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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 08:51 PM Jan 2015

The 5 mansions of the billionaire who wants America to live a 'smaller' existence

https://homes.yahoo.com/news/own-five-mansions-guy-wants-150056064.html

Jeff Greene is a billionaire who made most of his fortune shorting subprime mortgages ahead of the last recession. Greene took a private jet to this year's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, along with his wife, children and two nannies, and then told Bloomberg that "America's lifestyle expectations are far too high and need to be adjusted so we have less things and a smaller, better existence. We need to reinvent our whole system of life."

Green (sic) owns a $195-million palace in Beverly Hills with 23 bathrooms and a rotating dance floor, two other Los Angeles mansions, a mansion in Palm Beach, a mansion in the Hamptons, and a 145-foot party yacht called Summerwind that once severely damaged a protected coral reef off Belize. Here's a look:.

Greene paid $35 million for Beverly Hills's Palazzo di Amore in 2007, when it was still only partly built. He finished the job and today the property has a 35,000-square-foot main house with 12 bedrooms, a 3,000-bottle wine cellar and tasting room, a separate 10,000-bottle cellar, a kitchen with walk-in fridge, a staff wing, and a Turkish spa; a 15,000-square-foot entertainment center with bowling alley, 50-seat theater, "a dressing room for live stage shows," and a disco/ballroom with "state-of-the-art laser light system and revolving dance floor"; a vineyard that produces 400 to 500 cases a year; a total of 23 bathrooms; a quarter-mile driveway; and the aforementioned rotating dance floor. He put it up for sale last fall for $195 million, the most expensive home on the market in America by far....

In 2009, Greene decided to leave California (possibly for tax purposes) and move back to Palm Beach, Florida, where he grew up. He paid $24 million for La Bellucia, a 1920 estate with a nine-bedroom, 12,000-square-foot main house designed by Addison Mizner and 234 feet of oceanfront. During an extensive renovation of the house, he shacked up with his family in six suites at his own Omphoy Ocean Resort hotel, where he reportedly converted a banquet-equipment storage room into "a playroom with a photo booth, juke box and movie theater" and a meditation garden into a playground for his children.




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The 5 mansions of the billionaire who wants America to live a 'smaller' existence (Original Post) KamaAina Jan 2015 OP
The most incredible part of this story Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #1
You mean the 'lack of empathy'? It's common, has to be as part of the obliviousness, indifference, appalachiablue Jan 2015 #21
There is definitely a lack of empathy, Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #36
I get what you mean by the hypocrisy. But unfortunately I've seen and heard this kind of thing on appalachiablue Jan 2015 #45
warped Locrian Jan 2015 #59
And if he was running for some political office, about half of the working stiffs would world wide wally Jan 2015 #67
Believe it or not, he's a Dem! KamaAina Jan 2015 #83
Or, maybe just an opportunist: Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #90
This guy isn't just missing perspective and self-reflection ... nikto Jan 2015 #37
It will all be rubble after the revolution Auggie Jan 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jan 2015 #18
Where's my knitting... starroute Jan 2015 #19
DUZY...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #50
Doubtful. linuxman Jan 2015 #35
most disgusting part... Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #3
I sure wasn't expecting that. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #17
Don't remind me...Biden insisted on recruiting people like that Ken Burch Jan 2015 #26
+1 Depaysement Jan 2015 #32
Greene-McCulloch 2016! motto: "What other choice do you have?" MisterP Jan 2015 #42
This guy is just begging for us to go all French Revolution on his ass isn't he. JeffHead Jan 2015 #4
I think we know whose house we will be occupying during the revolution. Initech Jan 2015 #9
Great... JeffHead Jan 2015 #13
Not the house so close to the beach. PADemD Jan 2015 #58
We don't need to actually behead him. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #27
Ooh, I like this idea almost as much hifiguy Jan 2015 #80
Can I be "the people"? Pretty please?? Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #89
Re: Guillotines nikto Jan 2015 #38
Don't forget John McCain and his nine houses. Wellstone ruled Jan 2015 #5
except i don't think mccain's said anything this stupid and hypocritical yet about his wealth. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #6
But that's mostly from his wife's family, the father at Anh. Busch I think. It's a proud appalachiablue Jan 2015 #24
"made his fortune shorting subprime mortgages" = now there's a guy who deserves it! ND-Dem Jan 2015 #7
Holy crap - is that a real life Wayne Manor? Initech Jan 2015 #8
Everybody else needs to do with less so this asshole can have more? MohRokTah Jan 2015 #10
that's about it. same as the last 40 years, why the big surprise? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #12
At least the assholes for the past 40 years tried to keep it all quiet. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #14
+10 ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #15
Everybody who is austensibly middle class should own a pitchfork. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #16
or a gillotine 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #20
I do not remember Ike being inordinately wealthy. He was certainly well off, but not KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #30
FDR for sure 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #44
I don't have one. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #52
You rediscovered the magic of the punji stake. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #60
Exactly! ctsnowman Jan 2015 #55
Good people like Paul Wellstone die and assholes like this still walk the earth. progressoid Jan 2015 #11
I need a double, with a side. When I come to, the F&Fs will receive an email blitz of this & appalachiablue Jan 2015 #25
Hmmmm oldandhappy Jan 2015 #22
Revolution is the festival of the oppressed. Alkene Jan 2015 #23
Those who ignore history... 47of74 Jan 2015 #39
Hold up -- I think he's talking about himself, and the other one percent. byronius Jan 2015 #28
I think he means "we" as an American. kcr Jan 2015 #62
HA! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #63
The Key to the Bastille is displayed in the Center Hall of Mount Vernon, George Washington's Va. appalachiablue Jan 2015 #29
Interesting treestar Jan 2015 #70
The Bastille Key weighs about 3lbs. and is dark iron. It's displayed on a wall, in a glass, appalachiablue Jan 2015 #75
I despise hypocrites. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #33
I originally posted Simon & Garfunkel's "Richard Cory" but then KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #34
Seen "Tiny House Hunters" on HGTV? SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2015 #40
Did someone say "guillotine"? ashling Jan 2015 #41
Good one. See you at the Palace! appalachiablue Jan 2015 #46
does he have any sinister, ambitious cousins to lead us? MisterP Jan 2015 #73
Most anyone at that level of business might have Orleanists around, you never know- appalachiablue Jan 2015 #85
"Backatcha Jeff Greene "America's lifestyle expectations are far too high and need to be adjusted Cha Jan 2015 #43
Seems someone let the 800 lb. gorilla that's been around 40 years out of the bag. appalachiablue Jan 2015 #47
I know I'm punchy from writing all day but dayum Tsiyu Jan 2015 #48
Shhhhh, Jeff. The blade is heavy, and you won't feel a thing. Kennah Jan 2015 #49
He's going to end up like this guy, who was once the richest man in the world: Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #51
The great shortening is coming. hobbit709 Jan 2015 #53
America needs to foreclose on him. Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #54
Nah, don't "eat the rich". Eat their children. DinahMoeHum Jan 2015 #56
Nah. Sell the families of assholes like this hifiguy Jan 2015 #81
Touche! DinahMoeHum Jan 2015 #82
Why not have both? Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2015 #84
I want to pitch a reality show in which nilesobek Jan 2015 #57
Or he has a minimum wage job QED Jan 2015 #61
+ a billion! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #65
none of them would volunteer for it treestar Jan 2015 #71
decided to leave California (possibly for tax purposes) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #64
I think all you liberals are just sour graping it packman Jan 2015 #66
Greedy, heartless bastard. nt wolfie001 Jan 2015 #68
He means us as a country silly, not him personally! treestar Jan 2015 #69
Five mansions, three children...he's virtually a Shaker! Tom Ripley Jan 2015 #72
I'm sorry, but unless you're a hotel you don't need 23 bathrooms. Vinca Jan 2015 #74
Images won't load for me. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2015 #76
Fuck these greedy, hypocritical assholes! City Lights Jan 2015 #77
Physician, heal thyself. rocktivity Jan 2015 #78
This worthless piece of shit should be hifiguy Jan 2015 #79
Why doesn't he just trade in his 5 homes for a medieval castle with ramparts, a moat aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2015 #86
If nothing else, I can see why he needs so many bathrooms. nt Buns_of_Fire Jan 2015 #87
So many are so greedy & corrupt, they manipulate or outright violate the regulations JonLP24 Jan 2015 #88

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. The most incredible part of this story
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 08:55 PM
Jan 2015

is that this asshat does not see how stupid he is. He really would not understand why anyone would think he was a hypocrite.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
21. You mean the 'lack of empathy'? It's common, has to be as part of the obliviousness, indifference,
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jan 2015

denial and/or sociopathy to behave and live this way. Unbelievable.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
36. There is definitely a lack of empathy,
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:25 PM
Jan 2015

but the hypocrisy comes from his comments that we should learn to live with less. He who has much more than his share and doesn't seem to be paring down himself.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
45. I get what you mean by the hypocrisy. But unfortunately I've seen and heard this kind of thing on
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:49 AM
Jan 2015

all levels and from people who I wouldn't deem psychologically impaired as in narcissist, sociopath, etc. And that's very concerning. My uncle reamed out and told his wife she had to watch it over a $40 grocery bill once in the '70s, while he had an expensive boat for deep sea fishing, collected all kinds memorabilia, had many toys and more. And the man was worth hundreds of thousands then at least. So that's greed, selfishness, fear, hypocrisy, whatever.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
59. warped
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jan 2015

I don't know - it's like they don't have a concept of value/worth. I guess when you make billions for doing practically nothing you don't know what *anything* is worth. So they can justify in their minds paying a measly 100 million for a luxury house, but $50 for food its highway robbery.

Truly astounding.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
67. And if he was running for some political office, about half of the working stiffs would
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jan 2015

vote for him....because all he would say is "yes guns, yes tax breaks, no abortions.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
90. Or, maybe just an opportunist:
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jan 2015
"Greene lived in Southern California in the 1980s and 90s and ran in the 1982 Republican primary for the 23rd Congressional District race."
 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
37. This guy isn't just missing perspective and self-reflection ...
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:27 PM
Jan 2015

He seems to be missing half a frontal lobe.




So these are our esteemed Oligarchs?


Puh-leeeeeeze.

Response to Auggie (Reply #2)

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
3. most disgusting part...
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jan 2015
He is a member of the Democratic Party and was a candidate in the 2010 Senate election primaries in Florida.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Greene

The party is top heavy with these billionaires with a "social" consciousness. They are the reason the democrats often ignore the issues that matter to working people.
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
26. Don't remind me...Biden insisted on recruiting people like that
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:32 PM
Jan 2015

When he was running the DSCC. They virtually ALWAYS lost to the 'pugs in the fall. Yet he kept recruiting them, knowing how unelectable they were.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
42. Greene-McCulloch 2016! motto: "What other choice do you have?"
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:11 AM
Jan 2015

and his money's all from betting that McMansions were being overvalued--who couldn't see that coming?!

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
4. This guy is just begging for us to go all French Revolution on his ass isn't he.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jan 2015

Break out the guillotines.

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
13. Great...
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jan 2015

I have a big pile of dirty undies just waiting to be cleansed in that pretty cement pond of his.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
58. Not the house so close to the beach.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jan 2015

When the oceans start rising, that house will be under water.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
27. We don't need to actually behead him.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jan 2015

Just get a righteous set of hackers to transfer his assets to the people.

For someone like him, that would be WORSE than decapitation.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
38. Re: Guillotines
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jan 2015

Don't sharpen 'em too much.



Nothing wrong with an occasional, "double-drop".

Could be a real crowd-pleaser.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
24. But that's mostly from his wife's family, the father at Anh. Busch I think. It's a proud
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:25 PM
Jan 2015

tradition in the McCain family, the men marry up, heiresses like his father who married the twin daughter of a western oil man. (John's no fool, or Kerry for that matter even though he had means of his own I believe).
Whatever-

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
7. "made his fortune shorting subprime mortgages" = now there's a guy who deserves it!
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jan 2015

"austerity for thee, but not for me"

Oh, he signed Bill Gates' "Giving Pledge". Hmm. I guess we know what they're going to give us.



In February 2011 Greene became a signatory of The Giving Pledge.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Greene

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
14. At least the assholes for the past 40 years tried to keep it all quiet.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jan 2015

Now the assholes are blatantly bragging about being aristocracy.

I have a pitchfork in my garden section of the garage.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. Everybody who is austensibly middle class should own a pitchfork.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jan 2015

I use it for my compost pile. Accidentally jabbed my foot with a tine once. The infection was horrid.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
20. or a gillotine
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:13 PM
Jan 2015

I relate to --> "At least the[se] assholes for the past 40 years tried to keep it all quiet."

Noteworthy, how these present-day usurpers of democracy are so quick to show their asses. ,

I'm old enough to remember Ike and JFK, who had a sufficient sense of humanity & decorum as
to not goat publicly about their vast wealth & privileged status, but rather to rightly apologize for it.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
30. I do not remember Ike being inordinately wealthy. He was certainly well off, but not
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:43 PM
Jan 2015

obscenely so. Could you perhaps be thinking instead of FDR, who came from wealth but turned traitor to the wealthy class (thank God)?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
44. FDR for sure
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:26 AM
Jan 2015

Thanks for the addition.

Ike was so very well connected with the wealthy & elite class, war hero and all;
so I don't think it was far off.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
52. I don't have one.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:01 AM
Jan 2015

But I've got the sorta similarly-shaped potato-digging fork. Rather than being round with needle-sharp ends, the tines are flattened rectangles with a duller triangular point, so they're less likely to damage the potatoes as you turn the ground, and, as an added bonus, you'd really have to put a lot of force behind it to pierce a shoe and a foot with it.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
25. I need a double, with a side. When I come to, the F&Fs will receive an email blitz of this &
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:28 PM
Jan 2015

print versions go out in the mail tomorrow.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
22. Hmmmm
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:23 PM
Jan 2015

Yep. The old 'them not me' thing. You are to live a more simple life and be less demanding. I am OK the way I am.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
39. Those who ignore history...
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jan 2015

....aw fuck it, these rich people never pay attention no matter what others say.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
28. Hold up -- I think he's talking about himself, and the other one percent.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:37 PM
Jan 2015

"America's lifestyle expectations are far too high and need to be adjusted so we have less things and a smaller, better existence. We need to reinvent our whole system of life."

"We", see? He's a Leveller, calling for equitable distribution, especially of ill-gotten gains. That's what it reads like to me.

He's offering to start the reinvention with his own lifestyle expectations. Efficiency apartment, public transit -- because we're all in this together.

How am I reading this wrong? It's great!

kcr

(15,315 posts)
62. I think he means "we" as an American.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jan 2015

He doesn't say 1 percenter lifestyle. He says "America's lifestyle". It isn't great, because the middle class is already shrinking as it is and too many are cutting everything to the bone. Why should Americans cut even further while he and his kind still enjoy the lifestyle they do. It's especially galling considering that lifestyle is possible on the backs of all those Americans.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
29. The Key to the Bastille is displayed in the Center Hall of Mount Vernon, George Washington's Va.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jan 2015

home. In 1790 Lafayette sent it to the President from the Revolution in France via Thomas Paine in London and John Rutledge of South Carolina.

The Bastille Prison in Paris was the symbol of the Ancien Regime, the royal authority and power of the monarchy. When the Revolutionaries attacked the old fortress there were only a few prisoners inside.

The young Marquis de Lafayette assisted the American Revolution and was fond of General Washington with whom he served. Lafayette named a son after the first American President and sent him to school in the USA. In 1824 Lafayette returned to America, making a wide tour of major cities and homes that hosted the celebrated Frenchman.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
70. Interesting
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jan 2015

I have been to Mount Vernon, but somehow missed that. Must have been because I was accompanied by two kids!

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
75. The Bastille Key weighs about 3lbs. and is dark iron. It's displayed on a wall, in a glass,
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 06:37 PM
Jan 2015

lantern style case. I don't think there's a label for it, so not so hard to miss. GW was pleased to have it and exhibited it in Phila. when the early govt. met there. The Mount Vernon shop sells a couple reproductions online in gold or black for $10. If I don't find mine soon I'll get one there next time I visit, and have a closer look at the original. In 1989 my sister brought me a 1789 Anniv. shirt from Paris; she was unable to get both of us the popular guillotine earrings that sold out that summer. She has great taste, I know they would have been nice.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
31. I despise hypocrites.
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 10:46 PM
Jan 2015

The "do as I say, not as I do" philosophy disgusts me as much as anything. If he will downsize to a 1500 square foot house, give away his wealth to charity, get a blue-collar job, and live on $25,000 a year, I will be willing to listen to what he has to say about "living smaller."

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
40. Seen "Tiny House Hunters" on HGTV?
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jan 2015

I thought about Green and his ilk when these programs turned up. They promote Americam lifestyle choices.

http://www.hgtv.com/shows/tiny-house-hunters

Cha

(297,154 posts)
43. "Backatcha Jeff Greene "America's lifestyle expectations are far too high and need to be adjusted
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:12 AM
Jan 2015
we have less things and a smaller, better existence."

Tone it down and then you can talk to America about your little problem with it.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
48. I know I'm punchy from writing all day but dayum
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 02:11 AM
Jan 2015

after taking a look at those pictures, reading the descriptions and then juxtaposing them with his words, I started belly laughing so hard at the absurdity of this man.

For real, Dude? Lowered expectations? You've got a disco and a vineyard and a bowling alley in one of your five estates and you're asking me to cut where? Stop paying the light bill? Only eat five days a week instead of seven? Give away my beloved pets? Sell my kidneys? Is it too high of an expectation to not want to sell my kidneys to keep a very, very humble and leaky roof over my head?

Greene, are you even human?

I hope if we reinstate the guillotine, he goes first. They can have jumbotrons on either side showing dude's mansions and blasting his words for all to hear. The whole crowd will be laughing as hard as I am at this blatant, crass HOG.




 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
51. He's going to end up like this guy, who was once the richest man in the world:
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 03:27 AM
Jan 2015
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=521

I told my husband when we were dating, "sic transit gloria mundi" and said "I am going to show you something". I explained that "sic transit gloria mundi" means "Thus passes the glory of the world". And I led him up to this man's grave, the one time richest man in the world. He looked down at the name (as seen in the photo at the link) and knew exactly who he was.

This was before they put a fence around the plot, because so many people were visiting it.

Just as we all are going to end up.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
81. Nah. Sell the families of assholes like this
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jan 2015

into slavery in Dubai. Then they will have something to fucking cry about.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
57. I want to pitch a reality show in which
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jan 2015

billionaires like Greene are tossed into the street with no money, no cellphone, no friends to call, no church to help them out. Drop them off downtown at the Port Authority in NYC or the bus station in St. Louis. Keep the cameras rolling as we watch those homeless, "paragons of the business community," work their magic. The cream will rise to the top as we well know, pretty soon they will be ruling their own homeless empire, just like they did in business. Somehow winners are just winners...

QED

(2,747 posts)
61. Or he has a minimum wage job
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jan 2015

with irregular hours, no health insurance or sick leave, and a boss from hell.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
71. none of them would volunteer for it
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jan 2015

because they know it's just not true

my jerk uncle often claims that if all wealth were redistributed evenly, in one year it would be back where it was (because of course he and the others would make the "good choices' that would allow them to get it back from everyone else).

Omaha Steve

(99,593 posts)
64. decided to leave California (possibly for tax purposes)
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jan 2015

Donate the $195-million palace in Beverly Hills with 23 bathrooms to a non-profit homeless shelter group for a write off.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
66. I think all you liberals are just sour graping it
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:15 PM
Jan 2015

think of the "trickle down" effect here - untold number of gardeners, maintenance people, house staff, taxes he pays which keep shelters open. Why the man is a modern day Christ in his concern for the poor. After all, those houses just didn't build themselves. I think its great that those houses are now occupied than just sitting there deserted and empty.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
79. This worthless piece of shit should be
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:23 PM
Jan 2015

marched to the goddam guillotine TOMORROW. Sooner if possible.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
86. Why doesn't he just trade in his 5 homes for a medieval castle with ramparts, a moat
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jan 2015

and vast farmlands all around it occupied by his serfs?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
88. So many are so greedy & corrupt, they manipulate or outright violate the regulations
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jan 2015

(specifically the oil industries)

push things like how many poor people own a TV or a refrigerators and constantly point out food stamp & welfare recipients "gaming the system"

I'm always reminded of that study that was posted her where the wealthy cheated more for that extra $100 than lower income people did even though that $100 represents a significant change in lifestyle options for the poor person. A lot of people don't think they think like that because they apply their own "What's another $100 when you have a million?" much less billionaires but it is very clear there isn't enough money in the world to satisfy a lot of these guys.

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