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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 05:15 PM Jan 2015

Huge Snowden story:British spy agency intercepted emails from journalists at NYT, WaPo, Reuters, BBC

GCHQ captured emails of journalists from top international media
• Snowden files reveal emails of BBC, NY Times and more
• Agency includes investigative journalists on ‘threat’ list
• Editors call on Cameron to act against snooping on media




GCHQ’s bulk surveillance of electronic communications has scooped up emails to and from journalists working for some of the US and UK’s largest media organisations, analysis of documents released by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.

Emails from the BBC, Reuters, the Guardian, the New York Times, Le Monde, the Sun, NBC and the Washington Post were saved by GCHQ and shared on the agency’s intranet as part of a test exercise by the signals intelligence agency.

The disclosure comes as the British government faces intense pressure to protect the confidential communications of reporters, MPs and lawyers from snooping.

The journalists’ communications were among 70,000 emails harvested in the space of less than 10 minutes on one day in November 2008 by one of GCHQ’s numerous taps on the fibre-optic cables that make up the backbone of the internet.

The communications, which were sometimes simple mass-PR emails sent to dozens of journalists but also included correspondence between reporters and editors discussing stories, were retained by GCHQ and were available to all cleared staff on the agency intranet. There is nothing to indicate whether or not the journalists were intentionally targeted.


http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/gchq-intercepted-emails-journalists-ny-times-bbc-guardian-le-monde-reuters-nbc-washington-post
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Huge Snowden story:British spy agency intercepted emails from journalists at NYT, WaPo, Reuters, BBC (Original Post) kpete Jan 2015 OP
Holy media firestorm, Batman. Has Wolf Blitzer taken any time off from bashing Islam to cover this? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #1
"a test exercise... nothing to indicate whether or not the journalists were intentionally targeted" uhnope Jan 2015 #2
The British editors seem pretty excited....why does one believe the spies now? Why "test" at all? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #3
your post makes little sense. pls reword. nt uhnope Jan 2015 #4
It was a test to sift out communications that were NOT part of targeting. randome Jan 2015 #5
Yeah, hopefully. And hopefully they did not do it ever, ever again. Then why are the hundreds of Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #7
Snowden must miss seeing his name in the headlines. George II Jan 2015 #8
The hundreds of editors in Britain sure do appreciate that he did. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #9
I certainly do. sibelian Jan 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #15
The only time I'd like to see Snowden's name in the headlines is if the headline reads: George II Jan 2015 #27
So you don't think this is a big deal? Hissyspit Jan 2015 #19
He/she needs to read more. n/t ReRe Jan 2015 #20
"A spokesman for GCHQ said: cheapdate Jan 2015 #21
As a very good friend would say malaise Jan 2015 #24
Read past the headline - it happened in 2008, about seven years ago. George II Jan 2015 #28
So? Hissyspit Jan 2015 #29
Although it would probably be icky... RufusTFirefly Jan 2015 #10
love those Brit comments grasswire Jan 2015 #12
+1 Octafish Jan 2015 #18
+2 ReRe Jan 2015 #22
Sanctions Against UK billhicks76 Jan 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Jan 2015 #33
K&R elias49 Jan 2015 #14
Weren't they using encryption? Helen Borg Jan 2015 #16
Ha! Fawke Em Jan 2015 #25
Yes, I was being sarcastic. Sorry, should have added the sign! Helen Borg Jan 2015 #30
Ka-BOOM! Octafish Jan 2015 #17
K&R ReRe Jan 2015 #23
Orwell via Guardian comments grasswire Jan 2015 #26
K&R woo me with science Jan 2015 #31
DURec. bvar22 Jan 2015 #32

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Holy media firestorm, Batman. Has Wolf Blitzer taken any time off from bashing Islam to cover this?
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jan 2015

Did you really think the systemic government and privste corporate invasion of privacy ever did NOT include the media?

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
2. "a test exercise... nothing to indicate whether or not the journalists were intentionally targeted"
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jan 2015

Once again a sensational headline to cover a dud story designed for the overly excitable.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. The British editors seem pretty excited....why does one believe the spies now? Why "test" at all?
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jan 2015

"Senior editors and lawyers in the UK have called for the urgent introduction of a freedom of expression law amid growing concern over safeguards proposed by ministers to meet concerns over the police use of surveillance powers linked to the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (Ripa).

More than 100 editors, including those from all the national newspapers, have signed a letter, coordinated by the Society of Editors and Press Gazette, to the UK prime minister, David Cameron, protesting at snooping on journalists’ communications.

In the wake of terror attacks on the Charlie Hebdo offices and a Jewish grocer in Paris, Cameron has renewed calls for further bulk-surveillance powers, such as those which netted these journalistic communications.

Ripa has been used to access journalists’ communications without a warrrant, with recent cases including police accessing the phone records of Tom Newton-Dunn, the Sun’s political editor, over the Plebgate investigation. The call records of Mail on Sunday reporters involved in the paper’s coverage of Chris Huhne’s speeding row were also accessed in this fashion."
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. It was a test to sift out communications that were NOT part of targeting.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jan 2015

Hopefully it worked and the emails they were not interested in went straight to the trash bin.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. Yeah, hopefully. And hopefully they did not do it ever, ever again. Then why are the hundreds of
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jan 2015

editors so upset? They can trust what the spy agency is saying, of course they can. They don't.

Although Snowden having to reveal to the public this harmless little test is......revealing.

Response to George II (Reply #8)

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. The only time I'd like to see Snowden's name in the headlines is if the headline reads:
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jan 2015

"Snowden returns to US"

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
19. So you don't think this is a big deal?
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:52 PM
Jan 2015

How in the fuck can you not understand that this is a big deal?

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
21. "A spokesman for GCHQ said:
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:15 PM
Jan 2015

...all of GCHQ’s work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework, which ensures that our activities are authorised, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight..."

Etc., etc., etc.

The debate is the same. Security vs. Privacy.

malaise

(268,943 posts)
24. As a very good friend would say
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jan 2015

Just laugh - this is a huge deal but the hatred for Snowden supersedes the magnitude of this information.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
10. Although it would probably be icky...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jan 2015

... I sometimes wonder what it would be like to get into the heads of some knee-jerk authoritarians.

Although it's conspiratorial to suggest such a thing, sometimes I almost wish that they turned out to be mercenaries who didn't truly believe what they were asserting. The alternative is just too alarming, perplexing, and depressing.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
12. love those Brit comments
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jan 2015

Here's one:

Gerry westerby
5h ago
16 17

It's about time the people decided what they want not bloody shiny arsed civil servants. That's why we have a bloody democracy. That's why we are supposed to be free, to think for ourselves, to act for ourselves and to have the bloody freedom to talk to each other without some fucking spy poking his nose in because some tosser thought it would be ok.
Fuck the lot of them. I don't want to live in a fucking prison.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
13. Sanctions Against UK
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jan 2015

That would be nice. But we know NSA colluded with them to snatch these calls.

Response to billhicks76 (Reply #13)

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
25. Ha!
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jan 2015
As a key part of a campaign to embed encryption software that it could crack into widely used computer products, the U.S. National Security Agency arranged a secret $10 million contract with RSA, one of the most influential firms in the computer security industry, Reuters has learned.

Documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden show that the NSA created and promulgated a flawed formula for generating random numbers to create a "back door" in encryption products, the New York Times reported in September. Reuters later reported that RSA became the most important distributor of that formula by rolling it into a software tool called Bsafe that is used to enhance security in personal computers and many other products.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220

(But, I think by the way you said that, you were being sarcastic. )

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Ka-BOOM!
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jan 2015

The Free Press is what makes Democracy possible. And it's also why Tyrants do all they can to destroy the First Amendment.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
26. Orwell via Guardian comments
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jan 2015

Winston Smith: [observing the Prole woman from their hideaway] The future is hers... we are the dead...
Julia: We are the dead...
Big Brother: [voice] YOU ARE THE DEAD!
[Winston and Julia look around the room, startled]
Big Brother: [voice] Remain EXACTLY where you are! Make NO move until you are ordered!

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