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spanone

(135,769 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:11 PM Apr 2012

TN saggy pants law signed by Gov. Haslam

thank god!!!! ....

The "saggy pants law," a proposal that would prohibit students from dressing in an “indecent manner” at school, has been signed by Gov. Bill Haslam.

Haslam signed the measure this week. The legislation prohibits students from exposing “underwear or body parts in an indecent manner that disrupts the learning environment.”

A stricter version of the proposal failed to pass the legislature three years ago.

That measure targeted individuals who wear pants below the waist-line and imposed a fine of up to $250 and 160 hours of community service.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120426/NEWS0201/304260068/TN-saggy-pants-law-signed-by-Gov-Haslam-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

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TN saggy pants law signed by Gov. Haslam (Original Post) spanone Apr 2012 OP
I find saggy pants annoying bluestateguy Apr 2012 #1
The don't wear then silly. Guy Montag Apr 2012 #22
Unless they are going to the prom kctim Apr 2012 #48
Screw the GOP! Wasting time and peoples tax money. There was a story today on Nashville Channel 5 Lint Head Apr 2012 #2
Look at that room full of suits. Tsiyu Apr 2012 #9
Looks like voter fraud to me. LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #18
The latest around here is pajama bottoms... eom Purveyor Apr 2012 #3
Yes, I always wear Pajama Jeans. I love them. n/t RebelOne Apr 2012 #45
Good old small government there! TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #4
I don't know why Turbineguy Apr 2012 #5
Good. I don't care to emilyg Apr 2012 #6
The Republic is saved! Hissyspit Apr 2012 #12
Who gives a fuck what you care to look at? phleshdef Apr 2012 #28
I give a F what I look at. emilyg Apr 2012 #34
Then look the other way. This world is full of things that people don't like. phleshdef Apr 2012 #39
The government doesn't have the emilyg Apr 2012 #54
Um no they don't. They tell corporations what they are allowed to sell as food. phleshdef Apr 2012 #56
How does the government tell you what to eat?! mac56 Apr 2012 #85
Then don't fucking LOOK! Occulus Apr 2012 #70
What an impressive vocabulary emilyg Apr 2012 #72
Maybe a delicate soul such as yourself Tsiyu Apr 2012 #75
But there's stories of nekkid people, rape, all kinds of violence, and a man singing to another man Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #86
Too true...Judges has the wonderful story Tsiyu Apr 2012 #88
But it's easy not to look as more and more poor Tennessee boys are shoved out of school... antigone382 Apr 2012 #84
Thank you Tsiyu Apr 2012 #87
Do you think we need a law to take care of this? proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #33
Not really. emilyg Apr 2012 #53
It would be against the law for a teacher to ask a student to show their ass Harry Back Apr 2012 #77
I don't care to MineralMan Apr 2012 #35
Tennessee alreaady has a quite effective school to prison pipeline. antigone382 Apr 2012 #38
Here are the cracks I hate to look at snooper2 Apr 2012 #47
Then don't. Easy enough for you? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #49
Part of 'keeping government OUT' of American's lives. (sarcasm) Tx4obama Apr 2012 #7
Freedom to be just like everyone else and conform to their standards. Bake Apr 2012 #30
republicans love the 'less government' slogan, but DO the exact opposite. spanone Apr 2012 #69
And they let these nitwits spend the public's money? n/t MrModerate Apr 2012 #8
Sick, isn't it? Tsiyu Apr 2012 #10
And Arizona's legislature is passing a law about the UN's Agenda 21. These republican legislatures pampango Apr 2012 #60
The fashion police lunasun Apr 2012 #11
it's lunacy..... spanone Apr 2012 #13
Baggy pants are going out of style here proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #15
Not fast enough. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2012 #59
How stupid proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #14
Next up - Fanny Packs! progressoid Apr 2012 #19
If this law is imposed on both genders equally alittlelark Apr 2012 #16
And baggy pants will just morph into something else. Gregorian Apr 2012 #17
America always finds a way to criminalize young black males MrScorpio Apr 2012 #20
thanks for getting straight to the point... Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #24
started by the Grand ole Opry ? Go Vols Apr 2012 #50
String Bean! limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #62
I see your point, but Tennessee has no problem dragging poor white boys through the system, either. antigone382 Apr 2012 #40
Calling underwear "indecent" is absurd . . . markpkessinger Apr 2012 #21
Since when do high school dress codes ... surrealAmerican Apr 2012 #23
Exactly. This is completely unnecessary. n/t antigone382 Apr 2012 #41
Quote from the article Aerows Apr 2012 #25
Haslams's family money got him the Gubbner position Tsiyu Apr 2012 #66
He sounds as bad as the politicians Aerows Apr 2012 #67
Oh, he is as bad Tsiyu Apr 2012 #71
FREEDUMB! FSogol Apr 2012 #26
This will definitely create jobs!!! JoePhilly Apr 2012 #27
Yes! I am so glad at least one state is focusing on what's REALLY important! smirkymonkey Apr 2012 #58
... woo me with science Apr 2012 #80
I can't say 'saggy pants' is a fad since people have been doing it for years now. WI_DEM Apr 2012 #29
Oh thank god!!1 HappyMe Apr 2012 #31
Will no one think of the plumbers? nt Javaman Apr 2012 #32
+ 1,000,000,000. Chorophyll Apr 2012 #36
Next up in Tennessee: Outlaw jeans on women. MineralMan Apr 2012 #37
Another great victory for our God given right to never be exposed to anything Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #42
why not law imposing a fine for excessive cleavage or other displays of flesh? Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #43
Well, you beat me to this one ... cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #46
Saudi Arabia is a fine model for laws about decency. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #55
Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Let's not get crazy here! Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2012 #61
lol Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #64
Because the law's targetting a specific group of people, nothing more. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Apr 2012 #44
Davy Crockett wept! Hubert Flottz Apr 2012 #51
i've said it before ............ socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #52
Republican priorities are always messed up AsahinaKimi Apr 2012 #57
wow Sheepshank Apr 2012 #63
TN Legislature is terrible I think the passed the Evolution law as well. TNLib Apr 2012 #65
saggy pany dukie Apr 2012 #68
Thank God nothing important needs to be done. Let's just pass more laws that target Suji to Seoul Apr 2012 #73
More Repuke "small government" actions! They are nuts. williesgirl Apr 2012 #74
Can't schools make their own dress codes??? Puzzler Apr 2012 #76
But did it really pass the House? NashvilleLefty Apr 2012 #78
Didn't that go out of style in the 90's anyway? Ter Apr 2012 #79
These guys better shape up, then n2doc Apr 2012 #81
Go get 'em, TN ACLU. proverbialwisdom Apr 2012 #83
Decency crusades are always distractions. Orsino Apr 2012 #89

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
2. Screw the GOP! Wasting time and peoples tax money. There was a story today on Nashville Channel 5
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:38 PM
Apr 2012

about state congressmen voting for they're friends who are absent when votes are taken to make it look like they were not absent. The TN legislature is full of fools. http://www.newschannel5.com/story/17796991/nc5-investigates-state-lawmakers-ghost-voting

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
9. Look at that room full of suits.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:33 AM
Apr 2012


These cretins are living in a state that is poverty-ridden, with few decent jobs, high unemployment in many areas, high teen pregnancy rate, high infant mortality rate, too many uninsured poor and working class, and all these fucking dimwit suits can do with our tax money is worry about schoolkids' asscracks?

I've lost hope that Tennessee's Snobby Goober Governor will ever care about the poor.

And I give up waiting for the TN backwoods, fool legislators to do the right thing. Ever. EVER.


They want to look like ignorant, racist pigs so they can appeal to their local church ladies. They don't give a goddamn about the people who are hurting in this state.

It makes me physically ill and sad to look at the lot of them.








Turbineguy

(37,278 posts)
5. I don't know why
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:54 PM
Apr 2012

there should be a law against saggy pants. If somebody wants to walk around suggesting, "I'm ready to be your prison bitch!", well, more power to them.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
28. Who gives a fuck what you care to look at?
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:11 AM
Apr 2012

We should pass laws to satiate what you do and don't care to look at?

I don't dress that way myself, but people that do aren't showing off their cracks anyway. The style involves boxer shorts. You aren't looking at anyones crack. But even so, who gives a flying figgety fuck? We shouldn't go around passing fucking fashion laws to satiate self important, shitty people.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
39. Then look the other way. This world is full of things that people don't like.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:04 PM
Apr 2012

The fact of the matter is, its harmless to you if someone sags their pants or not. It looks silly, but it doesn't affect you and you nor the government has any BUSINESS telling people how they can dress.

I know you want to PRETEND like its some sort of indecent exposure or something, but its really not, and deep down inside, you know better. Keep your fucking fashion opinions out of the laws that dictate the freedoms of others.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
56. Um no they don't. They tell corporations what they are allowed to sell as food.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:14 PM
Apr 2012

You can go eat a pile of dog shit if you felt like it. The goverment won't try to stop you.

Regardless, comparing consumer food safety issues to telling people how they can dress is a desperate argument at best. Is that really as good as you can do to defend your stance?

 

emilyg

(22,742 posts)
72. What an impressive vocabulary
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:06 PM
Apr 2012

you have. Hard not to look when they're crossing in front of my car or walking ahead of me in a store.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
75. Maybe a delicate soul such as yourself
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:13 AM
Apr 2012


should just stay home, pull down the shades and read your Bobble.


Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
86. But there's stories of nekkid people, rape, all kinds of violence, and a man singing to another man
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:45 AM
Apr 2012

in that book of fables.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
88. Too true...Judges has the wonderful story
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:21 PM
Apr 2012


of a guy who sends his daughter out to be raped and murdered (you see, the bible hates wymmins) and then she's hacked into twelve pieces...

And there's the story of a couple of daughters who sleep with their dad in that book. And I think Jesus was naked on the cross...FOR SHAME!!!!!

So maybe she should just put on dark glasses and stare at her own walls?



antigone382

(3,682 posts)
84. But it's easy not to look as more and more poor Tennessee boys are shoved out of school...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:25 AM
Apr 2012

...and into the prison system, where they're shut away from your view. Flippant and intentionally callous responses to arbitrary and unecessary laws that have real impacts on peoples' lives are far more offensive to me than anyone's vocabulary or dressing habits.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
87. Thank you
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:15 PM
Apr 2012


It's a tragedy in this state, and Haslam and his henchmen in the legislature plan on making it worse.

It seems Republicans hate the idea of schools, colleges, educational opportunities, but they LOVE the idea of cheap prison labor for their corporate goon buddies.

I wish Tennesseans would wake up and vote in the best interests of these kids. But all the TN voters have to do is hear "Jesus! Guns! Abortions! Gays!" and they vote like suckers for the guys who will make their lives - and the lives of their children - a living hell.

It's frustrating to see people continually vote to destroy their own futures.




 

Harry Back

(17 posts)
77. It would be against the law for a teacher to ask a student to show their ass
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:24 AM
Apr 2012

adult teachers - minor students

Yet students, by hanging their ass out, make teachers look at their ass all the time.
So now I guess teachers have more leverage with this law? I dunno really.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
38. Tennessee alreaady has a quite effective school to prison pipeline.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:03 PM
Apr 2012

I know more kids who ended up dropping out due to continual run-ins with administrators or legal issues in school than I can count. I went to five different high schools, and nearly every one had a dress code which prohibited baggy pants, so a law (complete with a $150 fine and 250 hours of community service) is unnecessary and excessive. This will put a huge additional burden on families that are already poor and have minimal access to decent social services. I deeply fear that this will result in even more students in Tennessee dropping out or giving up in the face of a draconian and adversarial "learning" environment.

Zero-tolerance "law and order" solutions are not the only ways to deal with social problems...in fact I consider them the least effective ones.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. Part of 'keeping government OUT' of American's lives. (sarcasm)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:10 AM
Apr 2012

Another example of what 'freedom' means to republicans.


spanone

(135,769 posts)
69. republicans love the 'less government' slogan, but DO the exact opposite.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:11 PM
Apr 2012

and some idiots will never catch on to it!!!

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
10. Sick, isn't it?
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:36 AM
Apr 2012


But my fellow Tennesseans keep electing these assclowns.....they must love being cheated, is all I can say.

They sure aren't getting their money's worth out of these pigs...


pampango

(24,692 posts)
60. And Arizona's legislature is passing a law about the UN's Agenda 21. These republican legislatures
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:29 PM
Apr 2012

have apparently solved all the normal problems that state governments deal with like poverty, unemployment, infrastructure, public education, etc., so they have time and money to spend as the fashion police and solvers of international conspiracies. Must be nice!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002618285

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
11. The fashion police
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:37 AM
Apr 2012

$pending tax $ to make it a law
Wont even be in fashion 10 yrs from now or less =wasteful gov't

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
14. How stupid
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:11 AM
Apr 2012

Baggy pants are annoying but we don't need a law banning them. They're going out of style anyway.

alittlelark

(18,888 posts)
16. If this law is imposed on both genders equally
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:13 AM
Apr 2012

I predict 3 X more female offenders in red states (...do tramp stamps also count as 'underwear' ?).

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
17. And baggy pants will just morph into something else.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:28 AM
Apr 2012

Shit, the baggy pants are part of a reaction to laws like this one.

Are these people total idiots? That was rhetorical.

How about a law requiring peace, love, and understanding. They'd get more positive changes that way. Dingbats.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
24. thanks for getting straight to the point...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:44 AM
Apr 2012

If this was a fashion trend started by the Grand Ole Opry demographic, we'd hear nothing of it...

To say nothing of the fact that the goddamned 90s are OVER--I haven't even seen saggy pants regularly for about a decade...

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
40. I see your point, but Tennessee has no problem dragging poor white boys through the system, either.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:06 PM
Apr 2012

I love my state, but I know more young men cycling through the prison system than I can count. Their future is being ripped from them. It's such a tragedy.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
21. Calling underwear "indecent" is absurd . . .
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:04 AM
Apr 2012

Opaque fabric is opaque fabric, whether it happens to be cotton, silk, denim, spandex, wool, khaki or whatever.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. Quote from the article
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:56 AM
Apr 2012

"
The Republican governor earlier this month cited coverage of the saggy pants bill as an example of what he called the media's failure to pay attention to substantive measures."

The MEDIA'S failure? Really, GOP governor, you blame the MEDIA for covering this type of bullshit legislation, and not the legislators who are WASTING TAX DOLLARS and time coming up with crocks of shit like this?

It's the MEDIA'S Fault? Dear God, could there possibly be a more obtuse individual?

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
66. Haslams's family money got him the Gubbner position
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:55 AM
Apr 2012

And do a search to see how they (Pilot - owned by his family)) price-gouged hurting people during emergencies. They are pigs. Haslam is their pefect, snorting, greedy, ignorant piglet.

He's another little George Bushie, doing the bidding of the state's 1%. He has an ignorant room full of suits to fellate him and pass all the laws to benefit the VERY RICH in this very poor state.

The saggy pants law is all he can throw to the poor folks - regulate us some more and soon all the pretty new prisons will be full and Haslam's buds in the For-Profit-Prison scene will have more to donate to his next campaign!

ALL Republicans are blood-sucking leeches. (With apolgies to the innocent actual leeches of our nation's waters.)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
67. He sounds as bad as the politicians
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:07 PM
Apr 2012

in the neighboring state where I live of MS. Where do we dredge these pieces of crap up, and why do they keep getting elected in our beloved South? We need to vote these crap piles out of office and elect some decent people. I'd love to start with Haley Barbour. What an idiot he is! Pardoning people that are murderers because they do renovation that benefit's him. What sense does that make?

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
71. Oh, he is as bad
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:35 PM
Apr 2012


Haslam comes from a criminal family of entitled scum who fleece the little people.

Runs on the "smaller gubbmint" promise, then passes this sort of tripe, which should be the domain of the local school boards.

He and his little sycophant goons in our legislature will not be happy until they completely drain this state of any happiness or prosperity for any but the 1%.

They get elected because of outside money, because they don't properly fund schools that teach the importance of voting, and because they have disenfranchised so many people, those people can't vote.

With the new voter ID laws the legislators passed ( because those ugly, greedy, racist, pigs KNOW they should be tossed out on their greasy asses by decent people so they have to do something to stop people from voting) they are practically guaranteed lifetime terms in Nash Vegas.

Bill Harmon is a decent guy, as far as TN legislators go. Haven't seen which way he voted, but he's better than most. I really feel sorry for the Dems in our legislature now.

BTW, when I get really down, I go here, to The World's Most Dangerous Beauty Salon. Juanita really gets Southern/Texas politics and sticks it right back to 'em. It gives me a laugh so I can carry on:

http://juanitajean.com/


HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
31. Oh thank god!!1
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 10:04 AM
Apr 2012

The children are saved!!11
I'm series1!!

Legislating what people wear is always a good use of time.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
42. Another great victory for our God given right to never be exposed to anything
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:23 PM
Apr 2012

we don't like to see other people doing.

And teh stupid marches on...
K&R

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
46. Well, you beat me to this one ...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:39 PM
Apr 2012

but there will not be a law against cleavage because the Principal brings her into the office to determine if too much boob...side or front...is showing. Hmmm...let me see here...LOL.

I remember the days when they made girls kneel down, and if their skirt didn't touch the ground, it was indecent.

Response to spanone (Original post)

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
51. Davy Crockett wept!
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:45 PM
Apr 2012

As much as republicans kiss the Koch brother's asses, you'd think they'd be immune to saggy pants.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
52. i've said it before ............
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:48 PM
Apr 2012

Nashville's collective IQ goes down 40 points when these idiots are in town.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
63. wow
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:33 PM
Apr 2012
The Republican governor earlier this month cited coverage of the saggy pants bill as an example of what he called the media's failure to pay attention to substantive measures.

...meanwhile the Governor appears to miss the irony of the Government of TN not addressing substantive measures.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
65. TN Legislature is terrible I think the passed the Evolution law as well.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:55 PM
Apr 2012

and I think they were planning on doing something similar to women who were sports bras shirts.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
73. Thank God nothing important needs to be done. Let's just pass more laws that target
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:02 AM
Apr 2012

urban youth, because we know the suburban and rich white-boy wannabes will never get targeted by this law.

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
78. But did it really pass the House?
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:25 AM
Apr 2012

Newschannel5 (Nashville) just did an expose (Ghost Votes) showing House members voting for other members who weren't there - effectively voting twice! They would simply lean over and press the vote buttons in the empty desk next to them. Many of them used sticks to reach the buttons.

They just passed (or did they?) Voter ID laws, and yet many of them are voting twice just by using a stick.

Go to newschannel5.com and search for Ghost Votes for the shocking videos.

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