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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:50 PM Nov 2014

Sexism, intellectual laziness, giddy gah gah, and sweetheart

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Electric Larry (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Many responses to my "Women are Sexist Pigs" thread from the other night fall under intellectual laziness. It's pretty clear that I understand the historical context, loyalsister. That you missed it is just lazy. People came to that thread with pre-fab responses. Minds already made up and loaded for bear.

So many of the intellectually lazy, loyalsister, got stuck on, "giddy gah gah" and "swooning". None of you cared about what one of the women said about the way they behaved, i.e., the gah gah.

I left soon after and almost immediately received a text from D who said she was sorry she made me feel uncomfortable and it was totally hypocritical of her and she won't do it again. She went on and said I was totally right, if it was reversed (5 men talking about a hot female coworker), each one of them would be freaking out.

So, based on her words, it was a big deal from the point of view of a woman.

Not a hostile environment. I couldn't wait for them to slip up! We are a tight group. They love me and I them. But because of the historical context, I have to be careful, moreso than them. You should have noticed, loyalsister. Lazy...

re: sweetheart
I was explaining this when I got locked out of the thread so it never got posted. "Sweetheart" is kind of a big deal in my field. The women work with older men who call them "Sweetheart" and "Sweetie". My coworkers are to correct them each time, saying something like, "My name is Kathleen, please address me by my name."

Other words on the no-no list:

Crazy: I can't believe that. That's totally crazy. (FAIL)
Nuts: You cannot be serious. That guy drives me nuts! (FAIL)

Sweetheart isn't really part of my vernacular, but I've been saying "crazy" and "nuts" for longer than they've been alive.

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Sexism, intellectual laziness, giddy gah gah, and sweetheart (Original Post) WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 OP
meh...FWIW, some context WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #1
There's a big difference between calling someone "Sweetheart" and "a sweetheart" cyberswede Nov 2014 #2
I didn't see that. And I indeed said "a sweetheart" WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #5
So, this is in fact a callout thread. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #3
What are the rules about that on DU? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #4
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #7
The rules are enforced by the DU mob WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #9
If loyalsister used a less offensive (?) word... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #6
upshot: don't quote someone and use their words against them WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #8
This is a shitty call out. You should delete it. n/t tammywammy Nov 2014 #10
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #11
It's nice that you're getting to use your new phrase. tammywammy Nov 2014 #13
FAIL. it is a big fucking deal. I'll prove it here in time WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #14
loyalsister probably agrees with me on that WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #12
Locking Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #15

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
2. There's a big difference between calling someone "Sweetheart" and "a sweetheart"
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
Nov 2014

If someone (male or female) were to say, "You did a good job on that, Sweetheart," it would be uncool. If someone (male or female) were to say, "Thanks for your help - you're such a sweetheart," that's NOT uncool.

Get it?

One of those examples would only be directed toward a woman; the other is gender-neutral.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
5. I didn't see that. And I indeed said "a sweetheart"
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:20 PM
Nov 2014

That helps, thanks

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
3. So, this is in fact a callout thread.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:10 PM
Nov 2014

You're calling loyalsister 'intellectually lazy'. This should go well.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. What are the rules about that on DU?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:16 PM
Nov 2014

Is it formally a no no under site rules, or just incredibly bad taste, and only done by total asshats?

Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #4)

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
9. The rules are enforced by the DU mob
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:33 PM
Nov 2014

The mob determines they'll keep posts of posters they like. Mob rule.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
6. If loyalsister used a less offensive (?) word...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:24 PM
Nov 2014

I could have used that. I'm just using her words.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
8. upshot: don't quote someone and use their words against them
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:30 PM
Nov 2014

Gottit!

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
10. This is a shitty call out. You should delete it. n/t
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:34 PM
Nov 2014

Response to tammywammy (Reply #10)

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
13. It's nice that you're getting to use your new phrase.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:40 PM
Nov 2014

I did read your stupid shitty OP. You're still complaining or is it boasting about catching women being sexist. Big fucking whoop. It was resolved, right? Yet, here you are bringing it up again. It's not shocking that women can be sexist. You rightfully called them out and they apologized. Move the fuck on.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
14. FAIL. it is a big fucking deal. I'll prove it here in time
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:43 PM
Nov 2014
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
12. loyalsister probably agrees with me on that
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:38 PM
Nov 2014

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. Locking
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:39 PM
Nov 2014

GD SOP prohibits "whining about DU". Thanks!

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