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global1

(25,219 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:26 PM Jan 2015

Is It Possible The Weather Or Temp At The Game Had Something To Do With The Inflation Of The Balls?.

Like automobile tires - in cold weather they under inflate and in warm weather they over inflate. Is it possible the same thing happened to the footballs.

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Is It Possible The Weather Or Temp At The Game Had Something To Do With The Inflation Of The Balls?. (Original Post) global1 Jan 2015 OP
It was around 45 degrees, TheCowsCameHome Jan 2015 #1
Physics would demand consistency, no? WinkyDink Jan 2015 #2
So weather conditions were different on the other side of the field??? on point Jan 2015 #3
I'm responding to the OP's query about weather. What is your point---that each side had WinkyDink Jan 2015 #13
Look - I Learned Something Today - That Each Team Plays With Their Own Footballs... global1 Jan 2015 #7
I know that. I'm pointing out that the weather didn't do it. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #14
The home team use to... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #18
Each team could have inflated their own at different temps Major Nikon Jan 2015 #12
I'm responding to the OP's query about the weather, a natural phenomenon. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #15
11 of 12 balls on the Patriots side were at 10.5 PSI MohRokTah Jan 2015 #4
Yeah... science VScott Jan 2015 #5
If so why weren't the Colts footballs affected? onecaliberal Jan 2015 #6
Colts QB throws the ball deaniac21 Jan 2015 #8
That has zero to do with the cold affecting the ball pressure. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #10
More revolutions heats the air inside the ball deaniac21 Feb 2015 #24
Are all the balls made of the exact same materials? moondust Jan 2015 #9
The temp could cause about 1/2 psi drop Takket Jan 2015 #11
A quick calculation using the Ideal Gas Law ... chemenger Jan 2015 #19
In similar news, I heard that the Bruins are suspected of deflating their pucks. Orrex Jan 2015 #16
Friday morning madokie Jan 2015 #17
Maybe the fucking gauge was sorefeet Jan 2015 #20
Nope. It was this guy. randome Jan 2015 #21
Why don't they make it a rule to inflate them with nitrogen? Glassunion Jan 2015 #22
Quite. bemildred Jan 2015 #23

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
1. It was around 45 degrees,
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jan 2015

so I'd doubt it.

What happens when it's below zero in Green Bay? Do the balls flatten like pancakes?

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
13. I'm responding to the OP's query about weather. What is your point---that each side had
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jan 2015

different weather, or that I'm arguing such (which I clearly am not)?

global1

(25,219 posts)
7. Look - I Learned Something Today - That Each Team Plays With Their Own Footballs...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jan 2015

I'm thinking that there is something flawed with that. It seems to me that the NFL (the league) should be in charge of the footballs and one set of footballs should be used for the game. Both teams playing off of this same set of footballs seems to (no pun intended) even the playing field. No advantage to either team. You play with the ball that is on the field at the time and that's that.

How it came to be that the teams can use their own footballs and condition them before the game - seems flawed to me.

Current conditions provide a loophole for teams to take advantage of. It was an accident waiting to happen.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
18. The home team use to...
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jan 2015

...provide all the balls. In the mid 2000s a coalition of NFL QBs petitioned the league to let each team supply their own. It was passed. That coalition was supposedly led by Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
12. Each team could have inflated their own at different temps
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jan 2015

But I'm not sure reasonable temperatures would have affected them at the observed pressures.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. 11 of 12 balls on the Patriots side were at 10.5 PSI
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jan 2015

12 of 12 balls on the Colts side were at 13 PSI.

If weather was a factor, all balls should have been affected.

And then there's the fact that the NFL ruled out weather as a factor very early on.

deaniac21

(6,747 posts)
24. More revolutions heats the air inside the ball
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 06:56 PM
Feb 2015

and I can't believe anyone would think my post was serious.

moondust

(19,956 posts)
9. Are all the balls made of the exact same materials?
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jan 2015

Some materials could conceivably hold air better than other materials in changing temps.

I personally think the NFL is just asking for mischief by not supplying all the game balls and a couple of guys to maintain the balls under supervision of the refs.

chemenger

(1,593 posts)
19. A quick calculation using the Ideal Gas Law ...
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jan 2015

assuming the football's volume is constant and that it is filled to a pressure of 12.5 psi at room temperature (70 degrees F) shows that the ball's pressure drops to 10.5 psi (it loses about 2 psi) when the outdoor temperature drops to about 31 degrees F.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
17. Friday morning
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jan 2015

I went out and checked the air pressure in the left front tire on my pick'mup truck. It was 30 degrees out and the pressure was 33.75 PSI, later that day around 5 pm I checked the same tire with the same gauge and the pressure was 38.25 PSI. the temperature out was 58 degrees but had gotten up to 60 earlier. Mind you this is a much larger volume than a football has but nevertheless there was a 4 plus PSI difference between the pressure at the low temperature of the morning to the high temperature of the afternoon. I haven't done any research or experiments to see if volume has anything to do with this, I'm just putting this out there of what I found.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
20. Maybe the fucking gauge was
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jan 2015

faulty????? Do they calibrate them before every game???? Maybe one gauge for both teams would be an insurance policy. I don't really give a shit, I can't stand football.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
21. Nope. It was this guy.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 12:36 PM
Jan 2015

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Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
22. Why don't they make it a rule to inflate them with nitrogen?
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jan 2015

The temps would have far less of an impact on the expansion or contraction of the balls.

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