37 million bees found dead in Canada

[lovuian]

http://www.healthyfoodhouse.com/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/

[dixiegrrrrl]

1. Because of GMO corn...important point.

Large fields in Ontario, Canada, were planted with GMO corn and millions of dead bees were the result of that action. To be more precise, Dave Schuit, a local bee keeper in Elmwood, lost about 37 million bees, or about 600 hives, which affected his production greatly.

“Once the corn started to get planted our bees died by the millions,” Schuit explained.

What is more devastating, while bee keepers blame the neonicotionids or “neonics” for the massive bee deaths and many countries in EU have banned neonicotionid class of pesticides, the US Department of Agriculture still has not banned the neonicotionoids manufactured by Bayer CropScience Inc.

Researchers claim that two of Bayer’s best-selling insecticides, Imidacloprid and Clothianidin, are able to get into pollen and nectar, and damage any beneficial insects, let’s take bees for an example. The marketing of these pesticides coincided with the high death rates in EU countries and the US.

[Control-Z]

2. What the hell is this supposed to mean?

Scientists have long struggled to find the real cause of the massive deaths, a phenomenon they call “colony collapse disorder” (CCD).

And this:

The number of honeybees in the US keeps decreasing, a situation that lasts for seven years.

[cleanhippie]

4. I think it means anti-GMO folks are at it again.

Which really only hurts their cause when they fabricate and misrepresent.

http://www.snopes.com/food/tainted/gmobeedeaths.asp

[cleanhippie]

3. Considering the website linked in the OP and the source that website gives for the story...

which don't tend to lend much credibility to the claim, and then with Snopes.com showing that this is at best, an over-stated exaggeration...

http://www.snopes.com/food/tainted/gmobeedeaths.asp

[Archae]

19. Yeah, the website is nearly entirely pure woo.

[RiverLover]

5. You see why we are against GMO! This sucks.

Just heart-breaking...

[snooper2]

40. you really shouldn't believe everything you read on the intertubes

[RiverLover]

6. Another source~

GMO corn plantings lead to death of 37 million bees in Canada
Wednesday, November 26, 2014 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer

http://www.naturalnews.com/047771_GM_corn_neonicotinoids_honeybees.html

[SidDithers]

14. naturalnews... **shudder**...nt

Sid

[Odin2005]

36. LOL, the same idiots who think vaccines cause autism?

[Orrex]

41. Vaccines cause GMOs

[L0oniX]

7. Waiting for the pro GMO shills...

[RiverLover]

11. look above you

[Archae]

20. Why not? The Big Organic shills are already here...

[laundry_queen]

27. HAHAHAHAHAHA

holy fuck, thanks for the laugh. Big organic. LMAO! You gone dunnit now. You can never be taken seriously on DU after this.



Can you guys imagine a thread where people are defending the one percenters and someone comes in to talk about the poor and the 1%er supporter calls them, "The shills for Big Poor." It's about on that scale of ridiculousness.

[Kennah]

29. Don't laugh. Big Organic is the second cousin, twice removed, of The Big Lebowski.

[Arugula Latte]

43. I've heard of The Big O

but I thought it meant something else.

[LanternWaste]

35. Big Organic shills? More mythology coming from the Creative Team at the agency

Big Organic shills? More mythology coming from the Creative Team at the agency, or simply a petulant attempt at a false equivalency? Either way, bless your little heart... that's adorable.

[G_j]

51. Big Organic shills

seriously?

[Archae]

56. You really think all organic is just the typical Mom n' Pop farm?

I know of several large corporations that that have organic as a subsidiary of their lineups.

One that comes to mind right away is General Mills.

Organic *IS* a multi-billion $$$ enterprise.

Not just some hippies singing around a campfire.

[RiverLover]

8. And another source~

Beekeeper says pesticide killing millions of bees
Farmer demands province place moritorium on neonicotinoid

CBC News Posted: Aug 14, 2013 11:59 AM ET

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/beekeeper-says-pesticide-killing-millions-of-bees-1.1312508

[lovuian]

9. GMO and neonicotinoid go hand and hand

What is more devastating, while bee keepers blame the neonicotionids or “neonics” for the massive bee deaths and many countries in EU have banned neonicotionid class of pesticides, the US Department of Agriculture still has not banned the neonicotionoids manufactured by Bayer CropScience Inc.

Researchers claim that two of Bayer’s best-selling insecticides, Imidacloprid and Clothianidin, are able to get into pollen and nectar, and damage any beneficial insects, let’s take bees for an example. The marketing of these pesticides coincided with the high death rates in EU countries and the US.
from the article above

http://www.healthyfoodhouse.com/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/

evidentally the GMO crop was sprayed with neonicotinoids



in the mid-to-late 1990s, GE corn and neonicotinoid (imidacloprid) seed treatments both entered the market — the two go hand-in-hand, partly by design and partly by accident. Conditions for the marketing of both products were ripe due to a combination of factors:
regulatory pressures and insect resistance had pushed previous insecticide classes off the market, creating an opening for neonicotinoids to rapidly take over global marketshare;
patented seeds became legally defensible, and the pesticide industry gobbled up the global seed market; and
a variant of the corn rootworm outsmarted soy-corn rotations, driving an uptick in insecticide use around 1995-96.

Then, as if on cue, Monsanto introduced three different strains of patented, GE corn between 1997 and 2003 (RoundUp Ready, and two Bt–expressing variants aimed at controlling the European Corn Borer and corn root worm). Clothianidin entered the U.S. market under conditional registration in 2003, and in 2004 corn seed companies began marketing seeds treated with a 5X level of neonicotinoids (1.25 mg/seed vs. .25).


http://www.panna.org/blog/ge-corn-sick-honey-bees-whats-link

[RiverLover]

12. Thanks for explaining for people who obviously don't know.

I hope they bother to read it, and maybe care. This is "democratic underground".

[Logical]

16. Yes and it is not the jump to conclusions underground. nt

[MNBrewer]

21. Bees don't pollinate corn

[RiverLover]

23. duh

Bees are exposed to pesticides in the environment. Are you saying bees are never in the areas that corn is planted?

[MNBrewer]

33. That article is complete bunk

Anyone who doesn't understand that has no sense of scientific method.

[SomethingFishy]

57. They are dying from the pesticides according to the Snopes article

all the GMO lovers are using to "disprove" this.

What seems to be deadly to bees is that the neonicotinoid pesticides are coating corn seed and with the use of new air seeders, are blowing the pesticide dust into the air when planted.

So it's not the GMO corn itself it's the pesticides being used to protect the GMO corn.

That makes it all ok.

[roody]

10. Thanks Monsatan. nt

[RiverLover]

13. LOL

[Logical]

15. I will look forward to the peer reviewed paper in Nature. nt

[fadedrose]

17. GMO Foods

were introduced to grow crops to feed more people, but it ain't working out that well. A few weeks ago I saw a Simpsons episode that will go along way in introducing GMO's to the younger set. Homer was messed up, as usual.

But real bees isn't a joke. You can't propagate without bees, not just food crops, but trees in the woods, weeds that feed and protect birds and other critters...any seeds dropped will not sprout if wrongly tampered with.

They should do more testing on GMO's in smaller areas, and for longer periods of time. Countries all over the world depend on us for food and GMO's would increase our crops. Maybe that's why food prices are so high - we're selling it overseas and donating it to starving countries...(No. Korea is a starving country, maybe that's why they're getting friendlier)...

[Archae]

18. This article and the website is pure bullshit.

Headlines from their front page:

Sniffing Rosemary Can Increase Memory By 75%

Alkalize & Cleanse Your Body – The Most...

Vitamin D Proven More Effective Than Both Anti-Vir...

And, the article itself turns out to be bullshit, as Snopes has shown.

Got any more woo from these sites?

[fadedrose]

22. OH MY

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKIN SIMPSONS....

Please don't tell me they lied to me and the children... What about the children?

[fadedrose]

25. Seriously

I feed my orioles grape jelly daily when they arrive in Michigan in very early May. They love it. Come July, there has been in previous years a competition between the orioles, their babies, and the bees as to who will going to control the jelly feeder. When the orioles leave in September, the bees have not increased a lot, but the orioles have.

Maybe 3 years ago, the total of bees has gone down drastically in the early season, from maybe 30 or so, to 5 or 6, and some bees other than honey bees also come...

I used to chase them as much as I could but no longer do that. I leave it to the orioles to share and somehow they are managing.

Maybe it's not GMO foods or seeds, but insecticides which I don't use, but bees are endangered from my own experience with them.

[SidDithers]

48. DUers love their woo...

So don't be criticizing the excellent science found at healthyfoodhouse.com. Great science like:

"10 Reasons Why Flu Shots Are More Dangerous Than a Flu"

and

"Vaccination Detoxification – How To Remove Heavy Metals And Other Vaccine Toxins"



Sid

[RiverLover]

24. Herbicide and Insecticide Use on GMO Crops Skyrocketing While Pro-GMO Media Run Interference

Setting the record straight, Dr. Ramon J. Seidler, Ph.D., former Senior Scientist, Environmental Protection Agency, has recently published a well-researched article documenting the devastating facts, "Pesticide Use on Genetically Engineered Crops," in Environmental Working Group's online AgMag. Dr. Seidler's article cites and links recent scientific literature and media reports, and should be required reading for all journalists covering GMOs, as well as for citizens generally to understand why their right to know if food is genetically engineered is so important. The short discussion below summarizes the major points of his five-page article.

Over 99% of GMO acreage is engineered by chemical companies to tolerate heavy herbicide (glyphosate) use and/or produce insecticide (Bt) in every cell of every plant over the entire growing season. The result is massive selection pressure that has rapidly created pest resistance--the opposite of integrated pest management where judicious use of chemical controls is applied only as necessary. Predictably, just like overuse of antibiotics in confined factory farms has created resistant "supergerms" leading to animals being overdosed with ever more powerful antibiotics, we now have huge swaths of the country infested with "superweeds" and "superbugs" resistant to glyphosate and Bt, meaning more volume of more toxic pesticides are being applied.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bronner/herbicide-insecticide-use_b_5791304.html

Its amazing to me how many people buy into the corporate sponsored mainstream media spin on this.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

26. The Right will claim this is all nonsense....

Those bees all committed suicide.

[laundry_queen]

28. No no

It's a conspiracy on the part of Big Organic. They are killing the bees because they hate science. Pro-science Monsanto only wants to end world hunger! Not make billions in profit like Big organic!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

31. Yeah, and "organic" is all hippie owned, anti-business commie.

[Kennah]

30. Kirk Cameron said the bees that died were gay

[Spitfire of ATJ]

32. He obviously suffers from stinger envy.

[WillowTree]

34. Who counted them??

[randome]

38. Trained dolphins.

It took a while.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

[frazzled]

37. Snopes alert, and no, not GMO but possibly neonicotonoids may be cause

Scientists should be listened to, not "healthy food house." Even bee activists have dropped the GMO meme. (See http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/04/11/science-collapse-disorder-the-real-story-behind-neonics-and-mass-bee-deaths/ ) But even the case for neonics is unproven, though as a precautionary measure, their banning has been called for.

Please see:
http://www.snopes.com/food/tainted/gmobeedeaths.asp

[NuclearDem]

39. Healthyfoodhouse, NaturalNews...

...someone find out what GlobalResearch has to say on this and we'll have a bullshit trifecta.

[snooper2]

42. Is there a picture? The have smart phones in Canada right?

Oh, and you can put 2500 dead bees in a one foot square box-


So that means we would need 14,800 1' square boxes to hold that many bees...

[Orrex]

45. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard

Oh, and you can put 2500 dead bees in a one foot square box-


So that means we would need 14,800 1' square boxes to hold that many bees...

Canada uses the metric system, so they don't have one-foot-square boxes. Your argument is invalid, hoser!

[snooper2]

46. Shit, I already threw the dead bees out...I need more dead bees

to see how many I can fit in a 1 square meter cube

[Orrex]

47. Plant a few GMO crops and you'll have all the dead bees you need.

[Derek V]

44. Humans Killing Bees in Short Run

Humans Killing Themselve in Long Run.

[ffr]

49. That hasn't been proven yet. We need more studies.

Look, there's one from Forbes above. I prefer the Economist myself. More factual news with a twist of opinionated snarky sarcasm interjected in here and there that has no relevance to the subject covered.

[ffr]

50. Wait a minute! Only 121 different pesticides found in the dead bees?

That's all?

US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of bees, wax and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides are a key problem. - OrganicHealth.co

I think I have more pesticides in me than that. I'm still around. Pesticides good.

Wimpy bees!

[lovuian]

52. Geopolitics of Organic Food: Russia, China and France Ban GMOs

http://www.globalresearch.ca/geopolitics-of-organic-food-russia-china-and-france-ban-gmos/5380228

Russia’s stance against GMO is mirrored elsewhere, including in France where just recently Monsanto’s GM corn was banned and in China where the importing of US GM corn has been outlawed. The backlash against GMO has widespread appeal due to well-placed health and environmental concerns among increasingly informed populations. But the drive to push back against GMO in nations like Russia and China also has a geopolitical dimension.

Yes it does

[yewberry]

53. I think they're in my attic.

Finding their way into the living space one... bee... at... a... time.

Got my trusty badminton racket by my side. Lights on. My dog thinks I'm nuts.

[mike_c]

54. GMO connection debunked by Snopes, but that probably makes the story even more persuasive...

...to anti-science types. Now it's a hoax AND a cover up. Oh, wait....

[Generic Brad]

55. Who counted them all?

I would have gotten confused with my count around 1086.

[cherokeeprogressive]

58. How many does that leave? This is series!!!1