that really got me in Netanyahu's speech to Congress:

“Right now, Iran could be hiding nuclear facilities that we don’t know about”


Doesn't that sound suspiciously like the Bush administration's thin case for invading Iraq because of phantom WMD's that MIGHT be there and if they exist MIGHT someday be used against us?

Also, even if Iran were to get nukes, why would they use one against the US or Israel when they know that would mean instant retaliation from one of Israel's hundreds of nukes or our thousands?

They would take out maybe a city on our side, but would not even have time to gloat before everyone in their country was radioactive dust.

Individuals might become suicide bombers, but nations do not.

After the farce and crime against humanity that was the Iraq War, no leader should be able to make this kind of case without being met with boos, eggs, and rotten fruit, and their mental competence or more likely, honesty, should be publicly questioned.

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Reply Netanyahu comic book, action movie logic echoes Bush admin lies (Original post)
yurbud Mar 2015 OP
C_U_L8R Mar 2015 #1
yurbud Mar 2015 #2
Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #3
HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #4
yurbud Mar 2015 #5
HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #6
yurbud Mar 2015 #7
HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #8

Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:02 PM

1. Right now

Alien worms could be eating the
insides of Nuttinbutayahoo's brain
that we wouldn't know about

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:05 PM

2. that's more certain than the crap he said.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:14 PM

3. Yea, Iran is the threat to peace in the ME.



5/2014

* It is the demented hawks who have been the obstacle for Obama, not Iran.

snip* 6. What impact do you believe the essentially unquestioned acceptance of this fraudulent nuclear narrative is likely to have on negotiations with Iran and beyond?

It creates serious obstacles. For one, it makes the Obama Administration much more vulnerable to the arguments of Israel and its followers in Washington that Iran cannot be allowed to have any enrichment capacity. But then, the administration itself has absorbed the essential elements of the narrative into its own analysis, notably via the creation of the “breakout” concept.

“Breakout” is defined as the time it would take Iran to enrich enough uranium to weapons-grade level to allow it to construct a single nuclear bomb. But it was a bogus idea from the beginning, because it assumed that Iran had the desire to rush-build a nuclear weapon. Furthermore it was based on highly unlikely worst-case scenarios for very rapid Iranian enrichment of uranium to a level sufficient for a bomb. According to the worst-case scenarios conjured up by conservative U.S. think tanks and others promoting the myth, Iran has had the same theoretical capacity for breakout — a month or two — since 2010. But rather than racing for a bomb, it has instead converted much of the uranium it enriched to a concentration of 20 percent uranium-235 (the enrichment level that has most worried the United States) to an oxide form that makes it unavailable for enrichment to weapons-grade level.

Nevertheless, the Obama Administration has been so intimidated by the breakout drumbeat that it has now adopted a policy of limiting Iran’s breakout period to between six and twelve months. That translates into a demand that Iran agree to be stripped of 80 percent of its centrifuges, which is all but certain to ensure the breakdown of the talks. Unless the administration changes its posture — which became less likely after it publicly cited that goal as a baseline — fear-mongering propagandists may well succeed in pushing the United States into a situation of increased tension with Iran, including the possible mutual escalation of military threats. That, of course, would be the result that Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has long sought.

http://harpers.org/blog/2014/05/manufactured-crisis-the-untold-story-of-the-iran-nuclear-scare/

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:34 PM

4. Absence of evidence can never trusted to be evidence of absence

when you are dealing with a country being painted as an existential threat.

The goodness of that would be obvious if I could frighten you enough.

The lessons of Team B, are alive and shaping world politics.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:46 PM

5. anybody old enough to remember mutually assured destruction shouldn't fall for this shit

If we and the Russians scared each other enough to stop us from pulling the trigger, why would a country with far fewer nukes pull it when they know that they would be the only ones wiped off the map.

It's like trying to go on a shooting spree in a police station. You might kill a couple of cops, but you will definitely end up dead yourself.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:53 PM

6. Please, I've got my hand up! Please, over here! I know the answer!!!

A politician of a tiny country would do that because FEAR serves his purpose...

it rallies his nation to come together in support of his 'powerful' leadership...which is just what a guy running for elected office wants.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 07:53 PM

7. a politician of a tiny country would do something that got himself and his whole country killed?

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Response to yurbud (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 08:07 PM

8. No one is gonna shoot, they all understand the game

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