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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:43 PM

Remember when conservatives CONDONED threats against law enforcement officers?







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Reply Remember when conservatives CONDONED threats against law enforcement officers? (Original post)
napkinz Dec 2014 OP
Cha Dec 2014 #1
napkinz Dec 2014 #3
Cha Dec 2014 #4
napkinz Dec 2014 #6
AngryDem001 Dec 2014 #27
Blanks Dec 2014 #41
napkinz Dec 2014 #42
billhicks76 Dec 2014 #28
napkinz Dec 2014 #33
NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #2
napkinz Dec 2014 #9
NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #10
KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #19
kelly1mm Dec 2014 #51
Sopkoviak Dec 2014 #5
Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #7
JHB Dec 2014 #12
napkinz Dec 2014 #13
dhill926 Dec 2014 #8
napkinz Dec 2014 #16
AngryDem001 Dec 2014 #26
napkinz Dec 2014 #30
AngryDem001 Dec 2014 #31
napkinz Dec 2014 #32
madville Dec 2014 #11
True Blue Door Dec 2014 #14
napkinz Dec 2014 #17
kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #64
True Blue Door Dec 2014 #65
napkinz Dec 2014 #68
True Blue Door Dec 2014 #69
seveneyes Dec 2014 #15
951-Riverside Dec 2014 #18
napkinz Dec 2014 #20
Wellstone ruled Dec 2014 #29
napkinz Dec 2014 #38
aikoaiko Dec 2014 #21
napkinz Dec 2014 #43
aikoaiko Dec 2014 #45
napkinz Dec 2014 #47
kelly1mm Dec 2014 #52
napkinz Dec 2014 #58
kelly1mm Dec 2014 #63
aikoaiko Dec 2014 #55
toddwv Dec 2014 #22
napkinz Dec 2014 #23
lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #24
napkinz Dec 2014 #25
Rex Dec 2014 #34
napkinz Dec 2014 #39
WhiteAndNerdy Dec 2014 #35
napkinz Dec 2014 #40
Joe Magarac Dec 2014 #36
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #37
napkinz Dec 2014 #48
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #54
napkinz Dec 2014 #57
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #62
napkinz Dec 2014 #66
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #67
napkinz Dec 2014 #70
malaise Dec 2014 #44
napkinz Dec 2014 #50
KamaAina Dec 2014 #46
napkinz Dec 2014 #49
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #71
napkinz Dec 2014 #72
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #73
sheshe2 Dec 2014 #53
napkinz Dec 2014 #56
sheshe2 Dec 2014 #59
napkinz Dec 2014 #60
sheshe2 Dec 2014 #61

Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:45 PM

1. Excellent reminder, napkinz! And, the two poor cops in Las Vegas killed by those bundy fringe

assholes.

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:51 PM

3. Fox's Hannity Provokes Cliven Bundy Toward Bloody Battle






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Response to napkinz (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:55 PM

4. Exactly. :( Thank you.

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:57 PM

6. where was Rudy, Geraldo, and the rest of them back then?

did anyone on the right call out Hannity on it?




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Response to napkinz (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:24 PM

27. UGH! I wish I could smack that stupid, smug grin

right off his stupid, smug face.

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Response to AngryDem001 (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 11:42 AM

41. I know. He's the worst of the worst. eom

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Response to Blanks (Reply #41)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:05 PM

42. ...







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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:39 PM

28. We Need To Hold Guiliani Accountable

 

Remind him and shame him and Hannity on TV for saying nothing and even encouraging Bundy supporters for their cop killings. It's pathetic. On FOX they suggest armed insurrection all the time. Cops would have to oppose them besides the few racist crazy ones. These idiots on FOX need to be called out.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:12 AM

33. America's Mayor ...






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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:45 PM

2. Every single person aiming those rifles need to be in federal prison for 20 yrs minimum

otherwise this country's justice system is the biggest joke known to humankind

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:09 PM

9. I wonder what the sniper in that picture is thinking as he watches from the comfort of

his home the story of the NY officers murdered

(doubt there is any self-awareness)





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Response to napkinz (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:12 PM

10. He is a hypocrite for sure, but some of these types are so extreme, the Alex Jones group

that they might even support a black person killing a cop, who knows.

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:17 PM

19. At the level of the individual right-winger, there are various degrees of

 

cognitive dissonance raging. To wit, one of the deceased NYPD cops is Asian (Liu) and the other is Latino (Ramos). BUT the alleged shooter is black. So does hatred of 'black' trump anti-Asian and anti-Latino racism or vice versa? That's aside from the cognitive dissonance baked in to cop as legitimate enforcer of law (NYPD is municipal so OK) vs. cop as illegitimate representative of tyranny (BLM officers are federal so not OK).

My suspicion is that the cognitive dissonance (basically, psychic anxiety produced by holding 2 or more contradictory positions) gets resolved (basically lessened) by legitimizing municipal cops' authority and weighting heavily toward the anti-black racism (thereby letting the anti-Asian and anti-Latino racism go for the duration of this incident).

But that's just a layperson's guess.

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:14 PM

51. What would be the charge? nt

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:55 PM

5. And how about when Palin and Limbaugh basically pulled the trigger

 

On Gabby Giffords?

And just last week the rethugs finished stealing the district from her hand-picked successor

Bastards all of them.

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Response to Sopkoviak (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:04 PM

7. I do not accept McSally's "win" as legitimate.

The voter ID laws allowed for many to be turned away and others to have their ballots disguarded.

Martha McSally is a disgrace.

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Response to Sopkoviak (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:19 PM

12. Let's not forget that many are still fond of GGordo...


"Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests." ... "They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches." -- G. Gordon Liddy on his radio show, August 26, 1994

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Response to JHB (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:25 PM

13. waiting to hear from Ted







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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:05 PM

8. we do...

does anyone else...

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:51 PM

16. will the MSM?

or will they follow FOX "News"




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Response to napkinz (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:21 PM

26. Do you even have to ask?

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Response to AngryDem001 (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:47 PM

30. that LIBERAL media!





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Response to napkinz (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:51 PM

31. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

And they really THINK that, too!!

MSNBC lost any shred of "LIBRULISM" when they canned Keith Olbermann.

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Response to AngryDem001 (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:51 AM

32. ...






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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:15 PM

11. Every spent any time on conservative forums?

1/3 there are police/government-hating Libertarians, 1/3 are military, and 1/3 are law enforcement, they all butt heads pretty regularly.

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Response to madville (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:38 PM

14. But they all hate black people a lot more than they resent each other.

Conservatives are such degenerate, low, visceral people that they just can't see past their basest reactions to everything.

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Response to True Blue Door (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:01 PM

17. one conservative speaks the truth ...








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Response to True Blue Door (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:36 PM

64. Although American blacks share much more in common with American whites than any other

 

group in America especially compared to those recently coming to these shores in the last 50 years...they are despised the most. It's easy for whites of all ethnicities to overlook the gangs and organized crime groups of other than black ethnicity. They all seem to focus on only black criminals and black on black crime as though it was a threat to them. You hardly ever hear about white on white crime...the militia's bank robberies, thefts of government property, and certainly white collar crimes that ultimately screw over working men and women of all backgrounds.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #64)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:05 PM

65. Conservatives live in their own little KKK alternate universe.

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Response to True Blue Door (Reply #65)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:22 PM

68. they will have control of both the Senate and House in January

that alternate universe is now our universe for the next two years ... and heaven help us if they win the presidency in 2016





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Response to napkinz (Reply #68)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:26 PM

69. They control nothing. All they can ever do is obstruct.

Even when they had all three, they were spectacularly impotent to do anything more than refuse to govern.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:42 PM

15. power is the rate of doing work

 

It is equivalent to an amount of energy consumed per unit time

time is a variable. We do not understand time, much less motion or existence.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:03 PM

18. I do.

 

#Originally posted May 7, 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024917650

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Link: https://twitter.com/3_patton/status/463767111823663104

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Just a few days ago Sheriff Lombardo spoke to the media about his frightening experience at the Bundy Ranch

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25396688/i-team-police-say-bundy-ranch-protesters-not-off-the-hook

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Response to 951-Riverside (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:20 PM

20. from the article ...

At least some of the militia members who pointed weapons at police officers during the confrontation may have wanted a violent outcome and tried to incite one.

-snip-

On one side, armed federal rangers and agents, on the other, a huge crowd of angry militia members and in the middle, 30 Metro officers, exposed and vulnerable, aware that if the shooting began, some of them would die.

And Hannity and his cohorts were praising these terrorists as American patriots.








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Response to 951-Riverside (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:42 PM

29. And we have channel CBS 8 here in Vegas

fanning the flames as of Friday. They or should we say their Neo-Con owners are starting this Western Range Land ownership crap again with a Bundy stand up interview. Noticed this Right Wing so called Rancher was running his cattle back on BLM land again. Lambardo had his legs whacked by his boss and another slacker in his Department. BTW,haven't heard if Bundy's son has been arrested yet,probation and firearms violations. Major shit storm to come.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:47 AM

38. do you have a link to the story?

you could start a new thread and share this story with other members




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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:24 PM

21. You can see all those LEO just ignoring him.



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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:16 PM

43. if Eric Parker were African-American, can you imagine what the response would have been ...






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Response to napkinz (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:18 PM

45. Yes, nothing because there were no LEO on the bridge.


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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #45)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:21 PM

47. why TODAY is he not under arrest?

Is this not a crime?




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Response to napkinz (Reply #47)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:20 PM

52. What criminal statute would you charge him with? nt

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Response to kelly1mm (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:50 PM

58. I'm asking ... is there a law against aiming at federal officers, threatening to kill them?

?



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Response to napkinz (Reply #58)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:30 PM

63. I am not aware of anything they can be charged with for just what they are shown doing which is

looking through a scope. Would the federal officers feel threatened if they knew this guy way scoping them? Almost definitely. But I don't believe making officers feel threatened is a crime, in and of itself.

Maybe brandishing a firearm?

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Response to napkinz (Reply #47)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:28 PM

55. There probably isn't enough evidence that he was pointing at LEO.


But you can bet your bottom dollar a boot would have been on his neck had there been LEO there.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:36 PM

22. Don't forget Jerad Miller

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jun/09/neighbors-couple-suspected-las-vegas-killing-spree/

Hours after a man and woman killed two police officers at an east Las Vegas pizza restaurant and then gunned down another victim at a nearby Wal-Mart before killing themselves, a picture of the shooters began to emerge.

Residents at an apartment complex where it appeared the two lived together said they had a reputation for spouting racist, anti-government views, bragging about their gun collection and boasting that they’d spent time at Cliven Bundy’s ranch during a recent standoff there between armed militia members and federal government agents.



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Response to toddwv (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:48 PM

23. now for all the right-wing talk of Mayor Bill de Blasio having blood on his hands ...

Hannity embraced the Bundy militia, of which Jerad Miller was a member.

So does Hannity have blood on his hands?

Do conservatives have an answer?




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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:51 PM

24. See G. Gordon Liddy

 

August 25, 1986: Liddy's felony convictions rendered him unable to legally possess firearms. Despite this, Liddy founded G. Gordon Liddy & Associates, a private security firm. When asked how he was able to maintain such a close relationship with guns despite his status as a convicted felon, Liddy replied, "Mrs. Liddy has an extensive collection of firearms, some of which she keeps on my side of the bed."[24]
August 26, 1994: Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests." … "They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches.[25]
September 15, 1994: If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head.[26]

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:19 AM

34. Foxnews hailed Clive Bundy as a modern day Ronald Reagan.

 

Even after he opened his mouth and let his inner racist out, Foxnews already had all the clips it needed to put together a good propaganda piece about the scary commie government. Bundy then was portrayed as the ignorant (but noble) rancher cowboy that just was out of touch - but still a good guy (because he waved guns at cops).

Then again, just about anything that can have a double standard...is SOP for Foxnews.

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Response to Rex (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:02 AM

39. FOX has a history of trying to make despicable people and criminals into heroes ...

Clive Bundy, George Zimmerman, Darren Wilson ... Dick Cheney




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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:23 AM

35. Yes, conservatives and their "Second Amendment solutions."

They talk a lot about the right to keep and bear arms as a way to defend themselves from tyranny, but the truth is that they actually share the aggressive, authoritarian mindset of some police. They just want to be the tyrants themselves.

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Response to WhiteAndNerdy (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:34 AM

40. "right to keep and bear arms as a way to defend themselves from tyranny"

that's their mantra



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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:10 AM

36. There never was a time when conservative *cops* thought it was OK. n/t

 

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:51 AM

37. Kicked and recommended! It was but a short time ago.

Can you say double standard?

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:31 PM

48. double standard ... and MAJOR HYPOCRISY!

and short-term memory












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Response to napkinz (Reply #48)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:10 PM

54. +1

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:49 PM

57. ...






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Response to napkinz (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:16 PM

62. Cliven Bundy is an expert on "The Negro".

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #62)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:26 PM

66. Stewart's reaction ...







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Response to napkinz (Reply #66)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:53 PM

67. That was awesome.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #67)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:52 PM

70. can't leave out Colbert!





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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:18 PM

44. I don't plan to forget

and no one else should ever forget

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Response to malaise (Reply #44)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:50 PM

50. FOX "News" has forgotten

as the Church Lady would say ...









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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:20 PM

46. Condoned? Hell, they made them on hate radio!

 

http://fair.org/take-action/action-alerts/did-msnbc-know-liddys-history/

In an April 27 debate about extreme talk radio rhetoric, MSNBC's Scarborough Country turned to an unusual guest: right-wing talker G. Gordon Liddy, who ten years ago called for the killing of federal agents....

That would mean that Liddy has not listened to his own program. On August 26, 1994, Liddy told his radio listeners: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests." Liddy's advice that day was explicit: "They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches."

This was far from an isolated incident. On September 15, 1994, for example, Liddy told his listeners: "If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head." The theme was repeated so often that Liddy's callers began to exclaim "head shots!" to express their agreement with the host, the way Rush Limbaugh's callers say "megadittos."

After Liddy's talk of shooting federal agents received media attention, in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing (London Independent, 4/24/95), some stations dropped Liddy's program. In a press conference responding to the controversy (Associated Press, 4/25/95), Liddy clarified his advice by noting that shooting a federal agent in the head might not be the ideal plan: "So you shoot twice to the body, center of mass, and if that does not work, then shoot to the groin area."




(h/t Will Pitt )

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:42 PM

49. some condoned, others embraced and encouraged and promoted

I didn't know about Liddy's comments until other members replied to this thread. What a sick f*ck!

Why isn't he BACK in prison?





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Response to KamaAina (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:30 AM

71. The Righties® are allowed to say anything.

We live in a special society. You know, American exceptionalism and stuff. No one more exceptional than G. Gordon Liddy.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #71)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:34 AM

72. thread on Liddy posted by WilliamPitt

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Response to napkinz (Reply #72)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:47 AM

73. He can say anything with completely impunity. We would have the FBI at our door.

Something is afoot.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:50 PM

53. KnR

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #53)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:47 PM

56. Jerad Miller, a member of the conservative-supported Bundy militia, murdered two police officers ...



























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Response to napkinz (Reply #56)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:56 PM

59. Just plain ugly...

and truly evil, napkinz.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #59)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:00 PM

60. where were the media calling out the conservatives who EMBRACED the Bundy militia

and its threats against federal officers, and then the murder of two police officers by members of the Bundy militia?

as another member said, DOUBLE STANDARD






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Response to napkinz (Reply #60)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:05 PM

61. Yup!

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