Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:45 PM

If you still think the decision of the Michael Brown grand jury was fair or just, you really owe it

to yourself to read the FBI witness statement, grand jury testimony and purported 'journal entry' of Witness #40 -- or maybe I should say "so-called Witness #40" -- in volume 15 of the transcript (starting at page 84 with the FBI statement and proceeding to the GJ testimony about 100 pages further on). Supposedly Witness #40 made a 'wrong turn' and ended up on Canfield just in time to see the events go down pretty much exactly as Wilson described them. Only problem is that the FBI got Witness #40 to admit he had lied, made racist statements and gone online to 'refresh' his memories of what he claimed he had witnessed. Oh yeah, and there was no way he could have gotten on to Canfield the way he claimed, probably because MapQuest didn't show that the road he claimed he used was physically blocked to vehicular traffic.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370504-grand-jury-volume-15.html

As you read it, remember that this testimony and journal were submitted to the Grand Jury as having some sort of official imprimatur, as having standing as evidence and eyewitness testimony. You cannot make this stuff up. I've referred to this Grand Jury as a 'kangaroo court' before and reading this utter tripe validates my initial assessment and amplifies it.

Here's how the journal entry, purportedly written on August 9 (the day Michael Brown was killed) but only brought to the attention of the Grand Jury the day the witness testified, begins:

Well I’m gonna take my random drive to Florissant. Need to understand the Black race better so I stop calling Blacks Niggers and start calling them People. Like dad always said you cant fear or hate an entire race cause of what one man did 40 yrs ago.

DA McCulloch and his staff of little Eichmanns allowed this obvious hoax to be submitted to the Grand Jury as evidence and eyewitness testimony. They allowed what they knew or should have known to be perjured testimony to be given to the GJ. So I want to know why the U.S. Dept. of Justice hasn't already indicted McCulloch and his staff for conspiracy to obstruct justice and for conspiracy to violate Michael Brown's civil rights.

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If you still think the decision of the Michael Brown grand jury was fair or just, you really owe it (Original post)	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	OP
Who thinks that? Everything about this investigation and presentation stinks.	NYC_SKP	Dec 2014	#1
Yes, but in this case, a fraud was knowingly perpetrated upon the court, thereby	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#2
What are the odds that any agency will investigate this?	NYC_SKP	Dec 2014	#3
The ABA, NBA and	marym625	Dec 2014	#6
The FBI warned this witness before he or she began giving their statement that it was	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#9
oh there was plenty of fraud.	robinlynne	Dec 2014	#56
There are plenty here defending it.	morningfog	Dec 2014	#31
There is much bullshit	marym625	Dec 2014	#4
Witness #40 should have never reached the grand jury's ears. My God, was anyone who	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#8
yep.	marym625	Dec 2014	#10
Witnesses such as this one who lied (it was a woman by the way) should be charged with perjury.	Nye Bevan	Dec 2014	#5
I've seen conflicting reports about the gender of the witness. The handwriting of the	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#7
Yet again you show how little you understand	morningfog	Dec 2014	#32
Sorry, but you are mistaken. Check out the grand jury docs, volume 15, starting on page 87.	Nye Bevan	Dec 2014	#35
I think you both are 'correct,' insofar as the FBI witness statement was presented to	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#43
that includes Darren Wilson eom	noiretextatique	Dec 2014	#39
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2014	#11
Welcome to DU	Recursion	Dec 2014	#12
and how would you like your pizza?	Terra Alta	Dec 2014	#13
LOL, that didn't take long.	lovemydog	Dec 2014	#17
I doubt you will be here very long, but for the record, Brown was not a 'criminal'	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#15
Witness # 40. Good nickname for racist trolls.	lovemydog	Dec 2014	#18
Good one. It can become our code word henceforth. - nt	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#20
That's some seriously racist bullshit.	lovemydog	Dec 2014	#16
Really sick, the lengths people will go to deny justice.	lovemydog	Dec 2014	#14
"Appoint a special prosecutor." I wouldnt oppose that as long as the goal is only	cstanleytech	Dec 2014	#21
The point is to have a prosecutor not beholden to local law enforcement. Presumably,	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#23
I disagree slightly there.	cstanleytech	Dec 2014	#25
I take your point, but would note that such a concern never stopped Archibald Cox (Watergate) nor	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#37
I also want the US Dept of Justice to indict McCulloch and his staff	mountain grammy	Dec 2014	#19
Yeah, as scummy a fellow as I think this killer cop Wilson was and is, he pales before	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#22
100% Agree with both of you	BrotherIvan	Dec 2014	#27
My thoughts exactly	BrotherIvan	Dec 2014	#29
And the plot thickens!	DMay	Dec 2014	#24
Posting links without explication is somewhat bad form. This links to a piece about	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#26
Would you be able to judge accurately whether a distance was 100 yards, 75 yards or 50 yards	Nye Bevan	Dec 2014	#36
Wow! "It is only possible to prove Michael Brown should have died if you are willing to lie!"	IdaBriggs	Dec 2014	#46
Thank you so much for getting the information out there	BrotherIvan	Dec 2014	#28
This may be the first time im my life that I've spent time with actual court	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#33
I have read Johnson's testimony and find it to be the only story which matches	BrotherIvan	Dec 2014	#40
But Witness #40 backs Wilson's version to	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#42
I have not read it, but the ADA was absolutely shameless in getting Wilson off	BrotherIvan	Dec 2014	#44
I don't have time this morning to read this part of the transcript.	logosoco	Dec 2014	#30
Trust me, the testimony of Witness #40 should be left for such a time as you have the	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#34
Okay, I have read this volumn, and it is more than troubling.	logosoco	Dec 2014	#54
Re: the Johnson gold bracelet. She admitted to the FBI that she did some post-hoc	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#55
I know, and I've been smacking down Facebook Klowns who cite it as evidence of Wilson's innocence	librechik	Dec 2014	#38
Anyone silly enough to cite Witness #40 to support justifiable homicide should be	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#41
Do store clerks in MO ask for ID on tobacco purchases like they do in other states? Is THAT what	NoJusticeNoPeace	Dec 2014	#45
Didn't you read the store keeper's testimony to the Grand Jury?	IdaBriggs	Dec 2014	#47
Exactly, wonder why.	NoJusticeNoPeace	Dec 2014	#48
I said from the very beginning that I assumed it was an ID issue.	SweetieD	Dec 2014	#49
If you can see him throw money then that is almost certainly what it was	NoJusticeNoPeace	Dec 2014	#50
What I've often wondered is, given that Mike Brown had lived with his grandmother	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#51
There may have been little time for Mike to explain to Dorian what the story was	NoJusticeNoPeace	Dec 2014	#52
That is about as concise an explanation as I've read thus far (and I think on the whole	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#53
good call	Enrique	Dec 2014	#57

Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:47 PM

NYC_SKP (68,644 posts)

1. Who thinks that? Everything about this investigation and presentation stinks.

They make shit up all the time to suit their objectives and agenda.

When they aren't destroying or tampering with evidence, they create it.

If you still think the decision of the Michael Brown grand jury was fair or just, you really owe it

1. Who thinks that? Everything about this investigation and presentation stinks.

2. Yes, but in this case, a fraud was knowingly perpetrated upon the court, thereby

3. What are the odds that any agency will investigate this?

6. The ABA, NBA and

9. The FBI warned this witness before he or she began giving their statement that it was

56. oh there was plenty of fraud.

31. There are plenty here defending it.

4. There is much bullshit

8. Witness #40 should have never reached the grand jury's ears. My God, was anyone who

10. yep.

5. Witnesses such as this one who lied (it was a woman by the way) should be charged with perjury.

7. I've seen conflicting reports about the gender of the witness. The handwriting of the

32. Yet again you show how little you understand

35. Sorry, but you are mistaken. Check out the grand jury docs, volume 15, starting on page 87.

43. I think you both are 'correct,' insofar as the FBI witness statement was presented to

39. that includes Darren Wilson eom

12. Welcome to DU

13. and how would you like your pizza?

17. LOL, that didn't take long.

15. I doubt you will be here very long, but for the record, Brown was not a 'criminal'

18. Witness # 40. Good nickname for racist trolls.

20. Good one. It can become our code word henceforth. - nt

16. That's some seriously racist bullshit.

14. Really sick, the lengths people will go to deny justice.

21. "Appoint a special prosecutor." I wouldnt oppose that as long as the goal is only

23. The point is to have a prosecutor not beholden to local law enforcement. Presumably,

25. I disagree slightly there.

37. I take your point, but would note that such a concern never stopped Archibald Cox (Watergate) nor

19. I also want the US Dept of Justice to indict McCulloch and his staff

22. Yeah, as scummy a fellow as I think this killer cop Wilson was and is, he pales before

27. 100% Agree with both of you

29. My thoughts exactly

24. And the plot thickens!

26. Posting links without explication is somewhat bad form. This links to a piece about

36. Would you be able to judge accurately whether a distance was 100 yards, 75 yards or 50 yards

46. Wow! "It is only possible to prove Michael Brown should have died if you are willing to lie!"

28. Thank you so much for getting the information out there

33. This may be the first time im my life that I've spent time with actual court

40. I have read Johnson's testimony and find it to be the only story which matches

42. But Witness #40 backs Wilson's version to

44. I have not read it, but the ADA was absolutely shameless in getting Wilson off

30. I don't have time this morning to read this part of the transcript.

34. Trust me, the testimony of Witness #40 should be left for such a time as you have the

54. Okay, I have read this volumn, and it is more than troubling.

55. Re: the Johnson gold bracelet. She admitted to the FBI that she did some post-hoc

38. I know, and I've been smacking down Facebook Klowns who cite it as evidence of Wilson's innocence

41. Anyone silly enough to cite Witness #40 to support justifiable homicide should be

45. Do store clerks in MO ask for ID on tobacco purchases like they do in other states? Is THAT what

47. Didn't you read the store keeper's testimony to the Grand Jury?

48. Exactly, wonder why.

49. I said from the very beginning that I assumed it was an ID issue.

50. If you can see him throw money then that is almost certainly what it was

51. What I've often wondered is, given that Mike Brown had lived with his grandmother

52. There may have been little time for Mike to explain to Dorian what the story was

53. That is about as concise an explanation as I've read thus far (and I think on the whole

57. good call