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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember the 3rd man on the podium with John Carlos and Tommie Smith at the 1968 Olympics:
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He was not well known outside of Australia, though, and not much considered on the world sprinting scene. He had not medaled at a major championship going into the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City. But he was running well at those Games, and he worked his way into the final. Then a series of strange and confusing events happened ... and these would mark the rest of his life.
The first was that Norman ran the race of his life. His time -- 20.06 seconds -- was the fastest he had ever run, the fastest he ever would run, and even now, 44 years later, stands as the Australian record.
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So Carlos and Smith went to Norman and asked him if he believed in human rights. Norman said yes. They asked him if he believed in God. Norman said yes. They told him what they intended to do on the stand and how they were sure that it was the most important thing they would do at the Olympics. Norman said four words that Carlos and Smith would never forget. He said, "I'll stand with you."
Carlos and Smith went to the medal podium wearing black socks. They had intended to also wear black gloves, but Carlos had left his pair behind. Norman suggested that one wear a black glove on his right hand, the other on his left. And that's what they did. The photo of John Carlos and Tommie Smith holding up one black gloved hand has become one of the most iconic in American history, and perhaps THE most iconic in Olympic history.
Peter Norman stands to the left, an unclear look on his face. What you cannot see in the photo is that Norman was wearing a badge that read: "Olympic Project For Human Rights," which he had borrowed from Paul Hoffman, a white member of the U.S. rowing team.
"I believe that every man is born equal and should be treated that way," Norman told reporters after the ceremony.
You probably know that all hell broke loose after that. The IOC immediately suspended Carlos and Smith from the U.S. team and expelled them from the Olympic Village. The two men received much abuse when they came home -- including death threats -- and were ostracized for a long while. But, like I say, you probably knew that.
What you may not have known -- what I did not know -- was that Peter Norman also went through his own personal turmoil after Mexico City. He was vaguely reprimanded by the Australian Olympic Committee for his support of Carlos and Smith -- according to The Guardian, Australia's chef de mission, Julius Patching, told Norman: "They're screaming out for your blood, so consider yourself severely reprimanded. Now, you got any tickets for the hockey today?"
But the press was not so accommodating. It tore Norman to shreds. Back home, Norman was banned from track for a couple of years. And even after he returned, though he was by far Australia's top sprinter and one of the best in the world, they did not send him to the Olympics in Munich four years later.
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Peter Norman died in 2006. He was 64 years old. A few weeks ago, the BBC showed footage of his funeral. They showed John Carlos and Tommie Smith carrying Peter Norman's casket.
Please read the rest:
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/36921250/the-forgotten-story-of-australian-olympian-peter-norman
John Carlos and Tommie Smith made a tremendously courageous and meaningful gesture.
Peter Norman should be remembered too.
malaise
(268,904 posts)Rec
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
Lochloosa
(16,063 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)Thanks for the reminder
kaiden
(1,314 posts)Poor Norman. Perhaps it is time for his own statute.
marble falls
(57,073 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts). . .and The Nation's sportswriter Dave Zirin has a book out titled The John Carlos Story
http://www.amazon.com/John-Carlos-Story-Sports-Changed/dp/1608461270/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417521970&sr=8-1&keywords=the+john+carlos+story
Both the website and the book provide further insights into Peter Norman's story.
Also, Dave Zirin's essay, Brother of the Fist, written back in 2006:
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2006-10-09-202/index.html
Here's Peter Norman with the OPHR button. . .
oasis
(49,372 posts)Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)There's a photo of Carlos and Smith and others carrying him, with the Chariots of Fire theme accompanying them.
brer cat
(24,556 posts)That is a very powerful and touching photo.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)That was beautiful.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)It made me cry, too.
calimary
(81,199 posts)So poignant and beautiful. Feels like there's something in my eye...
Thanks for posting this!!! And grits - thank you for posting the OP here! I did not know the rest of that story til you did so.
calimary
(81,199 posts)Glad you're here. Hard to see, indeed. I seem to be having the same problem.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)FSogol
(45,473 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)I was a student at the Univ of TX, Austin.
a kennedy
(29,644 posts)OMGosh, so moving, and I never heard this. Thank you for posting this.....
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)I shared it with my husband who replied... well, that does bring a tear to your eye. I may have had more than one tear.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)with the reverence I have for the other two in that iconic photo. thank you.
marble falls
(57,073 posts)a majorly huge thank you for posting this.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Thanks much for posting.
CanonRay
(14,098 posts)brer cat
(24,556 posts)I remember that moment well, but didn't really think about Peter Norman then or later. K&R
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)it's threads like this that make DU excellent.
Thanks so very much for posting.
Sid
WillyT
(72,631 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)Like most Americans my age (I was 18 that summer and a month away from bootcamp) I knew most of the story of Carlos and Smith. I knew nothing about Peter Norman.
AllyCat
(16,177 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Trailer for the Salute documentary
I couldnt find a source for the actual documentary but here is a link to the page.
And here is what looks like another documentary on it.
nevergiveup
(4,759 posts)I had no idea. Thanks so much for sharing this.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)at the air base in Dong Ha, very powerful moment and it still gives me goosebumps 46 years later.
Great thread.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)bookmarking for son who will really appreciate the info, if he does not already know.
Spazito
(50,269 posts)Thank you so much for posting this, it is very moving.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Another great day on DU where I learn something new everyday.
The link to Dave Zirin's website. It is now bookmarked to read regularly. He is one of my favorite writers.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I did not know about Norman. I appreciate you post. I am grateful for Norman. He showed a lot of courage.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)niyad
(113,246 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)In the resolution adopted, the House "acknowledges the bravery of Peter Norman in donning an Olympic Project for Human Rights badge on the podium, in solidarity with African-American athletes Tommie Smith and John Carlos, who gave the black power salute"; "belatedly recognises the powerful role that Peter Norman played in furthering racial equality"; and "apologises to Peter Norman for the treatment he received upon his return to Australia, and the failure to fully recognise his inspirational role before his untimely death in 2006."
from "Votes and Proceedings" for 11 October 2012 (scroll down to Item 15 on page 1873)
MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)If you're serious about standing up for the rights of all people, including people of color, then you can't half ass it. You may have to suffer. just like Peter Norman.
There's no getting around it.
That is all.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)or backed down. I have great respect for him for that in addition to my initial respect.
MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)and not back down.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)and his career was over. Meanwhile hate speech is still protected.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)me. Great respect for Peter Norman.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)And to maintain that stand for decades, to maintain it through racist backlash. To wear it around your neck like an Olympic medal for the rest of your life.
Once again lessons barely understood at the time show us the proper way forward. This is how to get value from the pus bubble that is Ferguson Mo. Stand peacefully together for what is right in public and never back down.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)And I've always felt a kinship with John Carlos and Tommie Smith. Now I also honor Peter Norman.
I was an 11 year old kid when I witnessed this. I remember thinking that it was important and a good thing. And I expected some people to "unhappy" about it but I never expected the backlash that Carlos and Smith would receive. It is an interesting study in our culture. And while they were stripped of their medals that picture has become an historic icon of the time. They are immortalized in it. And in my opinion they are brave young men standing up for their people. What could be more important than that?
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)I have my own problems, too, at 63. But I will never forget this, in 1968.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Thanks for this.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Everyone knows the courage it took for Carlos and Smith to do that on the podium, and I hope that I don't appear to be diminishing that in any way. But the third man on that podium had nothing to gain by that except to state his belief in human dignity.
The best part of the story for me was that the two American runners both eulogized Norman, and carried his coffin.
Also, kudos to whoever made the decision to allow them the two places that any number of Australians would have been proud to take. Their three lives were forever linked, and that person gave a great piece of history its due.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)I remember seeing the Olympics on TV in France in 1968 when I attended the American College in Paris. I remember being aware that Norman was supportive of the protest but I don't remember how he manifested that support.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Very moving.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I know Tommie Smith but I had no idea about Norman. Thanks so much for the post.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)it was sad how long it took Australia to realize what a fine human being he was
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)He has been one of my heroes for a long time.