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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 04:49 PM Jan 2015

Would you vote for a hypothetical US Senate candidate like this:

Let's say our candidate is a solid liberal Democrat in the mold of Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown. He is well-experienced, smart and has no traces of corruption.

He is liberal on all the issues of importance to us, but there is one hitch: he doesn't believe in Senate filibusters. His view is that the will of the majority should prevail after a thorough debate and period of deliberation. So he says that, for example, while he is against the Keystone pipeline, he will vote for cloture to cut off debate and then vote no on the actual bill. Or on a measure to repeal Obamacare, he'll vote yes on cloture but then no on the actual bill, all the while vociferously arguing against repeal. He says that were he a senator in 2006 when Samuel Alito was appointed to the USSC by George Bush, he would have voted for cloture, given a speech opposing his confirmation, and then voted no for the actual confirmation vote.

He simply will not do filibusters, no matter what the policy or who the president is. His view is there should be debate, deliberation, negotiation, amendments, but then finality, and the majority should rule.

Would you vote for this candidate?

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Would you vote for a hypothetical US Senate candidate like this: (Original Post) bluestateguy Jan 2015 OP
The problem I have with the "majority rule" part is that usually the majority in Congress djean111 Jan 2015 #1
sounds a little like Russ Feingold OKNancy Jan 2015 #2
Finegold was a little like that bluestateguy Jan 2015 #8
It would depend on who was running against him in the primary LuvNewcastle Jan 2015 #3
Considering the current system SheilaT Jan 2015 #4
Most likely bigwillq Jan 2015 #5
This hypothetical Senator is NOT supporting majority rule nakocal Jan 2015 #6
Nope. jschurchin Jan 2015 #7
I would not hold it against them. (nt) LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #9
I would not hold it against him SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #10
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. The problem I have with the "majority rule" part is that usually the majority in Congress
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jan 2015

is doing what they are paid/instructed to do by lobbyists and/or their respective party.
Majority rule should mean the will of the people who elected the politicians, and I don't believe that many of them give a rat's ass about what their constituents want, once they get elected. A little lip service around reelection/donation time, but that's it.
Good question - but I fear I am too cynical to really answer it. Not filibustering to delay something that one feels is very wrong - seems very wrong.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. Finegold was a little like that
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jan 2015

He wasn't who I specifically had in mind, but it embodies his approach to some degree.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
3. It would depend on who was running against him in the primary
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:13 PM
Jan 2015

and how they compared on the issues as well as personal characteristics. I wouldn't rule out your hypothetical candidate, but the filibuster issue is a serious one to consider.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. Considering the current system
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jan 2015

of fake filibusters means that every single piece of legislation needs 60 votes to pass, I think a simple majority would be a very good idea.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
5. Most likely
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:23 PM
Jan 2015

A lot of factors at play, but I would most likely not hold their filibuster views against them.

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nakocal

(552 posts)
6. This hypothetical Senator is NOT supporting majority rule
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jan 2015

The Democratic Senators represent millions more Americans than do the republican senators. Therefore, even though there are more republican senators, the majority of Americans voted democratic. That means he needs to support a filibuster against bills that will hurt the majority of Americans.

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