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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:22 PM

Orange County attorney has filed a 'Sodomite Suppression Act' with the penalty of death attached

Orange County attorney has filed a 'Sodomite Suppression Act' with the penalty of death attached


You can go to snopes if you want but this, sadly, is very true.

An Orange County, Calif., attorney has filed a proposed ballot measure with the California Attorney General’s office asking voters to criminalize homosexuality in the state and impose a death penalty sentence.

The filing, submitted along with the required fee of $200, will allow attorney Matthew G. McLaughlin to begin the process of collecting the approximately 365,000 signatures needed to put the measure before California voters on an upcoming ballot, reports Raw Story.

There are other insane tidbits in the filing—things like one million dollar fines and bullet executions. You can read his filing as a pdf, here. It will make you angry and sad but, alternately it may make you laugh.

You get classic bigoted terms from yesteryear, plus bonus terms and phrases you may have never even thought you would ever hear like:
"Buggery"
"Sodomistic propaganda"
"Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst."

He references Sodom and Gomorrha which, as we all know, is God's great victory over homosexuality—such a decisive victory that there has been no homosexuality ever since, unabated, forever. The lgbtnation article goes on to say [bold my emphasis]:

Little is known about the petitioner or if his filing is on behalf of a client.

. . . .

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/04/1368492/-Orange-County-attorney-has-filed-a-Sodomite-Suppression-Act-with-the-penalty-of-death-attached?detail=email#

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Reply Orange County attorney has filed a 'Sodomite Suppression Act' with the penalty of death attached (Original post)
niyad Mar 2015 OP
Orsino Mar 2015 #1
SwissTony Mar 2015 #34
Trillo Mar 2015 #2
niyad Mar 2015 #5
peacebird Mar 2015 #3
niyad Mar 2015 #6
Sheepshank Mar 2015 #19
niyad Mar 2015 #39
Warpy Mar 2015 #4
niyad Mar 2015 #7
Faux pas Mar 2015 #8
Oilwellian Mar 2015 #9
niyad Mar 2015 #10
Oilwellian Mar 2015 #24
HockeyMom Mar 2015 #11
Oilwellian Mar 2015 #25
Oubaas Mar 2015 #12
niyad Mar 2015 #13
hatrack Mar 2015 #60
tblue37 Mar 2015 #62
Go Vols Mar 2015 #14
frylock Mar 2015 #29
Takket Mar 2015 #15
niyad Mar 2015 #16
Exhibit A Mar 2015 #22
niyad Mar 2015 #42
msongs Mar 2015 #17
niyad Mar 2015 #18
Telcontar Mar 2015 #32
onenote Mar 2015 #20
LeftyMom Mar 2015 #41
niyad Mar 2015 #43
joeybee12 Mar 2015 #21
onenote Mar 2015 #31
joeybee12 Mar 2015 #33
gollygee Mar 2015 #23
hifiguy Mar 2015 #26
MrScorpio Mar 2015 #27
frylock Mar 2015 #28
Skidmore Mar 2015 #30
Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #35
Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #36
niyad Mar 2015 #44
PatrickforO Mar 2015 #37
2naSalit Mar 2015 #63
Hekate Mar 2015 #38
niyad Mar 2015 #45
DirkGently Mar 2015 #40
niyad Mar 2015 #46
ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #47
niyad Mar 2015 #48
jmowreader Mar 2015 #49
niyad Mar 2015 #50
bluestateguy Mar 2015 #51
niyad Mar 2015 #52
RKP5637 Mar 2015 #53
niyad Mar 2015 #54
RKP5637 Mar 2015 #55
niyad Mar 2015 #56
RKP5637 Mar 2015 #59
workinclasszero Mar 2015 #57
niyad Mar 2015 #58
workinclasszero Mar 2015 #64
Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #61
niyad Mar 2015 #65

Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:32 PM

1. Yeah, somebody's hiding something. n/t

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Response to Orsino (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:56 PM

34. Seems likely.

A few days ago, someone posted a link (I think on DU) on youtube to a guy burning a rainbow flag. I went to have a look and saw the had posted a couple of dozen times in the previous two days (and probably further back)!! Almost half of them were gay-hatred posts. I made a comment on the flag burning video pointing this out to him and asking if he had something he wanted to say. When I checked back a little later, he had removed and disabled comments on seemingly all his videos and had added a note to say he had been attacked by a cyberstalker. I don't know that I was the "cyberstalker", but the timing was pretty indicative.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:33 PM

2. Another perverted mind.

Maybe someone should file a, "Get out of our bedrooms, pervert" Act.

The crap about Sodom and Gomorrha being about homosexuals is sort of laughable, I think the reason people who read a King James version believe that it's about homosexuals is the name itself. It reminds of sodomy and gonorrhea, thus suggesting homosexual relations and disease, while the text itself says no such thing. The story was basically about residents rioting and heterosexual rape.

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Response to Trillo (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:38 PM

5. I like your idea for a new act--has been needed for a very long time.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:36 PM

3. I had to go to snopes, no offense but I just couldn't believe..... TRUE...!

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Response to peacebird (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:40 PM

6. this part is amazing:


Even if McLaughlin succeeds in collecting the required signatures, and even if the intiative then passes at the polls, the proposal still will never become law. For one, a California judge declared in 2014 that the state death penalty law was unconstitutional. McLaughlin, however, argues that California should make an exception for homosexuals:
"This law is effective immediately and shall not be rendered ineffective or invalidated by any court, state or federal, until heard by a quorum of the Supreme Court of California consisting only of judges who are neither sodomites nor subject to disqualification hereunder."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/sodomite.asp#Lb5iUO3fgwc5Xq9A.99

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Response to niyad (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:04 PM

19. I suppose, while they are wasting thime on this shit.....

 

it frees up time for everyone else to something more constructive....


like paint our living room, eat more ice cream, love my neighor as I would love myself and my family

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:03 PM

39. I like your list of constructive things

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:36 PM

4. Poor thing must be awfully tired of fighting it

to the point that he thinks if everybody else with those "unwholesome" urges were slaughtered, he need never be tempted again.

Buddy, it doesn't work that way. Even if you killed off every other male on the planet, gay or straight, you'd still be lusting after them in your dreams.

Freud put forth the theory and the U of GA confirmed it. Now can we all say "latent?"

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Response to Warpy (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:41 PM

7. latent and oh-so-fearful

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:51 PM

8. I don't think it'll fly in Calif

he would have a better chance down south somewhere. Sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm in case anybody wonders.

All I can do is shake my head and scream at the bigotry and ignorance.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:06 PM

9. I believe oral sex is also sodomy

I don't think this ballot proposal was thought through completely.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:10 PM

10. that would imply a mental capacity for actually thinking, would it not?

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Response to niyad (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:45 PM

24. Well, you do make a good point

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:14 PM

11. They need a dictionary

Clueless. Sodomy is oral or anal sex. The gender of the couples is irrelevant. Going to have a whole lot of citizens on death row with this one.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:49 PM

25. Yeah, death row for a blow

It has a nice Sharia Law ring to it. LOL

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:38 PM

12. It's 2015? Really?

So, let me see if I understand this. You can do something like this and still keep your license to practice law in California? In CALIFORNIA?

What's it like in less "enlightened" states? I guess being rational isn't a prerequisite in California.

I think maybe it's time that we as a species quit picking on people who happen to be different in some way and start worrying about stuff like major cities running out of drinking water.

But then, maybe I'm an idiot. Maybe we should be howling about which e-mail Hillary used and ignoring things like Antarctic ice melt and what it might mean. Perhaps my priorities are all screwed up. I did suffer a nasty head injury. Maybe the bullshit really is the important stuff, and I'm just quibbling over minor issues.

I think I'll go on over to my favorite news site and see what the Kardashians and Lindsey Lohan are up to lately. Surely that must be important and deserve more page space than the stuff that I think matters.

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Response to Oubaas (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:42 PM

13. amazing, is it not? so easy to get distracted by the bright, shiny things.

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Response to Oubaas (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:36 PM

60. That's a really big, long roofing nail, and you just drove it THROUGH the wall

The whole fucking bullshit parade in a nutshell. Thank you!

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Response to Oubaas (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:28 AM

62. Orly Taitz is a member of the CA bar. Apparently CA lawyers get accredited

as soon as they slip on the decoder ring from their Crackerjacks box.

Her degree is from a correspondence school not accredited by the ABA, but she is legally licensed to practice law in *California* if she wants to, though not elsewhere.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:43 PM

14. When I saw Orange County

I expected this to be from Fla.

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Response to Go Vols (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:13 PM

29. me too, but Orange County CA is a right-wing stronghold

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:44 PM

15. when will he be disbarred?

For proposing a bill that is completely contrary to the constitutional rule of law that he has sworn to uphold?

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Response to Takket (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:47 PM

16. I doubt anything will happen to him. I do wonder, however, which institution gave him

a law degree--would suspect liberty.

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Response to Exhibit A (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:21 PM

42. oh my, he went to a legit law school? how in the hell did that happen?

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:49 PM

17. so will the Log Cain Republican group endorse this? after all, they think repubs are the way nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:55 PM

18. have never understood belonging to a group that hates you.

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Response to niyad (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:25 PM

32. How better to change it?

 

Work from the inside

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:15 PM

20. not the first idiotic proposal from this idiot

Matthew McLaughlin is a graduate of UCLA-Irvine and the George Mason School of Law in Fairfax VA. Eleven years ago he came up with a ballot initiative proposal that would have required the placement of the King James bible in the curriculum of California public schools. My understanding is that he failed to get the required signatures to get that proposal on the ballot -- and he's highly unlikely to be any more successful this time.

Once an idiot. Always an idiot.

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jan/12/local/me-bibleman12

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Response to onenote (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:20 PM

41. Small correction: UCI is it's own school.

It's not University of California at Los Angeles- Irvine.

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Response to onenote (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:22 PM

43. oh my, so he has been an idiot for a very long time.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:17 PM

21. I googled the nutjob and couldn't find anything...nt

 

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:22 PM

31. see post #20

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Response to onenote (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:36 PM

33. Thanks...

 

He sounds like a prize

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:06 PM

23. Wow. If he ever had any credibility as an attorney before this . . .

it's gone now.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:29 PM

26. Nuttier than squirrel shit.

 

My only question is why this looney running around loose and unmedicated??

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:49 PM

27. Looks like someone needs to increase their Lithium dosage. nt

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:12 PM

28. these people just cannot stop thinking about gay sex

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:21 PM

30. Has anyone asked how he is going to

fund The Bedroom Patrol Unit to enforce such stupidity? What a hate filled fool.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:57 PM

35. Just wait until he finds out about John Wayne.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:26 PM

44. oh my, the comments alone are worth the read!

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:35 PM

37. LOL - It's actually the Koch brothers...

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #37)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:58 AM

63. OR...

the [strike]morons[/strike], I mean the mormons. they were big finders of Prop. 8.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:38 PM

38. That's someone who is going to be laughed out the state

Too ridiculous for words

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Response to Hekate (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:28 PM

45. nah, he's been around for a long time, with ridiculous proposals. see post 20.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:09 PM

40. Yikes. n/t

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:29 PM

46. I think someone ought to do to him what a group did to wbc--if only we could find his actual

address (the one listed in the calbar site is a mailbox express box)

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:30 PM

47. Oh but males and females can do it together without getting shot.

What a Fuckerhead. If he's going on about sodomy-- the definition including cunnilingus in a state or two--he should get it right
The term is derived from the Ecclesiastical Latin peccatum Sodomiticum or "sin of Sodom", which in turn comes from the Ancient Greek word Σόδομα (Sódoma).[8] Genesis (chapters 18-20) tells how God wished to destroy the "sinful" cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Two angels are invited by Lot to take refuge with his family for the night. The men of Sodom surround Lot's house and demand that he bring the messengers out so that they may "know" them (the expression includes sexual connotations). Lot protests that the "messengers" are his guests and offers the Sodomites his virgin daughters instead, but then they threaten to "do worse" with Lot than they would with his guests. Then the angels strike the Sodomites blind, "so that they wearied themselves to find the door." (Genesis 19:4-11, KJV)

In current usage, the term is particularly used in law. Laws prohibiting sodomy were seen frequently in past Jewish, Christian, and Islamic civilizations, but the term has little modern usage outside Africa, Islamic countries, and the United States.[9] In the various criminal codes of the U.S., the term sodomy has generally been replaced by the term deviant sexual intercourse, which is described as any form of penetrative intercourse or cunnilingus between unmarried persons.[10] These laws have been challenged and have sometimes been found unconstitutional or been replaced with different legislation.[11] Elsewhere, the legal use of the term sodomy is restricted to rape cases where anal penetration has taken place.[12]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:31 PM

48. it is quite clear that knowledge is not his strong suit.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:53 PM

49. You guys are missing the best parts

d) No person shall serve in any public office, nor serve in public employment, nor enjoy any public benefit, who is a sodomite or who espouses sodomistic propaganda or who belongs to any group that does.

Since the Democratic Party "espouses sodomistic propaganda" in these guys' view, this proposal bans the Democratic Party within the state of California.

and the VERY best part:

f) The state has an affirmative duty to defend and enforce this law as written, and every member of the public has standing to seek its enforcement and obtain reimbursement for all costs and attorney's fees in so doing, and further, should the state persist in inaction over 1 year after due notice, the general public is empowered and deputized to execute all the provisions hereunder extra-judicially, immune from any charge and indemnified by the state against any and all liability.

This ballot measure effectively repeals Section 187 of the California Penal Code on November 8, 2017. Since "he was a sodomite" would be an absolute defense against murder and you KNOW the state of California isn't going to start shooting gays in the head, this proposal would allow you to kill anyone you don't like, claim they're gay, and walk free!

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #49)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:55 PM

50. channeling ko-ko here.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:01 PM

51. If it passed, a judge would declare it unconstitutional on election night

nt

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #51)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:03 PM

52. the fact that it could conceivably get that far in a supposedly civilized state is depressing.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:03 PM

53. A deranged mind is a horrible thing to possess! n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #53)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:04 PM

54. you are correct. pity there are so many of them out there.

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Response to niyad (Reply #54)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:11 PM

55. You know, I often ponder is the rate the same or has it increased ... or do we just have

greater visibility. As one of my professors recently remarked, "they're crazy deranged people all over the place now. And now they publish freely on the internet with no peer review!"

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #55)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:13 PM

56. thanks for the laugh!!

by the way, I hope your professor actually wrote "there are crazy. . . )

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Response to niyad (Reply #56)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:22 PM

59. ...

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:14 PM

57. Well if the republicans gain the white house

 

along with control of congress, you can count on the bagger theocracy to try and make this a Federal law.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:16 PM

58. shades of heinlein's "interregnum" (everyone remember nehemiah scudder??)and "the handmaid's tale"

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Response to niyad (Reply #58)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:20 PM

64. "The Handmaid's Tale"

 

Yup, that's the republican blueprint I bet.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:17 AM

61. Wait for it...



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Response to niyad (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:39 PM

65. . . .

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