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Alabama school superintendent bans high school history club from seeing Selma
Tom Boggioni
18 Jan 2015 at 17:53 ET
A school trip to the see the historical civil rights drama Selma by a high school history club has been cancelled by the school superintendent over concerns over language, reports WAFF.
DeKalb County school superintendent Hugh Taylor cancelled the outing by students at the predominately minority school, saying he was concerned about obscene language and racial profanity in the Oscar-nominated film.
An African-American parent of one senior in the history club who had planned on seeing the film questioned the superintendents motives.
It raises my curiosity as to whether something that they are not wanting exposed or the children not to know about. said Reverend James Stanton. I dont believe it is just about the profanity.
Stanton, who was 20 in 1965, explained that he lived through the era and was warned to stay away out of safety concerns.
They did not want me to come down and visit because of the violence and the racial problems that they were having at the time. said Stanton.
According to Taylor, he is concerned about what would happen if a child was offended by the film and wanted to leave the theater, saying he didnt think teachers should have to be put in the position of playing parent.
Taylor was elected DeKalb County school superintendent in 2013 despite concerns that he sends his won four children to a private Christian academy.
Watch the video below from WAFF @ link~
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/alabama-school-superintendent-bans-high-school-history-club-from-seeing-selma/
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)A white, male, evangelical Christian.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)hypocrisy there. You cannot make it up. (Dante has a spot reserved for this douchenozzle Taylor in the 8th circle of his Inferno, btw.)
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)sent their kids to private schools. SMH
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lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)And evidently this anachronistic clown wants the next generation of Alabamians to turn the calendar back 75 years.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)The county is 93% white, and a dry county, mostly.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)"Racial profanity" my sweet Aunt Fanny.
babylonsister
(171,056 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Send home parental permission slips. Note the bad language. Offer an alternative for the students whose parents do not want them to attend.
Hekate
(90,643 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)stupidstupidstupidstupidstupid...
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)It's called "In Loco Parentis" and is the policy in public schools. As I tell my students, it doesn't mean your parents are nuts, it means that we teachers are acting as their parents when they are in our care. All this would have taken is a note home, with alternative assignments for any kid whose parents object.
PumpkinAle
(1,210 posts)what a ridiculous excuse - it was the Civil Rights Movement - a major, major part of American history and one where Alabama played a huge role. If the children are upset by the language - let them talk about it and learn why people spoke the way they did and why resorting to obscene language was a release for them.
Let the children learn - history comes in many forms and is a great teacher!
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)high school classes planned to attend the viewing together.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)and it is a racially diverse youth group, too.
d_r
(6,907 posts)high schoolers are over 13
Cha
(297,137 posts)racist fool?
roody
(10,849 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Idiots like this guy are, well, idiots.
Hopefully he'll be out of work soon.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)They used to call those segregation academies, because white people send all their kids to expensive private schools while the public school become nearly all black. And now this segregationist is running the public schools as poorly as possible, hoping to keep the races separate and one race oppressed.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Gotta know your demographics when stories like this come up.
The prime issue in that county/area is poor whites vs. the few rich ones that support the private schools.
The area is not that far from Scottsboro, a place you might have heard of.
The guy does not want the students to learn a different version of the history being taught in his schools.
Little does he realize the movie can be found all over the internet, and in dvd form soon.
I would love to see the curriculum for the private academies that are all over the state, including the one in my town.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)It would be fascinating to see those private christian academy curricula, yes.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)by the treatment of blacks during the Civil Rights Era (and even before that as a matter of fact). I wish that the parents would push to put together a field trip to get as many of the kids to see the movie as possible. If I were one of the parents I would be more then willing to take time off from work to help the kids see the movie.
Taylor is more concerned about white sensibilities then the truth of what was taking place in Alabama during that era. If there is any group with the right to be angry it is the blacks for the way they were treated for years. People like Taylor are afraid that movies like Selma will encourage minorities to stand up for their right to vote in a time when states are trying to pass laws that have the impact of trying to limit the right to vote. It is amazing that, in the 21st Century, Americans once again have to fight for the right to vote.
marmar
(77,072 posts)Yeah, words like equality, oppression, segregation, racism etc etc.
Dios Mio.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)"you don't mind"!!!!!! That's insulting.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)be less accurate, shall we say.
I'm not, though, opposed to the students seeing "Selma." I showed "Becket" in a couple classes. But I did it IN my class, and didn't interrupt other subject teachers' schedules.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)it is a movie about a period of our history that is shameful and evil being perpetrated by ignorant and vicious people at the behest of their masters and that has returned big time. It is also a movie about people having the courage to stand against A COMPLETE CULTURAL SYSTEM that is evil and vicious. Being prepared and understanding what's coming your way is much better than no preparation at all. These young kids must understand what they are facing in this the 21st century of our 'democracy'. Small 'd' and always will be. Yeah I was fond, all through high school, of history books and classes, until I found out how many lies were written on so many pages concerning american exceptionalism.
My service in Vietnam started me questioning the veracity of the claims of what america was trying to accomplish. Man did that open a floodgate. Ever turn your students on to Lerone Bennett, Howard Zinn just to name a couple?
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It tells the students that racism is alive and well in Alabama and they are still considered second class humans.
mac56
(17,566 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)That's what I would do.
Then, if that sup tried to punish me, I'd sue.
librechik
(30,674 posts)if it were any place other than Alabama, I would recommend fighting. But the whole legal system there is corrupt. No justice ever in Alabama. teacher would be lucky not to wind up in prison, like the last Democratic Governor there. Jailed for acting Republican while Democrat.
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)I believe the super sidestepped what could have been a nightmare for him. Sure, a few parents in Alabama would be upset their kids were seeing a civil rights movie alone, but I'm sure many would be even more incensed that their kids were exposed to raw language by the school that they expect to shelter them from such blasphemous script. Some would have complained about their kids seeing Fantasia.
I think the superintendent was in a corner here. I don't know him and can't vouch for him of course, but I'm willing to give him a break considering where he teaches. Some of his students probably have parents who monitor TV shows looking for profanity so they can write ranting letters to the networks.
Feron
(2,063 posts)"Eyes on the Prize" in school to their students instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyes_on_the_Prize
shenmue
(38,506 posts)3catwoman3
(23,971 posts)These are high school kids. I'd be really surprised if there is language in this movie that they all haven't heard, and in many cases probably used on a regular basis.
And how can the principal ban them from doing something done off campus and on their own time?
Demeter
(85,373 posts)freedomrock1970
(31 posts)Javaman
(62,517 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)...with a parent or adult going to the film.
Anyone wondering: "What's wrong with Alabama?" should also remember Gov. Don Siegelman.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Or a Ted Nugent concert.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)We will never run out of either, it seems. Horseshit on stilts and steroids.
glasshouses
(484 posts)If they are seniors then I don't see a problem.
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)glasshouses
(484 posts)It's a Hollywood movie and many things have been proved were historically inaccurate.
It's a good movie but that's what it is a Hollywood good movie.
The students can go anytime time they want to watch it on their own time.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)are not historically inaccurate neither is the fight against those CONTINUING evils. To see a 'movie' such as this, historically, is a teaching tool. The fight against racism, bigotry and cultural ignorance is not over yet in 50 years that have passed from the time of this 'movie' subject, the racism, bigotry and ignorance is still very prevalent today. "Historically inaccurate" my "aunt fanny".
avebury
(10,952 posts)I was so pissed off. To them it was all about the language of the movie.
I emailed both of the anchors and tore them a new one. They totally came across as clueless in not even considering the real impact that the movie can make on people.
The film is historically accurate and just because it does not tell a "pretty story" is not grounds to keep high school kids from seeing it. I pointed out that the missed the bigger picture that it teaches a new generation the importance of registering to vote. I also pointed out to them the fact that the WHITE Superintendent sends his children to a private Christian school.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)From the made-up King speeches, to the portrayal of Johnson as an adversary of Dr. King, the majority of the film is made up for good cinema.
Mass
(27,315 posts)Frankly, it should be shown to very senior in high school as part of the history program. If there are elements in it that deserve to be corrected, an history teacher should correct them, Inform the parents, give them a choice, but do not forbid it.
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)I am not speaking to this case specifically, as I have not looked into it enough to form an opinion. However, I believe it is wrong to spend what little classroom time students have to expose them to something that is incorrect and then spend more time telling them what they just spent classroom time on was wrong.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)out of the history books as fast as they could for awhile now. And then, these people come along and started this bs with this movie.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Of course, some parent somewhere would complain....
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure he was...
appalachiablue
(41,124 posts)Bartlet
(172 posts)a racist not wanting the students he has control over seeing how recent and how close to home the murderous kind of racism was and still is.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Many of these students will probably see the movie on "their own time".
This superintendent dude is a chump BTW.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Most of these kids these days are computer smart this movie is currently online free on several sites.
malaise
(268,923 posts)It is more than selective
merrily
(45,251 posts)kids can still see the movie independently of the school.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There really is no connection at all.
merrily
(45,251 posts)that happened regularly. My understanding, though I never tried to verify, is that banning usually increased ticket and book sales. Just saying.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or is it just this one?
Vinca
(50,261 posts)Some combine MLK day with Robert E. Lee day.
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. Imo, that superintendent is using excuses to (try to, in his own mind) hide bigotry.
treestar
(82,383 posts)One parent can make a stink over it. If the students in the club want to go, they can still go unofficially.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I totally understand. This would be the LAST thing the racist South would want to have explained to their young KKK members of tomorrow. Hell, it puts the KKK and the thuggish behavior of the disgusting racists in a clear light.
Scruffy Rumbler
(961 posts)I wonder if the production company would release a copy for the local church to hold a movie night for the students and their families?
Make a weekend out of it with teach ins!
"predominately minority school"...white superintendent...hmmmm is that the scent of institutional racism?
TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)Chakaconcarne
(2,444 posts)I agree it's lame, but given the position the principle is likely in, the unknowns AND the fact that every one of these students can go see it on their own..... "Ban"? Perhaps for the sake of sensationalism (which makes us all look bad BTW). He cancelled the trip.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)figures.....history hurts the guilty only. It edifies the innocent. Obvious intent here and it ain't about language.....
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)And I'm glad. Republicans don't want people to learn about (or to be reminded of) how many people died for the right to vote. This push back against voter registration and now civil rights movies will only speed up their demise. The superintendent's actions will cause millions more to see the film, and, yes, take voting more seriously.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)niyad
(113,257 posts)niyad
(113,257 posts)DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)Why not just have the permission slip that says the movie is PG-13? I mean, they have to have a permission slip to get on the bus and go on a trip anyway.
So ridiculous.