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Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:38 PM

There's depression here

We don't know why the Dems didn't come out to vote. They didn't even know about Citibank at the time of the election.

We're all disappointed in our elected officials. Low wages, lousy jobs, health care somewhat inadequate under Medicare, WAR that will never end, drones, black injustice, protests permitted but not effective, just tolerated, ebola, torture of prisoners, terrorism, ISIS, Cheney still loose, and I, I don't know about you, feel sort of lost.

We had such faith at the beginning. True, Obama had some great successes, but none helped the majority. Gay rights was good, as well as equal rights for women, proclaimed if not achieved, and costs of everything except gasoline has just about doubled - beef, bread, butter, etc., you name it.

We are getting our hopes set on Warren. She's not perfect....some have said that they are disappointed in her lack of sympathy for Palestinians or for a state for them. There are enough people who are for it, and it will come.

Sorry for complaining so much. But if not here, where?

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Response to fadedrose (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:47 PM

1. All of life is not what you posted above.

Sure much of it is but it is just as important to spend time with what is good in the world.
Take time out and turn off the politics.
I think we need to also be grateful for any of the good things in life. Being grateful and having generosity is to me something that makes my world better.
You can't forget about those things you posted but take some time off.

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Response to fadedrose (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:50 PM

2. there is a problem with

turning off politics. When we do that the only thing we accomplish is not knowing how screwn we're getting.

the bad guys never stop, 24/7/365

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:55 PM

5. you think the bad guys never use some of that income they steal from the rest of the

country to go on a vacation? Of course they do. We should take take to relax and recharge or we get burned out and have nothing left for the fight, and we are going to need our strength for the fight ahead.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:08 PM

6. The Bush administration was better at allowing protesters than the Obama administration.

I remember protesting the Iraq War. Never a single problem. I was too afraid to protest at OWS protests. It is shameful the way this Democratic Presidential administration handled protesters.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:20 PM

9. I don't know if it's the Democratic Admin. that is to blame

 

I think it may have more to do with the steady militarization of cops, happening over time with
military hardware from ME wars, that hadn't yet reached such a critical mass under Bush.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:22 PM

11. The Justice Department held some of those protesters for a very long time.

The cops are part of the problem, but the Justice Department is also part of the problem.

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Response to fadedrose (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:53 PM

4. i think a lot of people feel lost…or at loose ends

and it's a dangerous to place to be. this is exactly the kind of (generic, economic) "depression" that can usher in reactionary leadership.

people need to see that these things you mention WILL get better -- and there's plenty of low information american voters who'd gladly hand the country over to a Ted Cruz if they thought he'd deliver change.

i seriously doubt we can win a national election with more of the same of Obama-style governing, which is what Hillary will be -- and will be perceived as (best case).

and yes, this is exactly the right place to work these things out. they're the thoughts that keep us up at night, i know!

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Response to fadedrose (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:14 PM

7. No one person is going to save us.

He/she will need a lot of help.

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Response to fadedrose (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:15 PM

8. there is no depression with me, i know exactly why the election happened as it did

and it was nothing new or unexpected

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Response to fadedrose (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:21 PM

10. I like this paragraph:

 

We had such faith at the beginning. True, Obama had some great successes, but none helped the majority. Gay rights was good, as well as equal rights for women, proclaimed if not achieved, and costs of everything except gasoline has just about doubled - beef, bread, butter, etc., you name it.



Pretty much says it all.

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