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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:09 PM Jan 2015

Is John Boehner a Traitor?

[link:http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2015/01/john-boehner-traitor|
http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2015/01/john-boehner-traitor]

Is John Boehner a Traitor?

On Wednesday, the Speaker of the House confirmed that he had invited Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to come speak to Congress, “on the grave threats radical Islam and Iran pose to our security and way of life.”

The announcement just so happens to come as Republicans in Congress are pushing for new sanctions against Iran, which threaten current diplomatic negotiations with that country.

As of now, Netanyahu is expected to speak to a joint session of Congress in March, while he’s in the U.S. for the annual AIPAC conference. So, why is Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu such a big deal?

First off, it’s a HUGE violation of protocol and MASSIVELY disrespectful to President Obama and


NOw that you mention it. How about Reagan and HW Bush for the Iran Hostage Crisis?
TO late to prosecute Nixon

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Is John Boehner a Traitor? (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 OP
Nixon and Reagan absolutely committed treason, without a doubt... NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #1
Damn! Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #2
You've made it quite clear you have no idea what treason is. DesMoinesDem Jan 2015 #3
Yeah, you betcha...gonna explain why Nixon and Reagan are innocent? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #5
What ????? Clarify instantly NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #6
Why won't you explain why you are innocent? DesMoinesDem Jan 2015 #8
Hurry up MIRT, I dont take kindly to being accused of rape and murder on the internet NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #10
results Go Vols Jan 2015 #20
You are correct. hifiguy Jan 2015 #7
Thanks, and Reagan had a deal arranged before his election, yet to be proven beyond a NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #9
Pelosi met with Assad against Bush's wishes oberliner Jan 2015 #11
Nancy didn't invite Assad to address the house though did she madokie Jan 2015 #13
Not the first time today, there is a strong anti Democratic party attitude around NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #15
No doubt madokie Jan 2015 #17
You noticed it too...good NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #21
Only the deaf and blind couldn't notice that madokie Jan 2015 #26
It has nothing to do with anti-Democratic party attitude. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #23
Bullshit NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #25
No, really; it's true. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #29
Really? NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #36
So, if it were a Dem Speaker in Boehner's place you would want them tried for treason? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #38
She led a Congressional visit to Syria when asked explicitly not to do so by the POTUS oberliner Jan 2015 #16
How does that make it any different? Congress is a co-equal branch of government Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #18
Visiting someone and inviting them to address either the house or the senate is not the same thing madokie Jan 2015 #24
Do you think Pelosi and her delegation were just having tea and sconces? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #35
I didn't say anything about treason madokie Jan 2015 #39
Ah. Well the OP is about this rising to the level of treason and declining to accept Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #41
Run with it madokie Jan 2015 #42
John Boehner is a DRUNK ass madokie Jan 2015 #12
Captain Bourbonator! hifiguy Jan 2015 #14
spot on madokie Jan 2015 #19
And likable fadedrose Jan 2015 #34
Maybe to other drunks madokie Jan 2015 #37
And Netanyahu is a supreme a hole to accept an invite like that brush Jan 2015 #47
Yes to all you said madokie Jan 2015 #48
Not so much a tomater as he is an orange. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2015 #22
No, he can invite whoever he likes to address Congress. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #27
Which government? fadedrose Jan 2015 #33
Treason? No. Inconsiderate of the Administration's madville Jan 2015 #28
yup La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #32
no, this trend of calling people traitors because you don't like them or their political agendas La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #30
+1 tammywammy Jan 2015 #43
I like to call it the "Over-the-Top Liberal Act" arcane1 Jan 2015 #44
No, he's not a traitor fadedrose Jan 2015 #31
I think you need a dictionary n/t sharp_stick Jan 2015 #40
Well, it will be interesting madamesilverspurs Jan 2015 #45
He's a candy colored clown C_U_L8R Jan 2015 #46
Orange Judas Blue Owl Jan 2015 #49

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. Nixon and Reagan absolutely committed treason, without a doubt...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jan 2015

Since IKE the right in America has been the most corrupt, ugly, racist, thieving bunch of disgusting pig fucks.

And the teaparty has that condition on steroids.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
4. Yeah, you betcha...gonna explain why Nixon and Reagan are innocent?
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jan 2015

Man, the people around here that will work overtime to defend John Boehner and the GOP

astounding, really

Are we gonna see the same people defend Nixon and Reagan next?

Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #4)

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
20. results
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:29 PM
Jan 2015

On Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:20 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Right after you explain why you aren't guilty of raping and murdering a girl in 1990.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6124029

REASON FOR ALERT

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unbelievable, i am being accused of rape and murder

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Explanation: aren,t guilty,not accused of anything.

context is everything
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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. You are correct.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jan 2015

The "Chennault Incident" in which Nixon used Anna Chennault as a go between to convince South Vietnam's President Thieu to reject the peace-talks terms being offered by LBJ was nothing short of actionable treason. It undermined a significant foreign policy change made by a sitting POTUS. Nixon told Chennault to tell Thieu to reject the proposal because Thieu would be able to get "a better deal" if Nixon won the presidency.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
9. Thanks, and Reagan had a deal arranged before his election, yet to be proven beyond a
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jan 2015

shadow of a doubt but pretty much accepted by most people.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. Nancy didn't invite Assad to address the house though did she
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jan 2015

comparing apples to oranges always ruin a conversation

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
23. It has nothing to do with anti-Democratic party attitude.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jan 2015

It has to do with not resorting to bizarre hysteria over non-existent crime. This ridiculousness makes DU an internet laughingstock.

If a Democratic Congress was doing the exact same thing to a GOPer president the answers would be the same -- It's not treason.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
29. No, really; it's true.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:40 PM
Jan 2015

If a Democratic Congress invited a foreign leader to address Congress over the objections of a GOP president it would not be treason.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. She led a Congressional visit to Syria when asked explicitly not to do so by the POTUS
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jan 2015

Seems to at least be in the same ballpark.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
18. How does that make it any different? Congress is a co-equal branch of government
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:29 PM
Jan 2015

No President has any say over who does or does not appear before Congress.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. Visiting someone and inviting them to address either the house or the senate is not the same thing
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jan 2015

Not even to be discussed as if it is

Obama, best I remember, didn't ask them not to. its just standard procedure or has been up to now

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
35. Do you think Pelosi and her delegation were just having tea and sconces?
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:43 PM
Jan 2015
Obama, best I remember, didn't ask them not to. its just standard procedure or has been up to now

And somehow that is treason?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
39. I didn't say anything about treason
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jan 2015

I say that what he has done is wrong headed and he knows that
Fuck Boehner

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
41. Ah. Well the OP is about this rising to the level of treason and declining to accept
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jan 2015

that framing has been labeled an "anti democratic attitude." Since yu seemed to agree with that labeling I can be forgiven for assuming you agree with the predicate discussion of treason.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
42. Run with it
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jan 2015

I have no intention of continuing this discussion, its pointless at this point in time
Nothing personal here though and I hope you agree with that

madokie

(51,076 posts)
37. Maybe to other drunks
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jan 2015

not by me. I spent too many years as a drunk to go to liking them now that I'm sober

brush

(53,764 posts)
47. And Netanyahu is a supreme a hole to accept an invite like that
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jan 2015

It's an unprecedented, unheard of, intentional, behind the back, crap move designed to embarrass and snub the president.

No one but an arrogant ass of a head of state would do that to another head of state.

It's going to back fire on Boner and Netanyahu.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
27. No, he can invite whoever he likes to address Congress.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:35 PM
Jan 2015

Of course, if the two of them start plotting to overthrow the government, my answer would change.

madville

(7,408 posts)
28. Treason? No. Inconsiderate of the Administration's
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:38 PM
Jan 2015

Wishes? Sure. Not in line with past etiquette or protocol? Yes.



 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
30. no, this trend of calling people traitors because you don't like them or their political agendas
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jan 2015

is deeply disturbing.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
31. No, he's not a traitor
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jan 2015

He's doing the bidding of folks in the House who want to know more about why Netanyahu wants more sanctions against Iran. (I'm relieved that he only wants sanctions, he used to want to bomb them and a few other countries)...

I think that Boehner made an anonymous phone call to Obama and told him about it. And the President made an anonymous call to Boehner, and they cooked up a plot to more or less humiliate the PM of Israel, and are hoping that a new PM is elected who is more likable, less bossy, and has a lot less of other bad qualities this (idiot) PM has. My opinions only.

They've had some real statesmen as PM's in Israel. Maybe we'll get another one in the coming election.

Good job Boehner, you too Mr. President, my President. You guys work well together. Time to change parties, John.

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