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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHuge Snowden story:British spy agency intercepted emails from journalists at NYT, WaPo, Reuters, BBC
GCHQ captured emails of journalists from top international media Snowden files reveal emails of BBC, NY Times and more
Agency includes investigative journalists on threat list
Editors call on Cameron to act against snooping on media
GCHQs bulk surveillance of electronic communications has scooped up emails to and from journalists working for some of the US and UKs largest media organisations, analysis of documents released by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.
Emails from the BBC, Reuters, the Guardian, the New York Times, Le Monde, the Sun, NBC and the Washington Post were saved by GCHQ and shared on the agencys intranet as part of a test exercise by the signals intelligence agency.
The disclosure comes as the British government faces intense pressure to protect the confidential communications of reporters, MPs and lawyers from snooping.
The journalists communications were among 70,000 emails harvested in the space of less than 10 minutes on one day in November 2008 by one of GCHQs numerous taps on the fibre-optic cables that make up the backbone of the internet.
The communications, which were sometimes simple mass-PR emails sent to dozens of journalists but also included correspondence between reporters and editors discussing stories, were retained by GCHQ and were available to all cleared staff on the agency intranet. There is nothing to indicate whether or not the journalists were intentionally targeted.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/gchq-intercepted-emails-journalists-ny-times-bbc-guardian-le-monde-reuters-nbc-washington-post
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Did you really think the systemic government and privste corporate invasion of privacy ever did NOT include the media?
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Once again a sensational headline to cover a dud story designed for the overly excitable.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)"Senior editors and lawyers in the UK have called for the urgent introduction of a freedom of expression law amid growing concern over safeguards proposed by ministers to meet concerns over the police use of surveillance powers linked to the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (Ripa).
More than 100 editors, including those from all the national newspapers, have signed a letter, coordinated by the Society of Editors and Press Gazette, to the UK prime minister, David Cameron, protesting at snooping on journalists communications.
In the wake of terror attacks on the Charlie Hebdo offices and a Jewish grocer in Paris, Cameron has renewed calls for further bulk-surveillance powers, such as those which netted these journalistic communications.
Ripa has been used to access journalists communications without a warrrant, with recent cases including police accessing the phone records of Tom Newton-Dunn, the Suns political editor, over the Plebgate investigation. The call records of Mail on Sunday reporters involved in the papers coverage of Chris Huhnes speeding row were also accessed in this fashion."
uhnope
(6,419 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Hopefully it worked and the emails they were not interested in went straight to the trash bin.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)editors so upset? They can trust what the spy agency is saying, of course they can. They don't.
Although Snowden having to reveal to the public this harmless little test is......revealing.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)Response to George II (Reply #8)
1000words This message was self-deleted by its author.
George II
(67,782 posts)"Snowden returns to US"
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)How in the fuck can you not understand that this is a big deal?
ReRe
(10,597 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)...all of GCHQs work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework, which ensures that our activities are authorised, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight..."
Etc., etc., etc.
The debate is the same. Security vs. Privacy.
malaise
(268,943 posts)Just laugh - this is a huge deal but the hatred for Snowden supersedes the magnitude of this information.
George II
(67,782 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)... I sometimes wonder what it would be like to get into the heads of some knee-jerk authoritarians.
Although it's conspiratorial to suggest such a thing, sometimes I almost wish that they turned out to be mercenaries who didn't truly believe what they were asserting. The alternative is just too alarming, perplexing, and depressing.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Here's one:
Gerry westerby
5h ago
16 17
It's about time the people decided what they want not bloody shiny arsed civil servants. That's why we have a bloody democracy. That's why we are supposed to be free, to think for ourselves, to act for ourselves and to have the bloody freedom to talk to each other without some fucking spy poking his nose in because some tosser thought it would be ok.
Fuck the lot of them. I don't want to live in a fucking prison.
And all I own, including Sacred Honor.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)That would be nice. But we know NSA colluded with them to snatch these calls.
Response to billhicks76 (Reply #13)
uhnope This message was self-deleted by its author.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)...
As a key part of a campaign to embed encryption software that it could crack into widely used computer products, the U.S. National Security Agency arranged a secret $10 million contract with RSA, one of the most influential firms in the computer security industry, Reuters has learned.
Documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden show that the NSA created and promulgated a flawed formula for generating random numbers to create a "back door" in encryption products, the New York Times reported in September. Reuters later reported that RSA became the most important distributor of that formula by rolling it into a software tool called Bsafe that is used to enhance security in personal computers and many other products.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220
(But, I think by the way you said that, you were being sarcastic. )
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)The Free Press is what makes Democracy possible. And it's also why Tyrants do all they can to destroy the First Amendment.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Winston Smith: [observing the Prole woman from their hideaway] The future is hers... we are the dead...
Julia: We are the dead...
Big Brother: [voice] YOU ARE THE DEAD!
[Winston and Julia look around the room, startled]
Big Brother: [voice] Remain EXACTLY where you are! Make NO move until you are ordered!