NYT SLAMS NYPD: 'If NYPD's Current Commanders Cannot Get Cops To Do Their Jobs - Replace Them'

[kpete]

No Justice, No Police
By THE EDITORIAL BOARDJAN. 6, 2015

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He should appeal directly to the public and say plainly that the police are trying to extort him and the city he leads.

If the Police Department’s current commanders cannot get the cops to do their jobs, Mr. de Blasio should consider replacing them.

He should invite the Justice Department to determine if the police are guilty of civil rights violations in withdrawing policing from minority communities.

He should remind the police that they are public employees, under oath to uphold city and state laws.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/opinion/no-justice-no-police.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region%C2%AEion=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=0

[DirkGently]

1. Their "slowdown" is proving them superfluous.

NYPD is giving itself a big black eye here. Fewer arrests, but no more crime. They're proving the case against the new school of aggressive policing.

Good.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

25. Great point! Fire them.

[zeemike]

2. Boom...that it is it short and sweet.

If they can't do the job then fire them...insubordination should not be tolerated in such an important function.

[fbc]

3. Why argue with success? The slowdown is a good thing. Save money and lay off the worst officers.

[ejbr]

30. +1 n/t

[spanone]

4. k&r....powerful

[Spitfire of ATJ]

5. Wow. You mean black people can walk the streets?

White people must be TERRIFIED!!!!

[daleanime]

16. Republicans always are....

it's why they are republican.

[Kber]

32. Perfect reply

And sadly true.

I am grateful that I wasn't raised to live my life in constant fear.

[Cha]

6. I have been thinking that these belligerant cops should just be fired and replaced

with cops who will do their job with respect.

thanks kpete

[ncjustice80]

15. Why replace them? Its obvious they are not needed.

[LAGC]

35. +1

The key phrase to me was: no longer carrying out "non-essential" police duties.

Which begs the question: why in the fuck are the police carrying out "non-essential" duties like harassing people driving to work and performing mass stop-and-frisks in the first place?

[kpete]

19. you are most welcome

peace to you and yours,
and a Happy New Year too,
kp

[99th_Monkey]

7. Who needs cops?

who refuse to do their jobs and who mock their boss
and grieving families.

Fuck the NYPD insubordinates.

[DeSwiss]

8. I said several days ago......

...the firings should have started the day after the funeral.

- Start with the worst fuckups (which should be terribly easy to do) and keep going until you've cleaned house!

K&R


Assholes you works for us -- THE PEOPLE! If the job's too risky, find YOURSELF a safer one.....

[blkmusclmachine]

9. Fire the bad cops! It's past time!!

[Viva]

10. Residency requirement

I keep wondering how many of these officers who turned their backs are residents of the 5 boroughs. I always thought that a residency requirement would be a good idea. Obviously I am not the only one to be drawn to this....http://gothamist.com/2014/08/21/should_nypd_officers_have_to_live_i.php

[SunSeeker]

14. Good luck trying to establish a residency requirement.

We have a phenomenon here in L.A. where a big chunk of the police live outside of Los Angeles County altogether, in predominantly white Simi Valley which is a city in eastern Ventura County.

Simi Valley is also the site of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. The city and surrounding areas are among the most socially and politically conservative places in all of California, so cops fit right in.

I've read that the large numbers of LAPD officers living in Ventura County is thanks to a California law passed in the '70s forbidding cities from requiring police officers and other employees to live in the cities they work for. Apparently the ACLU pushed for that CA law banning residency requirements.

But I see nothing that stops a city from trying extra hard to recruit from its own residents.

[dsc]

22. Staten Island is a police haven

and a borough.

[calimary]

34. That's the place where that lovely specimen, michael grimm, came from.

The now ex-Congressman who threatened that young reporter and said he'd throw the kid off the balcony (and they got it all on video). Big bullying lout! Some brothers and sisters here recommend no name-calling and the higher me totally supports that. But lovelies like michael grimm bring out the lower me, and loads of accessories! He wasn't forced to resign because of that, though.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/disgraced-staten-island-republican-formally-steps-blog-entry-1.2066465

It was tax evasion that got him. Hey - how 'bout that? Just like Al Capone!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone

I always find my mind going directly toward the "who the hell votes for these people?" Well, who does? Hmmm... if, indeed, Staten Island has quite a large population of police in residence, no wonder some loud swaggering bully on the ballot gets their attention. One usually votes for someone they like (or at least think they like).

All the time now, I wonder "who the hell votes for these people?" louie gohmert comes to mind. the former senator saxby chambliss. steve king. blake farenhold. pete and jeff sessions - either one. virginia foxx. james inhofe. former rep paul broun. the artist formerly known as michele bachmann. WHO saw any of these as somehow fit to hold public office? WHO??? I find I look at the voters with an increasingly critical eye. The voters are the ones who decide who goes to the House of Reps every other January. These idiots don't get there on their own, or by themselves. Somebody thinks they belong in Washington, representing the folks back home. So it's the VOTERS who are to blame for the dumbfucks who win their way there. Gotta know who they are, to know how either to beat them, or win them over.

Meantime, as I was looking around, I found this (from a few years back):

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=7133

[sabrina 1]

11. Save taxes, reduce the police force. They have demonstrated they are not needed.

They have admitted they make arrests that are not necessary.

The city seems to be doing fine, so problem solved.

[former9thward]

21. How do you replace the lost revenue?

That is what the tickets and arrests bring in.

[adirondacker]

23. paychecks and pensions. the same way the new york governor treated teachers. nt

[TheKentuckian]

27. The way governments are supposed to fund themselves by levying taxes

not by ducking reality by shaking down the poor and working class folks without a voice.

This is the big story in all of this, the cops are under orders to squeeze to wring out revenue because the politicians want to tell the banks, traders, corporations, and all of the vulture class they can have a free ride and that they are business friendly.

The shakedowns are just racist cops running amok it is a thoroughly corrupt system working with clockwork precision and guess what...the cops are putting the pinch on exactly who they are supposed to even while some of the pols wring their hands. There is no way to claim ignorance, it is clear where the money flows from.

The law and order types will soon be out of the woodwork, the cause of the greatest fear in all of America...taxes will not be allowed. They'll call the protesters agitators and terrorists, weep like Jimmy Swaggart about "black on black crime", talk big about fighting back against anarchy, and cheer on the status quo while counting the murdered as broken eggs in their greedy ass omelet.

[Go Vols]

28. +1

[former9thward]

29. NYC already has the highest taxes in the U.S.

Its no longer a solution. Except maybe for those living in Kentucky and wanting to tell New Yorkers how to live.

[TheKentuckian]

31. So, your revenue solution is pissing on the Constitution and shakedowns for fines?

Particularly, to shakedown those with the least voice to be heard and if heard most likely to be ignored.

Pretty screwed up way to fund your government and when you start violating civil rights to do it then you have a national concern.
I don't think geography prevents me from calling fucked up fucked up in my own country anyway.

[ReRe]

12. I keep finding myself...

... yearning for Democratic leaders who will stand up and lead.

[Trillo]

13. You know, I think I disagree with the title.

It might actually be possible for cops to salvage their reputations by only going after the serious crimes, and otherwise just cruise on the job, since legislators have resorted to micromanaging all of our lives.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. The NY Time's actual title is fantastic- "No Justice, No Police"

I love that.

[cwydro]

18. NYT has been great on this issue. nt

[Ikonoklast]

20. NYC cops, up to September 10, 2001: Many people, including other governmental oversight agencies

as well as citizens of the city saw them as less than honest, incompetent at best, criminals as worst.


NYC cops, September 11, 2001: HEROES!

NYC cops on the long decline since September 11, 2001: Reverting to the century or so of being what they were thought of previously.

[WillyT]

24. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. Replace? Why?

It looks to me like the force has been larded up with unneeded positions for decades. They're simply showing that they haven't needed the cops they've had forever.

[MADem]

33. Yes indeed--replace them with people who understand the meanings of two words,

those words being "protect" and "serve."