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Wed Jan 28, 2015, 02:34 PM

 

John Boehner Destroyed By Forbes In Scathing Smack Down – A Legacy Of Disgrace

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John Boehner Destroyed By Forbes In Scathing Smack Down – A Legacy Of Disgrace

The noted conservative website Forbes.com published a scathing indictment of Speaker John Boehner in the wake of the growing scandal surrounding his invitation to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu to speak before Congress.

The article, entitled Bibi Netanyahu — aka ‘The Republican Senator From Israel’ — May Have Made A Fatal Political Mistake offers an in-depth analysis of fallout in Israel over the controversy, predicting the Netanyahu may very well lose his long-standing control of Israel as a result of the fallout from his diplomatic FUBAR.


The article begins by accusing Speaker Boehner of attempting “to create two conflicting foreign policies for the United States—one pursued by the President and the other pursued by the Congress.”

After explaining concerns for Netanyahu at home and the possibility that “Netanyahu’s desire to interfere with American policy while seeking to bolster his re-election campaign, may turn out to be the very political screw-up that will allow the joint ticket forged by the Labor-Hatnuah political parties to bring an end to Netanyahu’s long reign atop the Israeli government,” the article goes on to consider Boehner’s actions.

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Reply John Boehner Destroyed By Forbes In Scathing Smack Down – A Legacy Of Disgrace (Original post)
Voice for Peace Jan 2015 OP
world wide wally Jan 2015 #1
Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #9
ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #30
Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #34
ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #36
Stallion Jan 2015 #2
hifiguy Jan 2015 #3
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #4
calimary Jan 2015 #5
kairos12 Jan 2015 #6
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #7
CanonRay Jan 2015 #8
qucumbbruce Jan 2015 #10
CanonRay Jan 2015 #12
Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #11
Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #13
Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #14
Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #15
Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #16
leftynyc Jan 2015 #22
Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #23
leftynyc Jan 2015 #24
Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #25
ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #38
leftynyc Jan 2015 #44
ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #49
Madmiddle Jan 2015 #17
leftynyc Jan 2015 #21
ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #31
leftynyc Jan 2015 #33
ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #35
leftynyc Jan 2015 #37
ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #39
leftynyc Jan 2015 #41
DearAbby Jan 2015 #46
leftynyc Jan 2015 #47
Bette R. Daize Jan 2015 #18
Indykatie Jan 2015 #19
Voice for Peace Jan 2015 #28
FBaggins Jan 2015 #48
leftynyc Jan 2015 #20
Hekate Jan 2015 #26
underpants Jan 2015 #27
cwydro Jan 2015 #29
kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #32
MineralMan Jan 2015 #40
leftynyc Jan 2015 #42
MineralMan Jan 2015 #43
leftynyc Jan 2015 #45

Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 03:41 PM

1. It's nice to think that someone as entrenched as Netanyahu can be defeated in Israel.

Now if we could only get rid of Boehner

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 05:13 PM

9. he will have a stroke one of these days.

 

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:02 PM

30. caused by whom, or what, I wonder.

Even the Mossad, despite their "supposed" backtracking, has to be viewing this NitWitYahoo as a danger to the security of Israel.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:48 PM

34. caused by alcohol, I think.

 

edit I'm referring to beaner having a stroke.
net'nyahoo appears healthier.
But you can read Boehner's health in his face.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:00 PM

36. Got it.

I don't envy Boehner's current mess, but he did dig his own 6 foot deep residence.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 03:56 PM

2. I've Been Wondering About Possible Israeli Back-Lash

nm

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 03:58 PM

3. It would be wonderful to see both of these brass-plated assholes

 

go down in flames.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 04:01 PM

4. brass-plated assholes

Time for a good smelting!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 04:41 PM

5. boner better be careful of that brass-plated assholes thing.

His skin is already compromised in its orange-ness. Wonder if he knows brass can turn your skin green?

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Response to calimary (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 04:49 PM

6. His skin tone has almost ruined oranges for me.

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Response to calimary (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 04:53 PM

7. LoL!

The Orange Drunk. god, how I want his corruption revealed for all to see. Then wipe the floor with him.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 04:59 PM

8. This is all due to the complete lack of respect the GOP has shown this President

throughout his administration, from day 1. They have tried everything to de-legitimize him, leading to this fiasco.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 05:17 PM

10. Agreed.

Yes. That was their mission and, by God, how well they have stuck to it! They are dismantling their own ship, in heavy seas, and they're goin' down!

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Response to qucumbbruce (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 05:21 PM

12. Welcome to DU

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 05:19 PM

11. It's just too much fun watching President Obama lately

 

and I'm looking forward to his after-office years.

Think he'll retire and take up painting?
Sell out to Wall Street and become a rich guy who gives speeches?
Keep on with OFA and similar efforts, inspire community activism
in the communities? https://www.barackobama.com/

My bet is on the latter. I don't think this was just for his
years in office. I think he may be a huge force after leaving
office.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 05:33 PM

13. How come "the most busted name in news" is clueless about this growing scandal?

The Israeli media is all over the story even as the media in America seems to have been stunned into silence.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 06:36 PM

14. well there was this....

 



But I suspect Fox will rally.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 06:38 PM

15. No offence, please refrain from posting any video from Fox in any response.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 06:40 PM

16. I think that's an unreasonable request.

 

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:49 AM

22. YOU specifically asked why

 

"the most trusted name in news" isn't reporting the story and then you whine when proof is given they are? Maybe you should make up your mind.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:52 AM

23. Things that make you go "hmmmmm". And...what?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:56 AM

24. Asked for proof

 

Got the proof you asked for and then whine about it? Is it really so hard to just admit you fucked up?

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:59 AM

25. When did Fox buy CNN? Link? One video is......."proof"? Link?

Good stuff, funny stuff.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:01 PM

38. Left has a few issues today. Just ignore for a bit

Perhaps the meds will wear off.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:19 PM

44. Excuse me

 

But I schooled both of you quite nicely. One demands evidence and when it's shown asks for it not to be shown (anyone who can decipher that is welcome to explain) and you were asked a simple question and can't answer it and attack me instead. And you think I'm the one who needs a time out? Whatev.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #44)

Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:05 PM

49. LOL

Amazing how easily some show their foolishness on the tubes.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:02 AM

17. A treasonous asshole

 

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Response to Madmiddle (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:46 AM

21. Stop with the bullshit

 

Treason has a very specific definition - giving aid and comfort to an enemy - as much as you may find it distasteful, Israel happens to be an ally so throwing around words like treason is foolish.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:03 PM

31. Not quite. They CLAIM to be an ally.

Often, they do not act like it.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:41 PM

33. And as I pointed out

 

Your feelings about this are completely irrelevant. Nobody in our government agrees with you.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:58 PM

35. Wow. I am IMPRESSED! You know everyone in government!

I want to be like you when I grow up.

NOT.

What an asinine claim.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:01 PM

37. Do feel free to point

 

to any comment, column or anything else that any elected official (let's stick with the feds as they are the ones who deal with foreign policy matters - a nobody mayor from bumfuck iowa is also completely irrelevant) that disproves what I said. I'll wait.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #37)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:02 PM

39. Just go away. You are being foolish

and making impossible claims, then striking out without cause.

It seems as though you need a rest, away from the intertubes. Take it.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:15 PM

41. Because I'm recognizing reality

 

That there isn't one elected official that will tell Israel to go screw in public and wont hide behind "anonymous sources"? That makes me foolish? You seem to think these brave souls exist - I merely want to know where they are and what are their names. If that makes me foolish - I'll wear that badge with honor.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:21 PM

46. Just when do allies, come to the PEOPLES HOUSE

to trash talk the President of the Unites States? Did Bibi cough up enough cash to pay the Speaker of the House, checks in the mail Mr Speaker. it's citizen's united going global.

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Response to DearAbby (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:22 PM

47. Are you saying

 

that bibi represents the WHOLE of Israel? Is that how you felt when we went to Iraq? That every single American was responsible?

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:31 AM

18. There's Something Even More Telling in This Article

 

In the full Ungar article that I read a couple of days ago on Forbes.com, I thought the most interesting points were the following:

“…the plan to have the Israeli Prime Minister speak to Congress, without first discussing with the White House, was the brainchild of Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer who has, for weeks now, been endorsing the re-election of Bibi Netanyahu on American television programs despite explicit Israeli Civil Service regulations prohibiting him from doing so.”


Consider the quotes from countless other articles on the subject (and here in particular, an article By Julie Hirschfeld Davis which appeared in the NYT on 1/28/15):

"In a telephone interview late Wednesday, Mr. Dermer said, “I have no regrets whatsoever that I have acted in a way to advance my country’s interests.” He said he never meant to slight the White House by keeping the confidence of the House speaker, who had suggested the invitation. He said he left it to Mr. Boehner to notify Mr. Obama’s team."


SO, although it was reported this scheme was the "brainchild" of Dermer, most other articles, including the NYT article, mislead the readers by stating Boehner initiated the invitation.

What a snake this Dermer guy is. According to the Forbes article, he was the one poking at the bee's nest and who is now all too happy to let Boehner take the stings by making us think this was all the Orange Dude's idea.

This statement from the 1/28/15 NYT article nails it, “He’s (Dermer's) a political operative, he’s not really an ambassador,” said Daniel C. Kurtzer, a former United States ambassador to Israel."

***That in itself is bad enough, but on the other hand, the Orange Dude can't do anything but sit there and take it, since to admit he took the bait from Dermer would prove once and for all what a tool he is for the Zionists and therefore a clear and present danger to U.S. security. This is the huge point that we must take note of and deal with from this whole incident.***

There is no question in my mind that Dermer should be declared “persona non grata” and removed from this country pronto. In addition, Boehner should step down immediately as his is clearly unfit and a threat to U.S. diplomacy and security.

This subterfuge should be headline news. The citizens of this country need to take notice of the entities who are pulling the strings in our government and the names of everyone who are their puppets, both willing and unwilling (you know, compromised politicians). Time to clean up the cesspool and take control of our own government again.



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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:36 AM

19. This is Not a "Forbes OP Ed" but from a Self Identified "Left" Pundit - Great Indictment Though

Unfortunately most on the right continue to mute their criticism of this fiasco.

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Response to Indykatie (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:00 PM

28. Here is the Forbes article

 

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

[font size="3"]Bibi Netanyahu -- aka 'The Republican Senator From Israel' -- May Have Made A Fatal Political Mistake[/font]

Set aside, for the moment, the diplomatic row being sparked by Speaker of the House John Boehner as he seeks to create two conflicting foreign policies for the United States—one pursued by the President and the other pursued by the Congress.

Boehner’s hubris, in conjunction with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s desire to interfere with American policy while seeking to bolster his re-election campaign, may turn out to be the very political screw-up that will allow the joint ticket forged by the Labor-Hatnuah political parties to bring an end to Netanyahu’s long reign atop the Israeli government.

(the rest at link)

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:28 PM

48. As Indykatie pointed out... that't not a Forbes piece

Their website allows blogers to set up their own pages.

This is Rick Ungar's page... not an examples of Forbes "destroying" Boehner.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:44 AM

20. I hope this buries Bibi in the elections

 

The Israeli's I know are so grateful for American support and find bibi's constant sniping at this President embarrassing.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:17 PM

26. 100th Rec, thank you very much

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:54 PM

27. Hilarious

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:16 PM

29. kick

and recced

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:16 PM

32. To Boehner: My late card-playing grandmother used to tell us when we were behind in a game

 

to play for the f**k-up! Sure enough the opposition would f**k by being over confident and eager to win.

Well, it looks like the President is just playing his hand waiting for the next f**k-up.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:04 PM

40. My prediction is that Netanyahu will not address Congress.

That's my prediction. They've already pushed it back a month. He's not going to be doing that, I think.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:16 PM

42. I agree

 

More trouble than it's worth and there is plenty going on in Israel that he can point to and say it's not a good time to leave.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:18 PM

43. Also, there will be plenty of State Department pressure

to keep this from happening. I believe that will prevail over Boehner's insolence.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:20 PM

45. I honestly don't think the State

 

Department will need to do a thing. He's getting heat from his own citizens about his behavior.

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