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Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:24 PM

George W. Bush-Discharge Papers - "Military Qualifications" = "NONE"

What’s clear, however, is that Bush’s superiors made it unusually easy for him to quit flying and leave Houston. They first attempted to sign him up for a postal unit in Alabama that met once a month. (The commander of the outfit told Bush he couldn’t guarantee that the group would even exist in three months but added, “We’re glad to have you!”) When Bush was informed that he couldn’t fulfill his duty by doing that, he sent a letter requesting “equivalent duty” with the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group, at Dannelly Air Base, in Montgomery. The unit commander, in official memos, said Bush could start by attending two drills in September 1972. He didn’t show up for the drills.

When Bush lost his flight status, in August 1972, the official military protocol of the Texas Air National Guard was to open an internal investigation and review why the pilot didn’t show up for his physical. It says so on Bush’s own documents. That never happened.

Bush’s go-to expert on his military record, Albert Lloyd, said a report wasn’t necessary because Bush’s commanders knew he had stopped flying to go to work in Alabama—proof only that the Air National Guard blew off the rules when it came to Bush.

more & links:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/25/1085393/-Dan-Rather-got-it-right-George-W-Bush-DID-go-AWOL
Here' is a pdf Link to the military's own records with a hat tip to Sura 109.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100209013920/http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/bush_records/personnel_pt5.pdf
MORE Docs:
http://www.glcq.com/docs/
http://www.glcq.com/docs/points_1973_summary_handwritten.pdf

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See where it says NONE in the qualifications box? what does someone in the military get paid for when he has NONE in his qualifications box?






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We don't need no steenkin' CBS documents.

The Pentagon has taken down george w. bush's military documents, but the Wayback Machine still has them. Just for starters, here's Part 5, page 6:

In accordance with paragraph 2-29m, AFM 35-13, failure to accomplish annual medical examination, 1st Lt (g)eorge (w). ush, (redacted), is suspended from flying status effective date 1 Aug 1972. Publish orders as directed in paragraph 2-28, AFM 35-13.
And in a monospaced font to boot.


http://wayback.archive.org/web/jsp/Interstitial.jsp?seconds=5&date=1267511108000&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dod.mil%2Fpubs%2Ffoi%2Fbush_records%2Fpersonnel_pt5.pdf&target=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100302062508%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.dod.mil%2Fpubs%2Ffoi%2Fbush_records%2Fpersonnel_pt5.pdf

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Reply George W. Bush-Discharge Papers - "Military Qualifications" = "NONE" (Original post)
kpete Apr 2012 OP
MrScorpio Apr 2012 #1
Initech Apr 2012 #4
hack89 Apr 2012 #18
gratuitous Apr 2012 #2
fascisthunter Apr 2012 #3
Siwsan Apr 2012 #5
Elwood P Dowd Apr 2012 #6
HubertHeaver Apr 2012 #11
Elwood P Dowd Apr 2012 #15
calimary Apr 2012 #7
JBoy Apr 2012 #12
calimary Apr 2012 #21
Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #8
Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #9
aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2012 #10
JBoy Apr 2012 #13
Mc Mike Apr 2012 #17
Gman Apr 2012 #14
underpants Apr 2012 #16
libtodeath Apr 2012 #19
hack89 Apr 2012 #20
former9thward Apr 2012 #22

Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:27 PM

1. He's a pilot without a pilot qualifications badge

Strange indeed

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:37 PM

4. He's also a good ol' Texas cowboy who went to Yale.

A genuine phony through and through - I swear he was only elected (if you can call that an election) to amplify all of Reagan's failed policies and make them worse for us but better for the upper 1%.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:30 AM

18. Box 22 lists his pilot qualification. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:32 PM

2. Paging the birthers

See anything here that might pique your all-consuming interest in long-ago events? Like, say, a six year obligation that's fully and honorably discharged after a little more than five years and four months? Or a person being discharged who isn't even around to sign his discharge papers?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:34 PM

3. so... the right wingers rallied around a fraud... figures

 

they like that BS John Wayne swagger, because they are just as phony.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:38 PM

5. He didn't have any legitimate Presidential qualifications, either

I'm surprised they found this much paperwork on him. Probably a favor to his daddy.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:50 PM

6. If I had pulled the shit Bush did, I would have spent time behind bars.

I was in the Army '70-72 and skipping out on duty as many times as he did would get you in some serious shit.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:40 PM

11. If you pulled the shit he pulled, you would

still be behind bars.

Notice his rank. This son-of-a-sitting-congressman and grandson-of-a-senator was promoted all the way to Lt in under five years! Just how much of a screw-up was he?


I personally knew 2 officers who received poor ER's, still made Captain but were not allowed to stay in the AF.

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Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:01 PM

15. Yes, he was basically given the rank as Lt after basic training -- no ROTC, no OTS, no nothing.

In 5 years he was still a Lt. Never knew any Lt that didn't make Capt after about 2-3 years.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:54 PM

7. Couldn't even make himself available to sign the frickin' form???????

What a NOTHING. A no-good, good-for-nothing, NOTHING.

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Response to calimary (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:42 PM

12. Sounds like "of no fixed address".

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Response to JBoy (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:31 PM

21. Shows you what the value of being a moving target can be.

Let's you beat the rap.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:58 PM

8. Thank God we're looking forward. n/t

 

K&R

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:21 PM

9. Take it up with your local draft board.

"You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant" ~ Arlo Gutherie

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:37 PM

10. Yes, but he went to the dentist

I remember how that one record of a teeth cleaning while in the Guard that supposedly proved he didn't go AWOL was trumpeted far and wide by the Republicans as something even superior to Kerry's Silver Star. There should have been an SNL skit showing the great GOP monkey in a dentist chair while Barber's Adagio For Strings (theme from movie Platoon) played in the background.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:43 PM

13. That had me ROFLing.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:19 AM

17. Double ++ good.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:44 PM

14. FR will scream it's a fraud

they'll compare type face and other ridiculous bullshit.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:19 PM

16. FRAUD - he took pay whole not doing the work

He couldn't muster a postal job??? I got one of those when I was "short" and it was the easy duty EVER for me....compared to being a Cav Scout that is.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:40 AM

19. Hope to live to see the day he is rotting in jail.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:40 AM

20. Look at box 22 - it shows his designation as a fighter pilot

you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. His flight logs were released to the public - we know he flew on active duty with the Guard from 1970 to 1972 and had over 300 hours in the F-102.

He was qualified to get paid - at least for those two years.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:49 PM

22. You are misreading the box.

That box is for shooting qualifications. Unless you are a MP most occupations in the Air Force and Air Guard would have 'none' in that box.

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