Howard Dean’s Advice for Candidates

[wyldwolf]

Howard Dean gave some good advice for this cycle’s presidential candidate recalling that his effort to evolve from populist insurgent to plausible president was “really hard,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

Said Dean: “The hard part was that internally you get sucked into being adored by thousands of people who just hang on your every word and you’re trying to dial it back. I found myself reaching back for the fiery applause line that I knew I shouldn’t be doing because the crowd, it would just light ‘em up. That was fine in the room, but it wasn’t fine for the country, who wanted to vote for somebody who looked like a president.”

Dean noted that his inability “to maintain the control necessary to present himself as presidential material, along with a disorganized campaign and intramural squabbles, torpedoed his effort.”

http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/14/howard-deans-advice-candidates/

Dean would be a better candidate today than he was 10 years ago.

[stuffmatters]

1. I wish he would run again, but he seems pretty much for Hilary

Maybe Hilary will put in him the Cabinet...Sec'y Health & Human Services...Dr Dean's great at messaging, especially on ACA and could help greatly at rolling it towards medicare for all.

[randys1]

2. What does that tell you about both of them and the system?

I dont say that in a insulting way, I say it as a way for people to understand that the system we have will NOT allow for a Dean or Warren or Sanders to not only get elected (not impossible, but tough) and if they did get elected, they simply couldnt do what we want them to do, the system wont allow it.

IDeally you do away with the American Taliban (repubs/teaparty) and form a liberal opposition party to oppose the Democratic Party

[brooklynite]

7. Your DO understand that Parties represent votes, and not the other way around?

The Tea Party exists because there are real live conservatives. You can't "do away" with them.

[randys1]

18. No teapartier has the first clue what a conservative is

[elias49]

11. Dean, Warren, Sanders, Obama nt

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. He was a fine candidate then. He got screwed by the media, who were looking for a way

to discredit him, and using a jacked up microphone feed made it sound like he was screaming when he wasn't.

[stuffmatters]

4. Completely agree. MSM defined Dean forever for not what he said but for the(prob manipulated)volume

Dean'd won a hard primary and was jubilant, enthusiastic...MSM turned his victory "yelp" into a character assasinatng clip that they'll run forever.
So unfair, Dean's one of wisest and best.

[Nye Bevan]

9. I'm not sure I'd call it a "victory yelp", given that he had just taken third place (nt)

[Nye Bevan]

5. "Don't scream".

(Those who think the "volume was manipulated" can compensate by lowering the volume of this video a tad at the 30 second mark).

[brooklynite]

6. HOward Dean was already doomed...

He did a mediocre job turning out votes in Iowa, and his campaign was collapsing in New Hampshire.

[Nye Bevan]

8. I remember the DU conventional wisdom that the Democratic candidate would be Dean or Wesley Clark,

and how amazed most folks were when Kerry came out of nowhere. Good to bear in mind when people assume that Hillary is all but certain to get the nod for 2016.

[brooklynite]

10. I hate to disappoint you...

...but I do -not- represent DU conventional wisdom, and I will reaffirm that Hillary is very likely to win the nomination and the election.

[Nye Bevan]

12. I'm not disappointed and I am a Hillary supporter.

I agree that she is definitely the favorite, but a week is a long time in politics and a year is an eternity.

[JonLP24]

16. Wesley Clark? Really - talk about a candidate that came out of nowhere

Kerry was always right up there in contributions & polling. I'm surprised it wasn't John Edwards(rather than Wesley Clark)` who I never could get into but a lot of progressives & Democrats were into.

[Nye Bevan]

17. This DU poll from October 2003 sums it up:

Howard Dean....................303 votes, 37%
Wesley Clark...................242 votes, 30%
Dennis Kucinich................135 votes, 17%
John Kerry..................... 56 votes, 7%
Don't Know, Undecided, Other... 33 votes, 4%
John Edwards................... 23 votes, 3%
Al Sharpton.................... 10 votes, 1%
Carol Moseley Braun............ 8 votes, 1%
Joe Lieberman.................. 4 votes, 0%
Dick Gephardt.................. 3 votes, 0%

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x543429

[Renew Deal]

13. Remember in 2008 people were calling Obama Dean 2.0

The updated and improved version.

[Vattel]

14. When Kerry came out with that reporting for duty line, my reaction

was "Okay, that was worse than the scream." Kerry almost won though.

[JonLP24]

15. All he said was "look the part" basically

He had to deal with the "ABB" mindset who just wanted the "electable" guy to win and Kerry looked like the guy who ended up losing the narrative with his confusing statement on his Iraq war vote. This explains why Michael Moore and others pushed Wesley Clark who nobody knew his policies but he was the "electable anti-war" guy.

The reason the scenario played out for Republicans in 2012 is because of the same thing. Republicans didn't like Romney but there was an anybody but Obama mindset and they felt he was the electable guy but he ended up losing the narrative as a flip flopper.