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Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:04 PM

Just a general observation on priorities about the past couple of days.

The Alabama Supreme Court has rejected a ruling from a Federal Judges and ordered same sex marriages STOPPED!

Hillary Clinton is accused of something to do with her e-mails while she was Secretary Of State.

Which one is being harmed here?

One is getting talked about & the other being swept under the rug.

Well, Hillaryís the talk of the town & the LGBT Community in Alabama are having their rights recently given to them, yanked right out of their fucking hands. If you think Iím not pissed, youíre wrong!

It was Hillary Clinton at the United Nations as Secretary Of State that said

ďThis recognition did not occur all at once. It evolved over time. And as it did, we understood that we were honoring rights that people always had, rather than creating new or special rights for them. Like being a woman, like being a racial, religious, tribal, or ethnic minority, being LGBT does not make you less human. And that is why gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights.

It is violation of human rights when people are beaten or killed because of their sexual orientation, or because they do not conform to cultural norms about how men and women should look or behave. It is a violation of human rights when governments declare it illegal to be gay, or allow those who harm gay people to go unpunished. It is a violation of human rights when lesbian or transgendered women are subjected to so-called corrective rape, or forcibly subjected to hormone treatments, or when people are murdered after public calls for violence toward gays, or when they are forced to flee their nations and seek asylum in other lands to save their lives. And it is a violation of human rights when life-saving care is withheld from people because they are gay, or equal access to justice is denied to people because they are gay, or public spaces are out of bounds to people because they are gay. No matter what we look like, where we come from, or who we are, we are all equally entitled to our human rights and dignity.Ē

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/hillary-clinton-gay-rights-speech-geneva_n_1132392.html

Guess which of these two Stories in the news I am more concerned with?

If we are not all equal, nothing else matters.

So for the people that I know from around town & around the U, S. & the world while youíre foaming at the mouth about something that doesn't mean didly squat, Iíll be fighting the good fight to help secure the freedoms for my brethren in Alabama.

Just some food for thought.

Good night.

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Reply Just a general observation on priorities about the past couple of days. (Original post)
William769 Mar 2015 OP
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #1
Rex Mar 2015 #2
William769 Mar 2015 #3
mountain grammy Mar 2015 #20
SoapBox Mar 2015 #24
uppityperson Mar 2015 #25
greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #4
ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #5
sheshe2 Mar 2015 #6
William769 Mar 2015 #7
spanone Mar 2015 #8
whereisjustice Mar 2015 #9
William769 Mar 2015 #10
whereisjustice Mar 2015 #13
William769 Mar 2015 #17
whereisjustice Mar 2015 #19
William769 Mar 2015 #35
uppityperson Mar 2015 #27
one_voice Mar 2015 #11
pinto Mar 2015 #12
freshwest Mar 2015 #14
SidDithers Mar 2015 #15
geek tragedy Mar 2015 #16
Cha Mar 2015 #36
Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #18
stevenleser Mar 2015 #21
ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #22
Raine1967 Mar 2015 #23
father founding Mar 2015 #26
Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #40
freshwest Mar 2015 #47
William769 Mar 2015 #52
Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #28
freshwest Mar 2015 #48
Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #29
Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #30
Number23 Mar 2015 #31
ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #33
Cha Mar 2015 #34
William769 Mar 2015 #37
Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #42
Cha Mar 2015 #32
Aerows Mar 2015 #38
Rex Mar 2015 #39
McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #41
lovemydog Mar 2015 #43
zappaman Mar 2015 #44
msanthrope Mar 2015 #45
freshwest Mar 2015 #49
MerryBlooms Mar 2015 #46
MineralMan Mar 2015 #50
giftedgirl77 Mar 2015 #51
raven mad Mar 2015 #53
Iliyah Mar 2015 #54
Cryptoad Mar 2015 #55

Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:10 PM

1. Great post Bill!

 

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:23 PM

2. The FBI needs to step in and haul the Alabama SC off in shackles. In their robes in daylight.

 

Yes I know I am exaggerating what should happen, but only by one degree. So now we have judges deciding the rule of law based on their own opinion of social relationships, based on nothing to do with the law! Rogue justice systems, just what we needed at a time like this.

We should expect this kind of thing to happen in Russia. Yes I make fun of Alabama (and my state Texas) as being backwards, but as backwards as the former USSR? Proof that republicans have no bottom level. No standard they will not violate and destroy.

Oh yeah the other news, HRC keeps unclassified emails on her own ISP. After catching the CIA spying on Congress (which is not an desputable opinion) and her being a former senator...yep my going off here. Might as well hand over all your private conversations to the NSA in hopes someone there doesn't hate you.

My own personal CT.

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:32 PM

3. I'm right there with you!

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:53 PM

20. I'm there too!

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:37 AM

24. Yes...I absolutely agree.

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:41 AM

25. Very much so, wouldn't that be nice to see?

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:33 PM

4. Equality for all!

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:34 PM

5. Thank you!

A hearty kick and very much recommended!

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:52 PM

6. "If we are not all equal, nothing else matters."

Yes,^^^ this^^^ exactly William. This.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:57 PM

7. Kind of ties in with this.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:00 PM

8. k&r...

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:11 PM

9. I remember Hillary being against same-sex marriage until her polling democraphics and triage team

informed her that many rich people are in favor of gay marriage and it would be a politically convenient time to change her position to secure better funding for a presidential campaign.

Sort of like when she triangulated to a new position on the Iraq war nearly 10 fucking years later when she acknowledged that to get more money from donors she might have to admit her vote would have been different knowing what we now know or some bs like that.

I'm told that buying and selling principals on the free market is the trait of an excellent leader for the Democratic Party.

But I don't believe that so I'm not Ready for Hillary.

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:14 PM

10. And I gather from your post the LGBT community can go fuck themselves.

One can only assume that because not a peep out of you about that.

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Response to William769 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:37 PM

13. No, I'm a liberal, I am frequently told to go fuck myself by conservatives on this site...

as for LGBT issues, those concerned should question if Hillary's dial-o-matic triangulation system is what you want representing your best interests.

I support same-sex marriage. And being in Texas, I'm aware of the chaos. But as a liberal, I know Hillary is not going to represent me in the area of wages, benefits, education, job loss, off shoring, corporate power, environement, war, NSA, etc. Likewise, I also believe Miss Opportunity isn't the dedicated champion the LGBT community can depend on.

On the other hand, if warning you away from Hillary makes me an enemy of LGBT in your mind, nothing I can say will change your mind and I have wasted my time in reply.

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:46 PM

17. 1st impressions and in this case 2nd impressions also.

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Response to William769 (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:47 PM

19. whatever.

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:33 AM

35. One thing is for sure, the question LGBT Alabamians will be asking is

where is justice.

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:46 AM

27. And what does ANY of that have to do with media coverage of emails vs LGBT civil rights?

Perhaps you missed the point of this OP. Let's try this again.

The Alabama Supreme Court has rejected a ruling from a Federal Judges and ordered same sex marriages STOPPED!

Hillary Clinton is accused of something to do with her e-mails while she was Secretary Of State.

Which one is being harmed here?

One is getting talked about & the other being swept under the rug.

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So for the people that I know from around town & around the U, S. & the world while youíre foaming at the mouth about something that doesn't mean didly squat, Iíll be fighting the good fight to help secure the freedoms for my brethren in Alabama.


There. Now do you understand? Or is it still fine that media and omg-ness coverage is all about omghillary'semail and not civil rights?

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:19 PM

11. K&R

Excellent post.

Equality for all.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:36 PM

12. +1. Yeah, media focus is a snapshot format these days. A tweet mind set.

Depth, background and context just take too much time. Now, to the break...

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:37 PM

14. 'If we are not all equal, nothing else matters.' Those who ignore that are not our allies.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:40 PM

15. DU rec...



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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:41 PM

16. Don't forget millions threatened with losing

 

health care, war with Iran, DHS shutdown threat.

Priorities.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:46 PM

18. The priorities of our corrupt media oligarchies are to blame for many of our countries problems.

I just posted on the same issue about the Snowden leak and NSA spying. Whether Snowden was a hero or a zero is not the big story except to the extent that whistleblowing now is a life sentence for anyone doing it. The real story that had its 15 minutes was the spying. All emails and phone calls recorded by our government and accessible to hundreds of thousands of government employees and contractors, not to mention several corporations. All this in violation of our Constitution!
Even here I bet there are more stories about Snowden's guilt or innocence rather than the spying itself.
The media oligarchs do whatever the advertisers or Plutocrats want, not to mention their own self interest considering they all own other companies with their own dirt to cover up and interests to advance. We could change this if people would stop fighting the symptoms and attack the root problem that causes almost all of the others, campaign finance (legal bribery). This is what allows them to control our government, along with the media's assistance.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:56 PM

21. Extraordinarily well said! K&R x 10^10^100

 

The old Googolplex K&R!

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:17 AM

22. Heh!

I'm going to have to remember that one!

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:32 AM

23. I would like to kick this into American consciousness.

This is the thing that matters!

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:44 AM

26. I see Ypu

 

Don't forget that all emails and phone calls recorded by our government are accessible by a foreign government, now why would they want them.

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Response to father founding (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:42 AM

40. What?

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:20 PM

47. Not the worst I've read on DU in the last 24 hours.

A couple of threads all but called you out by name. The media doesn't want us to hear certain voices so they change the subject constantly.

William is making a defining point with the thread. Is this OP being read or thought about seriously, or is it going to get knee jerk replies?

I didn't even bother with replying to some threads and posts last night...

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Response to freshwest (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:56 PM

52. ...

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:11 AM

28. This sounds like

the "Wag the Dog" effect that we discussed in my International Relations class today. The "author" (aka. the media) is pushing less important stories, while giving less airtime to stories that have more of an impact on ordinary people. As usual, they rely on the gullibility of the general public.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:26 PM

48. Ah, I just posted before I read your reply. It's great your class is discussing that! An example:



President Obama Reacts to Netanyahu's Address to Congress

By Bloomberg Business - 2015-03-03

President Barack Obama talks about today's speech to a joint session of Congress by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In his address, Netanyahu said an emerging U.S. agreement with Iran would backfire and ensure that the Islamic Republic would gain a nuclear arsenal.


Obama continues working on real peace, while media spins trivialities. Talk about 'wagging the dog.'

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:14 AM

29. k&r

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:17 AM

30. It really let's us know who are TRUE allies are and who they are not.

Some even made it well known in this very thread. It is a manifestation of heterosexist privilege.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:22 AM

31. K&Fucking rec. I don't mean in any way to detract from your excellent OP

but the Ferguson info that the DOJ just released has also shown a breathtaking and astonishing violation of an entire community's Constitutional and human rights.

And hardly a peep about that or the issue in your OP from the "liberaler than thous" here whining and screaming about the Third Way and counting their useless recs as they trash talk some bullshit about EMAIL SERVERS.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:25 AM

33. +1000

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Response to Number23 (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:31 AM

34. ..



Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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AG Holder points out that Ferguson PD would arrest Black people because of "their manner of walking down a roadway"

What racism looks like
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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/03/04/a-tweet-or-two-253/

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Response to Number23 (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:35 AM

37. You are absolutely correct.

I am more than happy to have that in this thread also.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:58 AM

42. YUP!

Shows who is really trying "to divide" and it ain't just the right!

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:25 AM

32. Mahalo for your post, William! Guess which one

I'm more concerned with?

G'night!Alabama

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:37 AM

38. This going on nextdoor

 

in Alabama is pissing me off to the extreme. Our only hope is when it goes before the Supreme Court, under the 5th Circuit's decision to bump it.

We aren't going away. They can dream of little aborted babies going to heaven, men that are compassionate and kind but murdered because they wear a skirt, and cracking the skulls of the public with the "Good Book" because we aren't giving in, going away or getting lost.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:20 AM

39. Fundamentalist judges going against the law. Just what we need, Evangelical laws...God help us.

 

I've had some bad words about Hoovers FBI, but this is 2015 - here is a situation that screams out for their help! That tired scream from the downtrodden. One that shouldn't even be happening in America the richest fucking nation on the planet!

Did we go backward from the Civil Rights movement? Certainly with 50 years passing, we should see a much more proactive law enforcement tackling issues from Ferguson to the rogue Alabama SC.

They can get pissed about pot and torrents, but not a persons basic civil rights? How about an entire FUCKING TOWN? How about an entire FUCKING STATE!?

When will this special form of abuse be taken to task? 2015. No excuses.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:48 AM

41. K&R for clear sightedness.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:00 AM

43. Thanks William769.

That story matters a great deal.

I'm not sure why there's so much discussion here about Hillary, in terms of she's the devil incarnate or she's the only logical nominee. Personally I'd like to see other nominees. But why go round and round about it in a circular manner? I doubt it's changing anyone's mind very much.

Whereas this Alabama thing is a flagrant violation of federal law. It also directly harms people. It's just wrong.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:41 AM

44. Big kick and rec!

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:21 AM

45. Excellent OP. We need to stop the HRC bashing--it's FUD. nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #45)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:29 PM

49. Ironically, it also hurts the work of Warren and Sanders, but they're just strawdogs for the FUDers.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:33 AM

46. rec & kick

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:29 PM

50. Well said. K&R

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:35 PM

51. K&R for being absolutely right...

 

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:12 PM

53. Human rights trump bullshit every time.

Fuck what Hillary does.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:27 PM

54. Alabama again.

Insane religious nutcases. Their "pure" hatred for anything that is not them. LGBT community will eventually prevail but the total battle of these so called "Christians" is absurd, no wonder why so many people are swaying away from Christianity.

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Response to William769 (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 07:00 PM

55. Where is the outcry and call for,,,

the US Marchall to take over the SCOAL????????

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