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"Muslim shooter=entire religion guilty, Black shooter=entire race guilty, White shooter=mentally

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Muslim shooter = entire religion guilty

Black shooter = entire race guilty

White shooter = mentally troubled lone wolf

6:18 AM - 21 Dec 2014 14,934 Retweets 10,019 favorites

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Rest in Peace, Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:55 PM

1. Kick

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:33 PM

56. We Need To Encourage Politicians To Not To Be Bullied

 

Last edited Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:34 AM - Edit history (1)

The right wing freaks think they can use this to bully people back into submission and shut them up about brutality. I think democrat politicians are going to stand their ground and not give into thugs.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #56)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:31 PM

62. Yes, we do, billhicks.. good thought.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #56)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:44 AM

104. Sorry for the correction....

But it is "Democratic" politicians. The use of "democrat" in this context is incorrect and a RW term.

Your overall point is correct though.

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Response to blackspade (Reply #104)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:54 AM

115. ..

mahalo blackspade

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Response to Cha (Reply #115)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:41 AM

124. Back at Cha!

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Response to blackspade (Reply #124)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:43 AM

125. ..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:58 PM

2. Spot on

The old double standard sucks

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Response to madokie (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:59 PM

3. And, it needs to be Exposed again and again and again, madokie.. it 's Got To Change. :(

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Response to Cha (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:05 PM

8. Yes it does

Change will come from us too, not from someone else changing things for us. if we want change bad enough we'll work harder to make it happen. Its the will we lack now but we're gaining on that so it will happen. Most things worth having is worth working for

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Response to madokie (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:09 PM

10. Precisely why I spend so much time online doing this.. There's only going to be a change in vital

issues like this.. coming from We The People. Thank Goodness for Social Networking now, baby!

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Response to Cha (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:11 PM

13. Exactly

Thats why the powers to be are trying so hard to limit our access to sharing information

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Response to Cha (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:05 AM

117. so true!

Me too, I do the same, Cha with the same intent. Help spread decency!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #117)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:11 AM

118. Our voices are being heard with millions of others, Blanche!



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Response to Cha (Reply #118)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:17 AM

119. that's how culture changes! individual people--

Hearts, then minds...

The personal is political and vice versa.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:00 PM

4. nailed it Cha!






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Response to napkinz (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:02 PM

6. Exactly Sally Kohn Nailed it and I had to get this out there.. Succinctly Accurate of the US Media

Whore Inc!

thanks napkinz

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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:47 PM

141. Wasn't long ago when a Native American shooter = The only good Indian is a dead Indian.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #141)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:49 PM

158. I can imagine. :(

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:02 PM

5. So true

I was thinking that when I read the police union's response - that they figured they were at war with African Americans and would respond in that way (don't remember the specific wording but it was troubling.) I know white people sometimes shoot police officers, but it doesn't seem to make police officers decide that they are at war with white people and will change their style of policing to reflect that.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:04 PM

7. I know gollygee.. it's a sick culture when everyone isn't treated equally under the LAW. :(

thank you for your post.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:08 PM

9. Perfect example of WASP or dominant group privilege

Being able to do things without having one's own group be blamed for it.

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Response to AZ Progressive (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:11 PM

14. Precisely, AZ Progressive! :(

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:09 PM

11. Be certain of nothing, be aware of all that could be

 

A lone wolf can only exist when all other wolves are gone. Solo is one, many are one. Zero is the answer, balance is the question.

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:15 PM

15. Yeah, there are no lone wolves.

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:21 PM

18. One plus zero equals one.

 

From where do you arrive upon the One? Math does not lie, emotion rules.

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:27 PM

21. Whatever you're on about here is a waste of bandwidth, not to mention

an unnecessary inconvenience to millions of electrons.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:30 PM

22. Electrons can not be destroyed or created

 

In addition, "millions" is just a number between infinities.

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:03 AM

86. I like pie....

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:29 AM

111. Are you, by chance, owed beer, travel money, and many experiences? (NT)

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Response to Heywood J (Reply #111)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:00 AM

116. Yes, but I'm not *that* person

 

Sometimes I loosen the grip on reality to view this mortal coil from above.

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #116)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:24 PM

143. I do that too.

 

I feel guilty that I was totally into what you were going on about.

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Response to Heywood J (Reply #111)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:48 AM

126. Now, THERE's a random thought if I ever heard one…

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Response to Heywood J (Reply #111)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:36 PM

147. lol this is a funny subthread

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:35 AM

90. Thanks, I had no idea.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:09 PM

12. Well, not exactly.

White shooter = entire black race (including President), NYC Mayor, plus all protestors, of any race, guilty.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:22 PM

19. Right.. blame it on the Blacks no matter what.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:17 PM

16. Perfect

Rec

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Response to malaise (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:26 PM

20. mahalo malaise

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:20 PM

17. Don't forget:

Muslim Shooter = Terrorist

White Shooter = Mentally troubled lone wolf

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Response to AngryDem001 (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:38 PM

26. 'Zactly, AD.. I was thinking of that.. thank you.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:31 PM

23. Thank you. Well said!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:32 PM

24. Great insight.

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Response to cheapdate (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:42 PM

28. So true, cheapdate. :( Our US media needs to stop this tragically stupid manipulation.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:33 PM

25. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:48 PM

30. mahalo for one, Enthusiast!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:40 PM

27. Thank you, Cha.

This is it in a nutshell. Our society is broken.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:51 PM

31. And, broken in large part because of our US mediawhore corportate culture. :(

mahalo herding

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Response to Cha (Reply #31)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:52 PM

45. That's the truth.

Without an honest, unbiased media, a true Democracy cannot happen. What America currently has is largely a for profit propaganda machine masquerading as a valid media.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #45)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:53 PM

47. And, not masquerading very well, herding. Brilliantly put. :(

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:47 PM

29. It's a common enough mistake.

Policeman kills black, it's a policeman problem. Or a bad cop. Or a scared, poorly trained cop. Your choice depends on who you are.

A lot of those signs in Ferguson-related marches didn't bother to say "the occasional cop" or "some cops." They were broad-brush signs much of the time.

White kills people, it's because of "gun culture." Or because he's a terrorist. Or mentally deranged. Depends on where you're posting.

Black kills people. It's because he's fomenting a race war or he's in a gang. Or he's angry. Or mentally deranged.

Muslim kills people. It's because he's a jihadi or he's a terrorist or he's mentally deranged. Or perhaps he's acting in self-defense because of Western imperialism and it's really "our" (which means "not us, but them over there that we dislike".

Again, it depends on who you are. You pick your bias, you pick your group, you pick your hatred or antipathy. And after that you know which is the lone-wolf, mentally deranged, independent actor and you know which are simply manifestations of larger social movements of oppression and privilege or rooted in authentic, righteous rage.

That's whether it's Newtown, Ferguson, the recent Paris incident, or the cop killings in NYC.

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Response to Igel (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:19 PM

53. I'm not so sure that it was a broad brush that was used in Ferguson MO. That whole system

seems to be corrupted from the Governor on down. Just a few examples: arresting black people so that the system can pay for itself (harassment), totally militarized organization that uses it equipment to manipulate if not terrorize the people, police brutality including the murder of Michael Brown (and two other people since then), police connected to KKK, no back ground checks on police (Wilson's former employer would have told us he and the unit he worked for had all been disbanned due to civil rights violations),a police chief who lied to the media and the people to protect a dirty cop, a crooked prosecutor who not only did not even try to get a trial but even knowingly allowed a mentally ill witness who was not even at the scene to give false testimony, and a governor who turns his back on this kind of corruption.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #53)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:15 AM

97. thank you for your post, jwirr.. I appreciate it. Well done.

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Response to Cha (Reply #97)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:37 AM

123. Glad to. I do not think there is any defense for Ferguson MO. They need to change their ways.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:55 PM

32. "You can truly judge a person's character in a time of crisis.. Gov Pataki Failed Last Night.

By Mashable @mashable
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You can truly judge a person’s character in a time of crisis. @GovernorPataki failed the test last night. http://mashable.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-officers-shot/?utm_cid=hp-hh-pri
5:21 AM - 21 Dec 2014 137 Retweets 102 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/21/chat-on-58/#comments

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:57 PM

33. So true

And white people threatening the police are exercising their First and Second Amendment rights and somehow don't end up killed.

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Response to treestar (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:09 PM

34. So many innocent Black People get killed by the Police and the Police refuse to accept that..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:12 PM

35. K

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:16 PM

36. Kick for those who can't.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:33 PM

37. So sad Cha...

Two more families grieving for there loss in another senseless killing. This needs to stop. #BlackLivesMatter agrees.

for Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:37 PM

38. Yes, everyone who has a heart agrees, she. The Problem is our US corporateMediaWhoredom that

doesn't treat all killers and deaths the same.

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Response to Cha (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:58 PM

49. I agree 100% on that one Cha!

Sad that~

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #49)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:00 PM

50. Social Networking is doing our best to Change it.. long hard road ahead. But, We'll Never Give UP.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:38 PM

39. Exactly.

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Response to tosh (Reply #39)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:43 PM

40. We've got to change that, tosh. :(

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:44 PM

41. And only in the right wing can white guys with automatic rifles

Draw down on federal agents while hiding behind concrete barricades and itching for the feds to shoot first.

That's OK.

If Black guys did it for identical reasons you'd think Helter Skelter just broke out.

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Response to Gman (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:46 PM

42. Of course, Gman..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:46 PM

43. still kicking

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:51 PM

44. ..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:52 PM

46. Sorry....you and I agree about 99% of the time about things on this site, but....

...on this one I don't agree.

That bastard yesterday has not been connected to his entire race, and he has almost universally (I haven't read otherwise) been considered a bitter "lone wolf".

I wonder if in Hell he realizes that neither of the two officers he executed yesterday afternoon were white?

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Response to George II (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:57 PM

48. I agree he's a lone wolf but rw politicians are trying to connect him to all the #BlackLivesMatter

Protestors, Mayor de Blasio, AG Holder, and President Obama. And, the US corportatemediawhores do say this about White Shooters.

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Response to Cha (Reply #48)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:17 PM

52. I haven't seen that, but I haven't watched RW garbage this weekend, so may have missed....

....their take on the murders.

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Response to George II (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:12 AM

73. I don't have a tv but it's been all over DU.. I posted one, myself.

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Response to George II (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:08 PM

166. You obviously didn't hear the shit spewing out of Pataki and Ghouliani.

I wish you were right about the lone nut explanation being "almost universally accepted," but a perusal of any comment section on any news site is vomit inducing.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:06 PM

51. KICK

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:24 PM

54. Yep, well said, Sally Kohn...

thanks for posting this, Cha, it needs to be said for sure.

RIP Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu

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Response to Spazito (Reply #54)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:22 PM

60. Mahalo Spazito.. it's only obvious. There are many who have been paying attention that

get this.

Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu~

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:25 PM

55. Not

 

Negative, primitive, Imitative



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Response to seveneyes (Reply #55)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:26 PM

137. I voted to leave this

 

in part so I could point out how stupid it is.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:35 PM

57. So true but they won't stop #BlackLivesMatter Protests

We aren't doing it we have had enough. Everyday a black person is killed by a cop in America. The Protest will continue despite right wing and some here who hope this tragedy in Brooklyn will stop them.

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Response to rbrnmw (Reply #57)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:34 PM

63. Good to hear that, rbrnmw!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:58 PM

58. I think you forgot something on that last one.....

White shooter = mentally troubled lone wolf=All the Mentally Ill are untrustworthy potential murderers

This one leads to laws that just end up stigmatizing us even more regardless of our race, gender, or creed.

It'd be nice for once if the status quo actually took our issues seriously.

But than hey it's like that Scott Walker staffer said "Nobody cares about crazy people,"

Please don't misunderstand me though, I don't mean to say that this issue with Ferguson and the shooting of unarmed black suspects by some incredibly ill trained and bigoted white police officers isn't an important issue. It absolutely is, however much in the same way that Black Americans seem to have the sins of a handful of gang members thrown on them despite how law abiding they are so too are the Mentally Ill judged and condemned collectively for the actions of a small group mass shooters. A number which don't even seem to have any history of Mental Illness.



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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:12 PM

67. I wholeheartedly agree, De Leonist.. Thank you for reminding us!

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:59 PM

59. Kick, Cha

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:45 PM

65. Mahalo Hekate~

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:28 PM

61. ..

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:07 PM

66. ..

mahalo hopemountain

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:39 PM

64. I'm awaiting for the opinion of an "Average Joe"

before I can make a decision TBH

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:22 PM

69. Anyone who's been paying attention to the US media knows this to be basically what's going on. :(

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:17 PM

68. K

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:34 PM

70. K

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:56 PM

71. K

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:09 AM

72. ..

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:19 AM

74. ..

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:29 AM

75. Uh-oh. Some kind of multiple post bug going on here? (nt)

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #75)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:57 AM

78. Kick!

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:59 AM

79. No. Feel free to return to griping about "those people"

 

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:29 AM

76. Muslim shooter: Al Qaeda? ISIS/ISIL? Muslim Brotherhood?

 

All strong and violent organizations in our present time. One can see how the mention of Islam would cause people to connect the religion with other violent Islamic organizations.

Black shooter=Entire Race Guilty is pure and simple racism. Good people understand that.

White shooter=Mentally Troubled Lone Wolf. Most of the school shooters and serial killers we have seen have been indeed this way. Large white supremist groups are not on the violence radar at the moment. (Were this the 1940s or 50s, that might be different.)

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:36 AM

77. No one can deny the truth of that....

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:13 AM

80. No, with a straight face if they've been paying attention, Aunt Patsy.. mahalo~

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:13 AM

81. i wish i could recommend this a thousand times

 

you're speaking truth, cha.

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Response to 1step (Reply #81)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:22 AM

82. Mahalo for K&R it, 1step! It's Sally Kohn's Tweet and I find it Truth to Power, too.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:33 AM

83. K'n'R

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:45 AM

85. Mahalo ucr~

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:36 AM

84. Many cops don't mind getting shot at by white people



apparently.

They never declare war on the population when whites kill cops, anyway.

I guess the bullet stings more, or has that DEMON quality about it when it's shot from a black guy's gun.


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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #84)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:03 AM

87. "They never declare war on the population when whites kill cops, anyway." Exactly, Tsiyu.. they

didn't declare war on the bundys and the White terrorists who killed those poor cops in Las Vegas.

But, now.. different story..no they're not racist cops. I feel bad for the Black Police who don't want to go along with this shite.

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Response to Cha (Reply #87)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:09 AM

88. I will guarantee you that most NYPD officers

are sick of this shit and just want to do their shift and go home to their families.
They know it's useless to fight against the corruption because the NYPD will make THEIR lives a living hell if they snitch.

I'm not excusing them one bit. I just think that the assholes trying to make this cop killing some "statement" are in the minority.

And yeah, there were idiots aiming guns at law enforcement FOR DAYS at Bundy ranch, and all the conservatives were wetting their pants with glee. SICK.

But a 12-year-old plays with a toy gun in a park and he doesn't even get 2 seconds of mercy. No glee - just a bunch of conservative whites happy to see another black human being shot dead.



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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #88)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:48 AM

89. Yes, you're right.. I should have said.. all the Police Officers who don't feel this way. As usual

the loud obnoxious ones are trying to set the tone here.



http://madamenoire.com/497811/wow-100-police-supporters-wear-can-breathe-t-shirts-new-york-city/

It's despicable the way some of the PD across America are not taking responsibility for the cops who are killing innocent Black People predominantly.. and lashing out at those who want Justice for their Victims.

And, the politicians like Pataki and Ghouliani who are adding Lying political fuel to the flames.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025987259

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Response to Cha (Reply #89)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:08 AM

95. can't those on the right mourn the deaths of officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu without MOCKING

those who were victims of police brutality ...






really pathetic







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Response to napkinz (Reply #95)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:17 AM

96. Sickening mock.. how damn dumb do you have to be to not see how wrong this is? :(

Mahalo for this napkinz.. it really helps to know what we're up against.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:41 AM

91. It's like that with other minorities as well.

Gays and pedophilia/AIDS, Jews and money/media/Israel...both groups get the shaft when one of our own do something bad, demands are made from our people to "speak out" and if they do, it is never the right way. It is defeating. It makes us feel less than, which is really the true actions of those who do it.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #91)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:54 AM

92. It most definitely is, BtA.. that's the way the US mediacorp rolls.. Thank you for reminding us

.. Sally Kohn didn't put all of the others who get treated like second class citizens in her tweet.. but, I have a feeling she would agree, too.

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Response to Cha (Reply #92)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:59 AM

93. It's even sadder when it isn't the media.

Too many make those comments and it is often reflected in various sites, including here. The media may feed it some, but it surely also works the other way too (the populace feeding the media).

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #93)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:06 AM

94. Too many ignorantly prejudiced people in our Country.. a lot of it has to come from fox "news" &

Limbaugh hate radio. These people might have inclinations and too easily led.

Hard for me to know exactly.. I know there were prejudiced people before fox et al were born.. so that was passed down from their ancestors.. seemingly.

My dad was but he didn't pass it down to nobody!

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:57 AM

98. ..

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:25 AM

99. Jon Stewart on Officers being lost in the line of duty..

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:42 AM

102. I see we have a "name removed" here.. thanks for the kick.. sorry you weren't polite enough to hang

around longer than a split second.

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Response to Cha (Reply #102)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:36 AM

133. That Is A Quite Prolific Poster

That name removed person. See that a lot here. BTW: Interesting thread.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #133)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:40 AM

135. LOL.. he's ubiquitous! mahalo, ProfessorGAC

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:19 AM

103. It's 100% wrong of NYPD union official to use horrible deaths of 2 NYPD officers as reason to..

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:06 AM

105. Only in racist America white people get away with murders they committed and black people..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:11 AM

106. Maybe in your head...

 

Now you are just stirring the pot with a smelly stick. If you've seen this meme of "Black shooter = entire race guilty" promoted in popular media, I challenge you to prove it.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #106)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:16 AM

107. I posted a tweet from Sally Kohn and most people get it.. I'm not concerned or surprised that you

don't.

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Response to Cha (Reply #107)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:40 PM

139. Of course you are unconcerned

 

I'm simply pointing out that your OP is untrue.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #139)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:31 PM

144. Her Op it a tweet.

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #144)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:35 PM

146. I understand that it is a tweet

 

Doesn't make it true, but it certainly promotes racial discord.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #146)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:42 PM

149. American life promotes racial discord.

 

We have never treated minorities fairly or without violence. Blacks have never existed in an America without racial discord. Admitting that and ending racism is up to America- especially white America.
We have been wronged since the days we arrived in pools of our own shit and vomit. We have been raped. Our children sold. Lynched. Lynched. Lynched. And treated as animals, locked in chains on the whims of white America.
Our society promoted racial discord. And when the shit hits the fan.... We blame black people for making us treat them like shit.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #149)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:58 PM

162. Well done, bravenak.. thank you for trying to explain it to the android.. I am not concerned what he

thinks because he predictably gets on these threads and tries to start shite. Just because he doesn't get it.. thank goodness so many do.

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Response to Cha (Reply #162)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:17 PM

168. The Android.....

 

Acts as his programming dictates.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #168)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:39 PM

170. Exactly. And, there's too much of that in America.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #139)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:54 PM

161. I'm not "concerned" about you not getting it because you're so predictable.

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Response to Cha (Reply #161)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:11 PM

171. Said the person stirring the pot with a smelly stick

 

You say "predictable" as if consistency in ethical and moral behavior were a bad thing.

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:14 PM

172. Always getting on threads to stir shite.. keep stirring android that's what you do.

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Response to Cha (Reply #172)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:31 PM

173. Going along to get along

 

'Sokay, Cha. I recognize that it's your way.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #173)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:36 PM

174. Keep digging

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Response to Cha (Reply #174)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:47 PM

177. Good lord....

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #177)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:54 PM

179. Rofl!

You crack me up!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:22 AM

108. I was thinking about the difference in reaction to the cop killings by the Bundy ranch guy

and the latest cop killings in NYC. While they are equally bad and horrible events, I don't recall the actions of the white guy being blamed on anyone other than the nutty white guy. The black guy in NYC, who was reportedly mentally ill as well as a criminal, has been dropped on the door step of Obama, the Mayor and any liberal who protests the excessive use of force by police (aka murder).

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Response to Vinca (Reply #108)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:26 AM

110. Exactly Vinca. The racist reaction from some of the NYPD is despicable.


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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:22 AM

109. Exactly and here is a recent example

Just a few months ago, a white survivalist nut kills one PA State trooper and wounds another. He leads state, local, and federal authorities on something like a 39-day manhunt, terrorizing the local communities around the Poconos, and costing taxpayers millions. The result? The caption tells all -



There were no media demands from "white leaders" to work with "their" communities to stem a problem of "white survivalist hysteria".

Meanwhile, one state away, a black guy selling loose cigarettes was tackled by 6 officers and choked to death. He killed no one didn't threaten to kill anyone, but his life was deemed irrelevant.

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:34 AM

112. Thanks for providing this glaring example, BRDS. Here's another from this tweet pic..


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Okay media, got it.
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I would think the PAPD would want to have a talk with the Survivalists about their deadly hysteria. Same with the PD in LV regarding the two police killed there and the other person who was killed because of the Bundy fringe element hysteria.

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Response to Cha (Reply #112)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:09 PM

167. And what about that psychopath who was ALSO in New York? Who killed his sister, set the house

on fire and waited for the fire department/cops to come and then shot at and killed them.

An off-duty police officer, who happened on the scene, returned gunfire and sheltered firefighters with his car, Pickering said.

"Had the police officer not been there, more people would have been killed because he immediately engaged the shooter with a rifle," he said. "Essentially, it was a combat condition." Investigators won't know until after an autopsy if any of his shots hit Spengler, he said.


http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-firefighter-shooting/

Was there "we're at WAR!!!1" talk after this either?

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Response to Number23 (Reply #167)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:33 PM

169. NO, 23.. No mention of "War" on White People because this White killer wanted to go to "War" on

police and firefighters.

These Racist Police in NY now who are clamoring for this are a disgrace and a cancer on their department.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:53 AM

113. Support @deBlasioNYC in the face of the right wing race hate machine.


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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:18 AM

114. Remember this story and all the backlash towards white people. No? Neither do I. :(


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No? Neither do I.

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Response to Cha (Reply #114)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:51 PM

150. In fact thanks for the reminder

The media hasn't mentioned that case much.

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Response to treestar (Reply #150)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:47 PM

157. Of course the US "media" hasn't, treestar.. the point of Sally Kohn's Tweet exactly. :(

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:17 AM

120. To the klanservative whites are naturally benign by default and every one else is criminal

unless proven otherwise. It's a double standard that is clearly pushed by the corporate media and the Republican party. Bigotry is a central component of being a conservative. You can't be a good Republican without being a White Christian supremacist bigot, period.

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Response to mb999 (Reply #120)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:25 AM

122. Sorry to say it really freaking looks that way, mb, thank you.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:19 AM

121. Sadly, this appears to be true K&R

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:49 AM

127. forgotten on the list

Forgot the obvious one

Police Shooter = All Police guilty

No racial distinction needed as all are inclusive in police ranks

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Response to DustyJoe (Reply #127)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:50 AM

128. No, that wasn't forgotten because it's not true.

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:55 AM

129. Don't use the NYPD tragedy to try and silence those who just want to be treated equally..

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:55 AM

130. The whole race is guilty is

 

tribalism/racist and yeah the white guy is a loner...don't blame us!

You see this in the news media time after time.

Its institutional, baked into the system, and its wrong.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #130)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:04 AM

131. I can imagine, workingclasszero..not having a tv myself.. but, seeing it reported on the net. mahalo

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:26 AM

132. ..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:37 AM

134. There is even a name for this.


Outgroup Homogeneity

A close cousin of assimilation is the "outgroup homogeneity effect." In the language of social psychology, an "ingroup" is a group to which someone belongs, and an "outgroup" is a group to which the person does not belong (hence, one person's ingroup may be another person's outgroup, and vice versa). Research on the outgroup homogeneity effect has found that when it comes to attitudes, values, personality traits, and other characteristics, people tend to see outgroup members as more alike than ingroup members. As a result, outgroup members are at risk of being seen as interchangeable or expendable, and they are more likely to be stereotyped. This perception of sameness holds true regardless of whether the outgroup is another race, religion, nationality, college major, or other naturally occurring group (Linville, 1998).


http://www.understandingprejudice.org/apa/english/page6.htm

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:18 PM

136. K

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:19 PM

138. Tell it like it is. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #138)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:39 PM

156. Really.. this is on the US "media..Thanks to Sally Kohn.. mahalo MADem~

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:45 PM

140. Watch the Sony Hack turn out to be some white guy.

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:12 PM

142. Yes this is perfect

I'll be forwarding this to everybody

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Response to winterwar (Reply #142)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:52 PM

160. mahalo winterwar.. agree :(

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:31 PM

145. kick for truth

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #145)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:59 PM

163. Mahalo Blue Tires~

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:42 PM

148. One of the many privileges of being a member of a privileged class is that you can be *who* you are

 

without people constantly belittling or attacking or criticizing you for *what* you are.

White privilege, male privilege, and other forms of social privilege are invisible to those who have those privileges.

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Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:56 PM

154. Who will speak up for the poor, downtrodden white male?? Will he EVER get a break??

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #154)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:02 PM

165. They sure like the same user name.. and they don't ever stick around. Rolf

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Response to Cha (Reply #165)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 12:00 PM

180. I regret not seeing that response before it was removed

 

NOT!

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Response to YoungDemCA (Reply #148)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:01 PM

164. Good point, YoungDemCA

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:35 PM

151. kick

nt



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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:28 PM

155. Kicking!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:50 PM

159. K & R

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:44 PM

175. The dangling thread of a participle

 

In an attempt to participate in the healing and antithetical replacement of an earlier deviation from the reality of the problem...

[Love]
You'll find me here whenever they oppose you
I am the strongest of them all
No need to fear these feelings that enclose you
I'm here to catch you when you fall

You're not alone
I am here dancing to your tune

[Passion] Can't you feel it burn
Deep down inside?
Won't you ever learn
Don't try to hide

&list=PL148912C5ED2D102A&index=2
Can't you feel that fire?
Scorching your soul?
A wounded man's desire
Out of control

[Pride] I can't believe you're giving up
That's not your way
I can't believe you'd pass the chance to make them pay

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #175)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:47 PM

176. Keep kicking

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Response to Cha (Reply #176)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:50 PM

178. Bringing on the Pain

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 12:57 PM

181. Good thread.

Sally Kohn has boiled this entire issue (as viewed from a rightwing douchebag's point of view) down to dah bone!!

I am so sick of entire peoples being blamed whenever a non-white commits a crime, it isn't even funny.

On Monday night, the news anchor for CBS News talked to the police commissioner about the shooter of those 2 cops in New York, but without ever mentioning that he was mentally ill.

It is just yet another example of how low the level of mainstream media in this country has fallen in the last 16 to 18 years.
Ever since the foaming-at-the-mouth, rightwing Republicans went after President Clinton in 1998 to impeach him, is when the rest of the MSM started using Faux Snooze tactics at all of the other news organizations that used to be respected!
Walter Cronkite must have been rolling in his grave.

No wonder there are more white supremacy groups in this country now!!

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #181)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:32 PM

182. Talk about well done.. your sentence, "Sally Kohn has boiled this entire issue (as viewed from a

rightwing douchebag's point of view) down to dah bone!!" nailed it!.. thanks Major. Can you believe there's a couple on this thread who are refusing to accept this? Yeah, I guess you can.

Just your example of CBS is just one aspect of what Sally Kohn and everyone else who's been paying attention is talking about.

Walter Cronkite would most certainly be disgusted!





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