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Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:14 AM

Police union chief calls killing of 12-year-old justified

Video at link.

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/police-union-chief-tamir-rice-killing-justified-373082691506?CID=SM_TW

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Reply Police union chief calls killing of 12-year-old justified (Original post)
UglyGreed Dec 2014 OP
peacebird Dec 2014 #1
UglyGreed Dec 2014 #2
deutsey Dec 2014 #4
OneGrassRoot Dec 2014 #6
Octafish Dec 2014 #12
FarPoint Dec 2014 #3
OneGrassRoot Dec 2014 #5
malaise Dec 2014 #7
SamKnause Dec 2014 #8
sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #15
SamKnause Dec 2014 #19
sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #20
SamKnause Dec 2014 #21
cvoogt Dec 2014 #9
sulphurdunn Dec 2014 #10
spanone Dec 2014 #11
Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #13
bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #14
workinclasszero Dec 2014 #16
justiceischeap Dec 2014 #17
sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #18
RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #23
RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #22
UglyGreed Dec 2014 #24

Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:25 AM

1. It's always justified if a cop kills, isn't it? He was in fear for his life, split second decision..

Are these guys all Deputy Barney Fife, or what?

Maybe we should quit hiring quisling cowards and giving them guns?

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Response to peacebird (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:26 AM

2. I found this interview very disturbing N/T

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Response to UglyGreed (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:00 AM

4. Yeah, his underlying message seemed to be

"Just shut up and do what we tell you."

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Response to deutsey (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:13 AM

6. Yep. That "obey or else" authoritarian mantra is ingrained now, it seems. :( n/t

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:21 PM

12. September 11 changed everything.

USA PATRIOT Act must've secretly federalized and immunized the police, seeing how they now get away with murder.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:33 AM

3. This attitude diminished the Union credibility to an all time low.

That said, the Police Unions are already stacked with Pro Management anyways.. Essentially useless these days.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:13 AM

5. Ari did a good job, imho. I have a question though...

This is at least the second PD union rep, the other being NYPD, who have made asinine, infuriating statements criticizing protesters and anyone who speaks up.

I support unions. Certainly I'm aware that any organization can be corrupted by money, power, whatever, and that just because someone represents a union doesn't make them right, or even necessarily representing the majority of the union members in their statements.

But if these guys are truly representative of police unions, I'd like to understand the purpose of police unions these days because it doesn't seem to be comparable to other labor unions as far as purpose.

Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:16 AM

7. I saw that live

He sounded like the grand marshal of the KKK and a neo-Nazi militia goon wrapped up in one.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:15 AM

8. And the leader of the KKK Cleveland Police Union speaks.

Who was more respectful and impressive in that video ?

Who sounded more reasonable ?

Which person would you feel the safest around ?

Who in the video had an agenda ?

Who in the video seemed genuinely concerned about the actions of the police ?

It took a despicable arrogance and air of superiority to go on national TV and sit there with a straight face and defend the assassination of a 12 year old boy.

I am a 61 year old white female.

I am sick of these white men with their shaved heads and Nazi techniques terrorizing this nation.

They are cowards.

When the shit hits the fan the only people they will protect will be themselves.



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Response to SamKnause (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:00 PM

15. Not to mention that the killer cop had been forced to retire from his

previous job and the current bosses who hired him, claim they were not sure if they were aware of his 'history'.

So, either they liked the fact that he was forced out because of his instability or they were so incompetent they armed someone whose history shows he never should have been given that kind of power. Either way, it was a fatal decision for a 12 year old child and his family.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:25 PM

19. Exactly.

He told them he had worked at another police force but they didn't bother to do a background check on him.

He feel asleep during firearms training.

He was emotional and cried frequently.

No one that fits this description should be policing anyone.

That beautiful little boy is dead and those bastards should be prosecuted.

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:29 PM

20. The report on him also stated that he could not be trained

no matter how much time they might give, and recommended he be terminated from the department.

They gave him a choice, be fired or resign. So he resigned.

And in their wisdom, the Cleveland PD hired him.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:34 PM

21. I know.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:48 PM

9. murderous copwards.

/nt

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:56 PM

10. Comply or die.

 

If you comply and still die, you failed to comply soon enough.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:09 PM

11. a moran

this idiot should speak for no one.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:26 PM

13. showing his ignorance. he may have rationalized it in his own mind but, in no way can he justify it.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:56 PM

14. Watched the interview last night - what a despicable thug this guy was. Couldn't

even display, if only for the cameras, the slightest shred of empathy for the family members of those killed.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:07 PM

16. So the difference between this scum pig who justifies

 

the murder of innocent 12 year olds and our sworn enemies the taiban who just murdered 100 plus innocent school kids in Afghanistan is....?????

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:08 PM

17. Is it true what he said that the city prosecutors already cleared the two officers in the Rice

shooting? And declared it a lawful shoot?

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:16 PM

18. I would have to listen to it again, but it sounded like he referred to a 12 year old

child as a 'man' near the end of the interview.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 03:54 PM

23. He identifies him as a male

that the police assumed was 20 years old, then refers to him as a 20 year old man.

He's full of shit and out of touch.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 03:52 PM

22. Police union chief is painfully fucking stupid

Wow. I could barely watch that. Pathetic piece of trash.

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Response to UglyGreed (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:36 AM

24. TYT hits the bullseye

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