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[Playinghardball]

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

1. The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought

The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks. Lord Acton, circa 1870s

[vlakitti]

8. A really great quote!

Thank you. I've never seen or heard of it before....

[safeinOhio]

2. Looking forward to the

Humanist Reformation.

[brooklynite]

3. I don't think the comparison works...

...The Federal Reserve may support the banking industry, but it doesn't exercise the top level of either political or economic control...unless you're buying into the "Federal Reserve is a secret organization independent of the Government" conspiracy theory.

[stevenleser]

6. Agreed, mostly because the buzzwords like "bankers" and "corporate elite" don't really mean much

Among the vast majority of things we on the left get right, the use of these trite terms doesn't help us much when actually setting policy.

They are convenient terms on which to rail against, but because they don't really mean anything, it hampers us getting anything done in the long term.

This is where one of occupy's strengths comes in. Economically, they said Occupy was against policies that benefit the 1% at the expense of the 99%. Well, there is a standard with which you can measure every economic policy or policy that has an impact on economics in some way and determine if it is a policy you should oppose or support.

Being against nebulous "bankers" or "corporate elite" doesn't give you anything remotely like that.

Then comes the whole central banking thing and the conspiratorial implication you mention that also definitely applies.

[n2doc]

4. Top 2 levels should be 'billionaires'

Maybe with a distinction between ordinary and well connected (Koches, Murdoch) ones. Bankers are included there where appropriate.

[central scrutinizer]

5. here is a 1911 version

[progressoid]

7. The top 4 are intertwined. However, I would put the Corporate Elite at the top.

I do like how the clergy and Entertainers are lumped together. Since they are essentially the same.

[Gothmog]

9. This is great