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WEDNESDAY, May 25 (HealthDay News) -- Older adults who say they've had a life-changing religious experience are more likely to have a greater decrease in size of the hippocampus, the part of the brain critical to learning and memory, new research finds.
According to the study, people who said they were a "born-again" Protestant or Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy" compared to people who identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again.
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As people age, a certain amount of brain atrophy is expected. Shrinkage of the hippocampus is also associated with depression, dementia and Alzheimer's disease.
In the study, researchers asked 268 people aged 58 to 84 about their religious affiliation, spiritual practices and life-changing religious experiences. Over the course of two to eight years, changes to the hippocampus were monitored using MRI scans.
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anti-alec
(420 posts)Thanks for the link - it just confirms what I thought - Republicanism, Birchers and born-agains are essentially the same thing.
Initech
(100,040 posts)Combine mob mentality, religious extremism, anti women vitriol, and a fondness for the apocalypse and this is how Taliban style governments are created.
Cirque du So-What
(25,908 posts)the brain pathology may make some more susceptible to 'religious experiences' and other forms of woo.
patrice
(47,992 posts)credited in MULTIPLE categories of individuals, when, actually, they'd likely be NO different in almost any other status-quo.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)I tell them I got it right the first time.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:32 PM - Edit history (1)
that the second time through the birth canal, crushed their skulls...guess thats where the Jesus eyes comes from.. sort makes me think, they would respect their own mothers more however..
Enrique
(27,461 posts)coincidence?
madamesilverspurs
(15,799 posts)to post something that is hurtful to many of those who bring positive energy to these boards. There are many DUers who hold great faith and exercise its positive aspects to our benefit. Let's leave the snide dismissals to those better suited to such things. We are, after all, supposed to be better than that.
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Zalatix
(8,994 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Like science and critical thinking skills?
I say no more, no more pandering. Religion needs to be ostracized so in 1000 years we won't have idiots in power passing societal laws based on the ramblings of a carpenter
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)And why is this "hurtful" to the people you describe?
Is a medical study of the human brain a "snide dismissal"?
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Getting bent out of shape because reality didn't take anybody's feelings into consideration is ALWAYS counterproductive.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)again in the 70s--Johnny Cash, Jimmy Carter
as for the "Catholic born-agains," they might be Charismatics, who are heavy into neolib Prosperity Gospel
handmade34
(22,756 posts)new study on analytical thinking and faith
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/04/to-keep-the-faith-dont-get-analytical.html
"...One example comes from a study by neuroscientist and philosopher Joshua Greene and colleagues at Harvard University, published last September in the Journal of Experimental Psychology. They asked hundreds of volunteers recruited online to answer three questions with appealingly intuitive answers that turn out to be wrong. For example, "A bat and ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?" Although $0.10 comes easily to mind (it's the intuitive answer), it takes some analytical thought to come up with the correct answer of $0.05. People who chose more intuitive answers on these questions were more likely to report stronger religious beliefs, even when the researchers controlled for IQ, education, political leanings, and other factors.
In the same study, another group of volunteers wrote a paragraph about a time in their lives when either following their intuition or careful reasoning led to a good outcome. Those who wrote about intuition reported stronger religious beliefs on a questionnaire taken immediately afterward. If intuitive thinking encourages religious belief, as Greene's study suggested, analytical thinking might encourage disbeliefor so Gervais and his adviser, social psychologist Ara Norenzayan, hypothesized..."
whistler162
(11,155 posts)do they actually believe this garbage in whatever form it crops up!
Anne Coulter on Liberals
Some other idiot on Conservatives
Same garbage different approach.
I pity all the bigots who suck this up.
longship
(40,416 posts)This morning I went to church and prayed, "Thank you, Jesus."
BadgerKid
(4,549 posts)Regardless of whether God "is" or not, to be able to perceive God requires a brain, or more exactly, the neural connections comprising the brain. Change the neural connections due to atrophy, and voila, you perceive a different God.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Among older people who report "born again" experiences there is a meaningful positive correlation with shrinkage of the hippocampus.
All science says precisely what it says, no more, no less.
What other people might do with the results does not affect the results themselves.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)The hippocampus is that part of the brain that interferes with our ability to know God.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)pretty much a definition of rw churches.
meow2u3
(24,759 posts)There'd be a whole lot of brain atrophy there!
UnconventionalWisdom
(1 post)Here's what the article says: "According to the study, people who said they were a "born-again" Protestant or Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy" compared to people who identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again."
Almost universally, people posting responses jumped on the "Christians are brain-damaged morons" bandwagon. But who has hippocampal shrinkage - in addition to those who say they're born again? According to the article, "those who had no religious affiliation".
It looks like atheists and agnostics do-gooders who want to save Christians from certain brain atrophy will never succeed because they themselves have brain atrophy to worry about.
Before ranting about someone else's supposed brain atrophy, cure your own.
Just sayin'