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Jesus Malverde

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Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:54 AM Jan 2015

Murders Drop to a Record Low, but Officers Aren’t Celebrating

The number of murders in New York City has dropped to what years ago would have seemed like an impossible low: 328 killings recorded in 2014, the lowest figure since at least 1963, when the Police Department began collecting reliable statistics.

With hours left in 2014, the number of murders capped a year of lower numbers in nearly every major crime category and offered an answer to what had been a central question of Mayor Bill de Blasio’s first year: Could a mayor elected on promises of police reform keep the specter of the bad old days from returning?

But there is little celebration among the city’s police officers, who remain in mourning after the recent killings of two comrades. They have also heard calls to reverse their policing practices and found their union representatives locked in a bitter public struggle with the mayor that, in recent days, has coincided with a substantial drop in enforcement of everyday crime by officers.

Reports of major crimes citywide continued their yearlong decline, to 105,428 through Dec. 28, from 110,728 in the same period in 2013, according to Police Department statistics. Murders dropped from 335 in 2013.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/01/nyregion/new-york-city-murders-fall-but-the-police-arent-celebrating.html?_r=0

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Murders Drop to a Record Low, but Officers Aren’t Celebrating (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 OP
K&R QuestionableC Jan 2015 #1
Historical murder numbers don't mean much. JEFF9K Jan 2015 #2
The starting point in the article is 1963, not 1863. Recent historical murder rates actually NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #3
Sounds like you don't understand my comment. JEFF9K Jan 2015 #4
I understood your stupid comment perfectly well. And the chart isn't from FOX. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #5
It's the exact OPPOSITE of a "stupid comment." JEFF9K Jan 2015 #6
How so, oh wise one? NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #7

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
2. Historical murder numbers don't mean much.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jan 2015

We need to compare the number of acts that would have resulted in death in times of less advanced medical practices with the number of those acts in later periods.

 

NewDeal_Dem

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3. The starting point in the article is 1963, not 1863. Recent historical murder rates actually
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jan 2015

mean a great deal.

And here are the historical rates for before the Civil War forward: Which make it clear that the highest murder rate (in absolute numbers) was coincidental with the 90s crack epidemic, and advances in medicine wouldn't have made a lot of difference.


 

NewDeal_Dem

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5. I understood your stupid comment perfectly well. And the chart isn't from FOX.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 03:35 PM
Jan 2015

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JEFF9K

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6. It's the exact OPPOSITE of a "stupid comment."
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jan 2015

The point has been made in national news articles and is extremely important.

You chart isn't helpful at all. It's appears to be purposely misleading, just like a Fox chart.

 

NewDeal_Dem

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7. How so, oh wise one?
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jan 2015

Give me a link to where your 'extremely important' point was made in national news while you're at it.

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